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On 11/16/2019 at 6:08 PM, Tayaout said:

I've been following his channel for a while. The situation looks worse in China compared to Thailand. 

 

Same as TM30, same as applying for marriage extension.

Was in China for two weeks in 2017, nobody followed me anywhere, wandered around all over the place, made all my hotel bookings on Booking.com. Flight from Chiang Mai to Changsha, I was the only foreigner on the plane, at the airport stamp, stamp through, no questions, no interest in me.

Hotel check ins was just reception taking a photo of my passport on their smartphone. No police turned up, and I was in a very rural area with no foreigners and then a big city with no foreigners.

Got lost at the end of my trip, couldn't find the bus stop, took me ages to find a policeman to ask, when I did he was very helpful.

 

Vietnam is the same for home visits for foreign residents, this is normal for Asia.

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Hi guys,   Just watched this very interesting video by an ex-pat who lived in China for many years before leaving to go and live in the USA because of worsening hassles. A lot of things that

On the other hand, he still has a good looking woman in his bed every night, which he probably wouldn't have managed in his home country. We're all here for the cheap and available slim and attractive

What I am concerned about is that the Thai government is getting their ideas (or orders) from the Chinese, particularly the anti-Western sentiment he alludes to.

@BritManToo Tourist experience is different than expat. Best example is the thai expat complaining all the time about issues tourist never have. On top of that Serpentza and his friends make YouTube videos about China and it sure does attract attention of such kind of government. 

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I've only been here 3 years but I see the parallels to life in Thailand as pretty weak.

 

The extent that Thailand requires alien tracking seems more similar to most western countries now than to China. There is a considerable amount of surveillance in America and Britain now too.

 

I must state outright that I'm not a fan of China in any regard whatsoever. A 6 hour layover in Shanghai convinced me to never enter the country again. I have zero desire to see it from the inside since what I see from the outside is abhorrent enough.

 

I am not at all convinced that China is pulling the strings of the Thai government. Being eager to separate Chinese visitors from their money is simply pragmatic.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Tayaout said:

@BritManToo Tourist experience is different than expat. Best example is the thai expat complaining all the time about issues tourist never have. On top of that Serpentza and his friends make YouTube videos about China and it sure does attract attention of such kind of government. 

That is a fact.

 

People in the west bang on about freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. The fact is, you can say what you want in China, but the minute you try and form a mob to campaign for support for your cause, the nasty rises up your neck. Assembly, 200 dancing grannies can get together to do their dance/exercise sessions daily and no-one bats an eyelid, but if they had a motive and a microphone, there would be a 'presence' with minimal delay.

 

Maybe what this chap has forgotten is that Youtube may be blocked in China, but it's by no means unavailable and he's attracting attention as you say. Not wise.

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26 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

you joking, right? we all know your alliances, please, don't post misleading information

No I am not joking. A superficial scan of Weibo for instance will show you multi-thousands of dissenting comments.

 

However if your comment gets reposted more than 500 times, you will be asked to take it down, not by the authorities but by Weibo itself. I wouldn't for one second say that Weibo aren't 'following orders,' but that's the reality. Like I said, say what you like, the individual is not seen as a threat, a mob is.

 

Now you tell us all your reality, seeing as you know better?

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Out in rural Thailand the nature of Thai people always draws my admiration.

No matter if they work hard, live on little, they take everything the world and his wife throw at them, and on a daily basis came out ok, often still managing to raise a smile, supported by community spirit. Taking things as they are now, today, and dealing with it.

 

Perhaps more 'visitors' to Thailand would benefit by adapting this strategy

 

The past is gone, the future who can know.

 

 

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On 11/16/2019 at 5:52 PM, BritManToo said:

On the other hand, he still has a good looking woman in his bed every night, which he probably wouldn't have managed in his home country. We're all here for the cheap and available slim and attractive women, really no point in denying it, nothing else really matters.

Your post was sarcasm.. Right? If not.. Then your absolutely wrong. Many of us.. Men.. Here, didn't have tiny girls in our minds alluring us here. Give me a curvy woman any day or night... and with some class and culture. 

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On 11/16/2019 at 10:13 PM, madmen said:

Your not allowed to say that here. The pathetic bashers will come after you 😀

Interested comment. Why would anyone's negative feelings about any topic about thailand be viewed by you as "pathetic"? Tell me... 

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3 hours ago, Traubert said:

Maybe what this chap has forgotten is that Youtube may be blocked in China, but it's by no means unavailable and he's attracting attention as you say. Not wise.

He has relocated to the USA, as I would have done in his situation. A lot of his videos attracted negative attention from Chinese people, especially the one asking which province has the most attractive girls.

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30 minutes ago, SteveK said:

He has relocated to the USA, as I would have done in his situation. A lot of his videos attracted negative attention from Chinese people, especially the one asking which province has the most attractive girls.

Yeah, they can get very sensitive about that sort of thing. Possibly better to flee before he met some local justice.

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He also has a channel with a friend where they are travelling on motorbike through China.

 

In the channel you showed us, he is always complaining, nearly about everything. 2 Grab drivers in different cities raped 2 women and he made a big story about it. He always forgets that the country has 1.6 mio. people. Now he is living in the "safe" US and I am sure that in this country with less than 400 mio. citizens Grab drivers also rape women from time to time. 

 

I have heard that he is financed from Falun Gong.

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On 11/17/2019 at 10:01 PM, holy cow cm said:

Vietnam is no way like or no way even near China. Where and the heck did you dream that up?

 

Of course it is.

 

They even kidnap their own in europe: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44958530

 

They silence dissidents the same way china does: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/digital-dictatorship-vietnam-seeks-silence-dissidents-181115062123198.html

 

 

 

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A consequence of this is that unlike China, Vietnam can only block online content after it has been put up – thus, many bloggers are beaten up after posting anti-government material as a form of physical intimidation,[88] or imprisoning people for their online posts.[89] An estimated 200 activists and bloggers are imprisoned for criticising the government on the Internet.[90] In 2016, the government detained Nguyen Ngoc Nhu Quynh, a blogger who criticized the government's reaction to a chemical dump by a Formosa Steel plant.[91] This is one of several cases of the Vietnamese government using vague national security laws to punish bloggers.[92] In August 2018, a Việt Tân member for Facebook posts which the government considered to be an attempt to overthrow the state.[93] In addition, the government is also known to hack the online accounts of Vietnamese bloggers and other Internet activists, report the Facebook pages of anti-government users as spam so the pages get taken down, or blackmail Internet activists with stolen personal information.[88] To better monitor articles which are posted online by local websites, the government-linked Vietnam Journalists Association launched dedicated software in 2017.[94] The Ministry of Information and Communications also commenced a software project to manage "misleading" information on the Internet.[94]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Vietnam#Press_censorship

 

They might lack the power china has, but they are in no way nicer people.

 

PS: Not saying Th is a posterchild, don't get me wrong. 

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22 hours ago, Traubert said:

No I am not joking. A superficial scan of Weibo for instance will show you multi-thousands of dissenting comments.

 

However if your comment gets reposted more than 500 times, you will be asked to take it down, not by the authorities but by Weibo itself. I wouldn't for one second say that Weibo aren't 'following orders,' but that's the reality. Like I said, say what you like, the individual is not seen as a threat, a mob is.

 

Now you tell us all your reality, seeing as you know better?

have you been arrested for making a comment about the government? maybe not because if you did, quite sure you will not be speaking/writing the way you are, please keep us informed, make a public comment about the government and be sure to post the outcome..... pathetic to comment anyone can speak free in China

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