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29 minutes ago, berybert said:

Mate of mine left a bar in soi 11 not long ago. Got approached by an African, told him he wasn't interested. 

At the end of the road he was stopped by the cops and told they had seen him doing a deal with the African. 

Long story short, it cost him 40,000 baht.

Don't even think about stopping and talking to people you don't know.

 

you serious?

did he buy 'something' from the African?

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14 hours ago, bbi1 said:

How did you acquire a friend from the Royal Thai Police? Do you need to pay him a monthly bribe so he's available on call to tell other cops to back off or is it a free service?

You ‘acquire’ your friends and pay them to be your friends?

 

 

 

 

 

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No he didn't. You don't tell someone you are not interested then buy something off them.

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2 minutes ago, berybert said:

No he didn't. You don't tell someone you are not interested then buy something off them.

so what happened when he turned out his pockets and showed the cops he had nothing?

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4 minutes ago, berybert said:

No he didn't. You don't tell someone you are not interested then buy something off them.

Curious why he’d pay out 40,000 baht for just walking down the street and saying ‘no thanks’ to an African guy.

 

How could the BiB charge him for anything? Shakedowns exist, but only for those who have flirted with the regulations (I.e. the grey area of not carrying a passport etc and that’s not 40,000 baht fine!).

 

A 40,000 baht fine / bribe is for something serious.

 

That said: good advice, don’t talk to anyone you don’t know in similar circumstances.

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Just now, JHolmesJr said:

so what happened when he turned out his pockets and showed the cops he had nothing?

They work together, he never got the chance to prove he had nothing. 

40,000 baht or they would make it hard to stay in the country, being as he has a senior position at a decent company he didn't need the hassle.

So don't talk to people you don't know. 

I wasn't there so am not 100% sure what went on. So I will say no more 🙂

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2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Curious why he’d pay out 40,000 baht for just walking down the street and saying ‘no thanks’ to an African guy.

 

How could the BiB charge him for anything? Shakedowns exist, but only for those who have flirted with the regulations (I.e. the grey area of not carrying a passport etc and that’s not 40,000 baht fine!).

 

A 40,000 baht fine / bribe is for something serious.

 

That said: good advice, don’t talk to anyone you don’t know in similar circumstances.

Not carrying a passport is not a grey area, it is something you don't have to do.

 

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I have been pulled out of cabs on Sukhumvit at least 5 times in the past two years. Both at the checkpoint in front of the Emporium (btw, that has moved down closer to Soi 38 now), and the checkpoint on the other side just past EmQuartier. Each and every time I was asked to show the contents of my pockets, and a couple of questions, then sent on my way. Not one of these times have I been asked to produce my passport. I am always polite, but never let the officer put his hands in my pockets. A few have tried, and I am quite concerned about something being planted, so I immediately state that I will deal with emptying my pockets. This is the Thong Lo BIB, and their reputation is notorious! 

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17 minutes ago, berybert said:
21 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Curious why he’d pay out 40,000 baht for just walking down the street and saying ‘no thanks’ to an African guy.

 

How could the BiB charge him for anything? Shakedowns exist, but only for those who have flirted with the regulations (I.e. the grey area of not carrying a passport etc and that’s not 40,000 baht fine!).

 

A 40,000 baht fine / bribe is for something serious.

 

That said: good advice, don’t talk to anyone you don’t know in similar circumstances.

Not carrying a passport is not a grey area, it is something you don't have to do.

 

I actually agree with you. I have read the announcements from the Chief of Police (previous one a couple of years ago).

 

But really, good luck arguing that with a Policeman.....  so if a Policeman expects to see your passport, its become a ‘grey area’... 

Its the same for the IDP with a foreign licence - its not required if your licence is in English (language), but try telling that to a traffic policeman if stopped.

Understanding of the Thai law has been passed down from Policeman to Policeman, they work off what they have learned on the job rather than any legal text, hence the reason for the ‘sh$t show’...

 

I never carry my passport, but have copies on my phone. If that doesn’t work, I have the ‘phone a friend’ option. That said, I’ve been stopped once in the past 5 years or so, as such, this is not an issue I ever worry about. 

 

 

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On ‎11‎/‎14‎/‎2019 at 5:59 PM, moontang said:

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Load of BS, been there loads of times, never got stopped in a taxi, was in a bar with police in that area and he bought me a drink

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1 hour ago, berybert said:

Mate of mine left a bar in soi 11 not long ago. Got approached by an African, told him he wasn't interested. 

At the end of the road he was stopped by the cops and told they had seen him doing a deal with the African. 

Long story short, it cost him 40,000 baht.

Don't even think about stopping and talking to people you don't know.

I was in Kuta, Bali a few years back. At night if you are walking around you are constantly approached by people trying to sell you drugs. I keep walking. I was reading the book “Snowing in Bali” about drug smuggling ... apparently some of these guys are paid by the police to set up tourists. Once you do the deal you get arrested at the next corner and then you’re paying to get released, and if you fight it and higher up people get involved so does the amount you have to pay. 

 

Let’s hope Thailand is not going the same way.

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i lived there for a couple years, walked by there daily at all hours. never once was stopped by police. was always on foot.

 

i think your overplaying the risks of being stopped as a pedestrian. traffic nets are a different animal.

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16 hours ago, bbi1 said:

How did you acquire a friend from the Royal Thai Police? Do you need to pay him a monthly bribe so he's available on call to tell other cops to back off or is it a free service?

 

he just has very smart friends from RTP and immigration, yes you got it, the smart kind that doesn't exist !!!

 

 

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1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

You ‘acquire’ your friends and pay them to be your friends?

 

 

 

 

 

 

maybe we have too much face to have any of these ones as "friends"

 

555

 

 

 

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