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Should you take supplements?

by Monique Jhingon

 

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Probably, yes. Unless you live in a pollution free environment with rich soil and clean spring water, eat a diverse, wholesome and nutrient dense organic, local and seasonal diet, get plenty of sunshine and movement, have a stress free life, and you are in perfect health with a strong digestion and a well balanced microbiome. While these circumstances are technically possible, in reality they are hard to achieve.

 

The mismatch between our genetic requirements and our dietary habits, lifestyle and environmental factors has, for most of us, created a nutritional gap that may be tough to fill with diet lifestyle changes alone.

 

High levels of stress, existing health conditions, toxic exposure, a lifelong diet of refined foods, caffeine or alcohol can contribute to a higher demand for certain nutrients. A compromised digestion or an imbalanced microbiome can interfere with your ability to absorb nutrients. On the supply side: food these days has less nutritional value as a result of depleted soil, food transportation and storage methods and modern farming practices. If this paints a sad picture (hang on, I will provide some answers!), it is too important to ignore. Nutritional deficiencies are not always immediately obvious. A shortage of nutrients may go under the radar for a long time even as it can have serious implications on longterm health and the risk for developing chronic illness:

 

In 2015, Bruce Ames, a brilliant US based scientist came up with the Triage theory, in which he proposes that the nutrients that we take in through our diet or otherwise are first directed towards metabolic functions that are critical to short-term survival and reproduction. What is left is then used for more longer-term health functions. This essentially means that when there is a shortage of nutrients, even if minor, your longterm health or longevity may suffer. In his interview with Rhonda Patrick, PhD, which you can find on Youtube, Bruce Ames uses vitamin K as an example to explain this: vitamin K plays an essential role in blood clotting, which is essential to stop the bleeding when you get a cut: an important survival mechanism. Another role of vitamin K involves calcium metabolism: in binding with excess calcium it prevents calcium from hardening the arterial walls thereby it can help to reduce the risk for heart disease.

 

Full Story: https://expatlifeinthailand.com/health-and-beauty/should-you-take-supplements/

 

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Over 70....some supplements, well one or two,  most definitely work a treat for me....makes me feel like a young guy:)))

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Who sponsered you for such rubbish?

Or where you copied that nonsense from? 😈😈😡

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On 11/15/2019 at 6:20 PM, nausea said:

Personally, I'm against it, unless there's an obvious medical need, lack of B12 or something. The problem is all these nutrients interact in ways we don't quite understand yet. Overloading on one can do more harm than good.

 

and taking big pharma chemical medication with an arm length of side effects is ok

 

tylenol or paracetamol stops your liver from detoxing <deleted> you eat/drink/smoke/pollution

 

is OTC and is one of the most bad things for your health

 

but no problem with that one, right ?

 

 

people should learn to read the side effects of any medication they take

 

and mostly, the side effects give more new problems , but hey, you can also go back to your MD for another pill of those created "effects"

 

if they would make people in our home country and THIS one pay out of pocket, maybe, just maybe their eyes would open a little bit...

 

but if it is for free, for thais or on social security (that someone is paying) that it seems ok and no need to use your brain

 

 

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21 hours ago, Oxx said:

Yet individuals who take vitamins and other supplements on average die younger than those who don't.  See, for example https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/1105975

you probably don't know that most medical journals get money from BIG PHARMA via advertising and most of the info is now corrupt ...  

 

one bad study about pill x,y,z  by an scientist and 10 other "positive" paid papers will come out

 

remember the 50.000 - 100.000 deaths caused by VIOXX

 

there is not 1 big pharma company that was not indited for fraud and false science and all made billions in fines, but that is part of the business plan ... pay 1,2,3 billion dollars fine while you make 10 billion profit per year

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6 hours ago, justin case said:

remember the 50.000 - 100.000 deaths caused by VIOXX

 

I don't, because it never happened.

 

And let's not forget that Vioxx is actually a great drug - so great that the US FDA advisory panel in 2005 voted for its return to the market, as did the Canadian panel who noted that the cardiovascular risks from it seemed to be no worse than those from ibuprofen (Advil).

 

https://money.cnn.com/2005/02/18/news/fortune500/merck/

https://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/07/11/11587.aspx

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On 11/16/2019 at 10:44 AM, Oxx said:

Yet individuals who take vitamins and other supplements on average die younger than those who don't.  See, for example https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/1105975

Hardly - this was a study of "older women" that used a self administered questionnaire (notoriously unreliable) to look for a correlation in post menopausal women to cancer & death. A slight risk MAY be attributed to some specific supplements - however please read the comment (conclusion) section, this clearly states the findings. What it DOES NOT state is that people who take vitamins or other supplements die younger than those who dont!

 

Your snapshot of this (hardly revelatory study) is nonsense - unless you did nor read or understand the findings. 

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On 11/17/2019 at 3:34 PM, Oxx said:

 

I don't, because it never happened.

 

And let's not forget that Vioxx is actually a great drug - so great that the US FDA advisory panel in 2005 voted for its return to the market, as did the Canadian panel who noted that the cardiovascular risks from it seemed to be no worse than those from ibuprofen (Advil).

 

https://money.cnn.com/2005/02/18/news/fortune500/merck/

https://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/07/11/11587.aspx

 

yes sorry, apparently it is 500.000

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=500.000+deaths+caused+by+VIOXX

 

ignorance is a bliss

 

lobby people should be outlawed

 

bribes corrupt everything, just look where you live

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On 11/19/2019 at 9:13 AM, eezergood said:

Hardly - this was a study of "older women" that used a self administered questionnaire (notoriously unreliable) to look for a correlation in post menopausal women to cancer & death. A slight risk MAY be attributed to some specific supplements - however please read the comment (conclusion) section, this clearly states the findings. What it DOES NOT state is that people who take vitamins or other supplements die younger than those who dont!

 

Your snapshot of this (hardly revelatory study) is nonsense - unless you did nor read or understand the findings. 

and in the US, doctors live less long than general public

 

next time you go see an MD, if he is fat, cola on desk

 

you should not take any health advise of those

 

specially they learned a whole wopping 4 hours in their 5-7 years study

 

health, prevention is not thought in those fancy places

 

what pill goes with what symptom is what they make money, big bucks, soft corruption

 

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Id wager most people replying to this thread are geriatric drinkers who have no idea about nutrition. 

 

On 11/15/2019 at 5:45 PM, snoop1130 said:

Probably, yes. Unless you live in a pollution free environment with rich soil and clean spring water, eat a diverse, wholesome and nutrient dense organic, local and seasonal diet, get plenty of sunshine and movement, have a stress free life, and you are in perfect health with a strong digestion and a well balanced microbiome.

 

Which is probably nobody. 

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Tapper beer, cheers extra, gin and tramadol are the ones I take, you need something to take the edge off amazing Thailand 😃 Seriously B12 which is very hard to find here and fish oil omega 3

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