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10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Please post what an "income letter" looks like.

Google "Australian Statutory Declaration" to see the blank form.. When they did them, you just wrote "my name is fred smith I make 1 million baht a year" You signed it and the consulate stamped it.

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5 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Google "Australian Statutory Declaration" to see the blank form.. When they did them, you just wrote "my name is fred smith I make 1 million baht a year" You signed it and the consulate stamped it.

Great post... But, I think the person you replied to was just being pedantic about someone using the term "income letter" instead of using the actual term "Statutory Declaration". I don't believe he was really asking to see what an income letter looks like...

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3 minutes ago, BertM said:

Great post... But, I think the person you replied to was just being pedantic about someone using the term "income letter" instead of using the actual term "Statutory Declaration". I don't believe he was really asking to see what an income letter looks like...

I was not being pedantic. I was stating that it was a stat dec not an income letter. I am only relating what an official stated to me at au embassy. If she is wrong so be it. Her explanation... " stat dec is only for use WITHIN au" 

IF that's the case then cannot be provided for Thai imm purposes. She went on to say that the au embassy should never have been providing them. 

I'm only relating what I was told. BTW I had the impression she had been in job for some years and in fact had a trainee with her.

Aside from that I do not believe that embassies are equipped or qualified to check and verify incomes. 

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I, like any other UK tax payer living in Thailand, can download a statement of my monthly income and tax from the HMRC web site. Why can't the British consulate accept that as proof of my earnings? Or is that too simple?

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1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

I was not being pedantic. I was stating that it was a stat dec not an income letter. I am only relating what an official stated to me at au embassy. If she is wrong so be it. Her explanation... " stat dec is only for use WITHIN au" 

IF that's the case then cannot be provided for Thai imm purposes. She went on to say that the au embassy should never have been providing them. 

I'm only relating what I was told. BTW I had the impression she had been in job for some years and in fact had a trainee with her.

Aside from that I do not believe that embassies are equipped or qualified to check and verify incomes. 

You are simply trying to distract. Please, stop it. The title of the topic addresses "income letters. The reply from the British embassy specifically stated "income letters." When discussing the actions related to all three embassies, I maintained the use of "income letters," although I used to receive an "affidavit" from the US embassy. Using the term "income letters" is apparently easy for everyone in this topic to understand, except for you.

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Just now, Surasak said:

I, like any other UK tax payer living in Thailand, can download a statement of my monthly income and tax from the HMRC web site. Why can't the British consulate accept that as proof of my earnings? Or is that too simple?

They always did accept that. Why they won't do it now? Go figure.

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1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

At the original meeting of embassy staff and immigration, where it was announced that verification would be required, I believe that it was primarily aimed at the US Embassy and possibly the Australian Embassy who didn't carry out any real verification. The British Embassy was never their target.

As the British Embassy was downsizing in both accomodation and staff, it's my firm belief that the British Embassy used the Thai Immigration announcement as an excuse to cease the letters. This is born out by the fact that a number of other embassies, who use the same verification process as the British Embassy did, continue to produce their letters to this day with zero comebacks from Thai Immigration.

Exactly. Though I think that what appears to be a dislike by the Thai authorities for english speaking nationals may have had something to do with it. After all, there does appear to be other embassies still relying on stat decs. 

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1 minute ago, zydeco said:

You are simply trying to distract. Please, stop it. The title of the topic addresses "income letters. The reply from the British embassy specifically stated "income letters." When discussing the actions related to all three embassies, I maintained the use of "income letters," although I used to receive an "affidavit" from the US embassy. Using the term "income letters" is apparently easy for everyone in this topic to understand, except for you.

So USA provides "affidavit".

AU used to provide " stat dec". That's 2 out of 3.

I'm still interested to see what an "income letter" looks like. Previous poster stating that UK provided income letter. Point is none verify the income. Main reason is they cannot.

Again as I pointed out the embassy staffer told me that au stat decs cannot be used outside of au. Pretty good reason to stop providing them for use with Thai imm.

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2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

So USA provides "affidavit".

AU used to provide " stat dec". That's 2 out of 3.

I'm still interested to see what an "income letter" looks like. Previous poster stating that UK provided income letter. Point is none verify the income. Main reason is they cannot.

Again as I pointed out the embassy staffer told me that au stat decs cannot be used outside of au. Pretty good reason to stop providing them for use with Thai imm.

British Embassy income letters were verified. US affidavits and Aus stat decs weren't.

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