Rambo Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 The UK's Department for Work and Pensions has confirmed savage cuts in UK State Pension will be effective from 6th April 2020. In a letter dated 14th October 2019 they have confirmed my State Pension will be cut by just over 40 GBP per week, (over 35% cut in my case) with the removal of Adult Dependency. This savage slashing of Pension may well affect my income level requirements for visa extension application as well as imposing further general hardship for me and so many already struggling to survive. Amidst all the current Election euphoria and sweeping promises it seems that Pensioners will be the ones paying a huge price. So on top of the scandalous frozen pension comes the swingeing pension cut....soon be nothing left to drain from us. How can this be allowed to happen ? Really surprised the UK media have not picked up the issue and posed some questions to the likes of Johnson and Corbyn....after all many pensioners do vote... Link to comment
roo860 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Do you mean an allowance for a dependant is being cut? Link to comment
baansgr Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Where is your wife/dependent living? You could apply for pension credit if you are elegible. Wasn't this first brought in ten years or so ago with next year the final stage. Link to comment
Grumpy John Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Think you should explain what this means "with the removal of Adult Dependency.". Link to comment
BobBKK Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 You don't mean a general cut right? I assume you mean just the 'adult dependency' allowance? Link to comment
Moonlover Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 This is a very alarmist topic header which, in practice, will only affect a small proportion of the pensionable population. My sympathies to those who are affected, including the O/P of course. But the basic state pension which most of draw is unaffected. Some info below. https://www.which.co.uk/news/2019/02/my-state-pension-was-slashed-by-815-a-year-why-thousands-could-face-state-pension-cuts/ Link to comment
fishtank Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 You knew about this around 8 years ago. At least you got it for a while. Some of us never did. Link to comment
Liverpudlian Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, Moonlover said: This is a very alarmist topic header which, in practice, will only affect a small proportion of the pensionable population. My sympathies to those who are affected, including the O/P of course. But the basic state pension which most of draw is unaffected. Some info below. https://www.which.co.uk/news/2019/02/my-state-pension-was-slashed-by-815-a-year-why-thousands-could-face-state-pension-cuts/ Cheers ! short / sweet / simples innit. Link to comment
Blue Muton Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 A very misleading headline, and why bring Corbyn into the mix, what input has he had in this decision? You also missed out this bit: When payments stop you may be eligible to apply for Pension Credit or Universal Credit. Link to comment
transam Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 As far as I understand it they are removing the wife allowance payment to pensioners who are married to women from outside the UK... This payment was stopped in 2010, and we were told it will be totally removed in 2020. Sadly I got shafted as I retired after 2010.. Folk who now get this allowance wife has a N.I. number, this number relates to the pensioner to get the payment and not to continue any payments to the wife, even after death. Last year a guy I know popped off, so I helped his Thai wife sort paperwork out and speak to pensions. She thought because she had a N.I. number they would carry on giving her cash. The lady had never been to the UK. Anyhooo, after filling in the forms they sent she got nothing. (As far as I am aware) Believe it or not, after doing a lot of work the lady doesn't talk to me anymore because she got no pension, she even came to my place to get on the phone to pensions to give her dosh, I told her no, they have already told me no payments, your N.I. number is to do with hubbies pension, not you.....???? Link to comment
wgdanson Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 43 minutes ago, transam said: The lady had never been to the UK So why does she think she is entitled to any money from UK. Link to comment
473geo Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, wgdanson said: So why does she think she is entitled to any money from UK. Could be she has heard of some Thai widow getting a spouse pension from a husbands private pension? Link to comment
Orton Rd Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Pensions are going up by 4% in April, not being cut Link to comment
steve187 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, transam said: As far as I understand it they are removing the wife allowance payment to pensioners who are married to women from outside the UK... This payment was stopped in 2010, and we were told it will be totally removed in 2020. Sadly I got shafted as I retired after 2010.. all dependents, not just living abroad Link to comment
bert bloggs Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 i lose 70 pounds a week ,my wife has a ni number ,as she lived in the UK for quite a few years . but i fear when i die over here she gets nothing ,luckily she does not have to worry ,but many wives i fear will. Link to comment
steve187 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 55 minutes ago, bert bloggs said: i lose 70 pounds a week ,my wife has a ni number ,as she lived in the UK for quite a few years . but i fear when i die over here she gets nothing ,luckily she does not have to worry ,but many wives i fear will. did she pay 10 years NI contributions Link to comment
transam Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 hours ago, 473geo said: Could be she has heard of some Thai widow getting a spouse pension from a husbands private pension? The lady in question does get money from his job pension, I sorted that, but she cannot understand why not from his state pension. She did not understand that she had never paid into the N.I. system, and in any case below the women retirement age of 65. Link to comment
transam Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 hours ago, wgdanson said: So why does she think she is entitled to any money from UK. I think some other nationalities pay out...The UK did at one time, I believe.. Link to comment
Henryford Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Orton Rd said: Pensions are going up by 4% in April, not being cut Not for people in Thailand !! Link to comment
wgdanson Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Orton Rd said: Pensions are going up by 4% in April, not being cut Not if you tell 'em you live in Thailand. Link to comment
Guderian Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Actually, the Conservatives are desperate to hang onto the grey vote so they won't do anything to imperil that, at least this side of a convincing election victory. Afterwards, who knows? Link to comment
ivor bigun Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 hours ago, steve187 said: did she pay 10 years NI contributions no not that long ,she only worked for about 4 years and mostly part time . Link to comment
steve187 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, ivor bigun said: no not that long ,she only worked for about 4 years and mostly part time . have you done a national insurance check, https://www.gov.uk/check-national-insurance-record Link to comment
DannyCarlton Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Henryford said: Not for people in Thailand !! Yes for this person in Thailand. Link to comment
DannyCarlton Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, wgdanson said: Not if you tell 'em you live in Thailand. They didn't ask me. Link to comment
ivor bigun Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, wgdanson said: Not if you tell 'em you live in Thailand. What ,some people never tell them ,? Link to comment
Pilotman Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 My pension is going up with CPI, ( i'm on a long holiday in Asia) not sure what the OP is talking about. It must be a benefit that is related to the OAP, but not part of the basic payment. No need to panic old folks , it would be ;political suicide for any of the normal payment to be reduced, rather it will always increase. Link to comment
ivor bigun Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, steve187 said: have you done a national insurance check, https://www.gov.uk/check-national-insurance-record thanks i shall do that . Link to comment
Pilotman Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, wgdanson said: Not if you tell 'em you live in Thailand. I don't live in Thailand, my Non O proves that fact , I'm just on holiday with my wife. Mind you, its rather long one, but I do return every 3 or 4 months to the UK for a week or 10 days Link to comment
scottiejohn Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: They didn't ask me. They asked for your 'residence' details when you provided your bank and residence details. This is along with a statement that says if you change your residence you must inform them. Link to comment
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