webfact Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Govt to sell Bt5 billion bonds to public as ‘New Year’s gift’ By The Nation The government is issuing Bt20 bonds for sale to the public as a New Year gift for individuals and seniors in order to support the ageing society through higher returns, the Public Debt Management Office (PDMO) said. PDMO director-general Patricia Mongkhonvanit said that Bt5 billion worth of bonds will go on sale initially while another Bt15 billion will be government savings bond. “We’re ensuring that these New Year’s bonds secure high returns to convince more investors and promote a culture of savings,” Patricia said. She said the government will also raise another Bt5 billion from issue of bonds. The PDMO will closely monitor the bonds market where the interest has been on a downward trend, Patricia said, adding that the issue of bonds was aimed at motivating Thais to save more as bank savings rates in Thailand were quite low. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30378424 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-11-18 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 "come along, kiddies, help fill Santa's sack with money!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 The headline To sell then at the end says New year's gift, I always thought gifts was free, Why not give each household some bonds for free as a New year's gift now that would be giving. Only the rich can afford these gifts so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruntoid Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, bendejo said: "come along, kiddies, help fill Santa's sack with money!" They pay interest, unless the conspirators are suggesting the Thai government would default on them and all the consequences of that - which would take your paranoia to a whole new level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbyXNorway Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 New Year's gift to the government... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 'Tis the season to be jolly... where you're actually allowed to PAY for the GIFTS you receive. Also wondering what the government-guaranteed yield on a 20-baht bond is. 15%? 20%? That would make a whopping 3 to 4 baht profit per year. You'd need to purchase a major proportion of these 5 billion bonds in order to have any relevant financial benefit, something like 50,000 to 100,000 bonds at a total face value of between 1 and 2 million baht. And who among the truly needy does have that kind of money to spend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Sometimes it's difficult to drink coffee in the morning while reading such news.. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 The Thai Government merrily redefining the meaning of "gift" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith101 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Obviously very concerned about Saudi Arabia putting Aramco on the stock market next year and all the investors selling off all the Govt bonds to buy shares which could spell the downturn of the Thai baht , such a huge sell would be a big blow to the economy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 In Baht we trust.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realfunster Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Misterwhisper said: 'Tis the season to be jolly... where you're actually allowed to PAY for the GIFTS you receive. Also wondering what the government-guaranteed yield on a 20-baht bond is. 15%? 20%? That would make a whopping 3 to 4 baht profit per year. You'd need to purchase a major proportion of these 5 billion bonds in order to have any relevant financial benefit, something like 50,000 to 100,000 bonds at a total face value of between 1 and 2 million baht. And who among the truly needy does have that kind of money to spend? Well, you raise the valid point of inquiring as to what the actual coupon rate will be. Seems a bit silly to have this kind of press conference without at least an indication of a range or minimum expected interest rate doesn't it ! I do think your example is highly optimistic though my friend. A quick Google indicates current 5 year Thai Government bonds are around a 1.5% coupon rate. I guess that may add a few extra basis points on top for this 'incredible and once in a lifetime investment opportunity'. I suppose it betters the utterly pathetic bank interest rates but it's hardly going to generate 'wealth', especially when considering inflation, currently around 1% but forecast to creep upwards in coming years...would you really want to tie up your funds for a number of years at those rates ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyMan Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, kotsak said: Sometimes it's difficult to drink coffee in the morning while reading such news.. ???? It makes things go much easier for me when sitting on the toilet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 6 hours ago, webfact said: adding that the issue of bonds was aimed at motivating Thais to save more as bank savings rates in Thailand were quite low If bank savings rates were even somewhat reasonable, would that not motivate people to save more? Banks have become the epitome of greed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 What are the terms of the bonds? What interest rate? Tax free? What are the durations? Annual or semi annual payment of interest? Is there any sort of underlying bond insurance or is one just supposed to trust the government agency(s)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 And does this mean the Elite Thai will now bring back their foreign exchanges then to make more money? I do not see how this helps the common Prawit or Prawina or the government if they pay out more than they get.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, nev said: The headline To sell then at the end says New year's gift, I always thought gifts was free, Why not give each household some bonds for free as a New year's gift now that would be giving. Only the rich can afford these gifts so to speak. Money goes to money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot123 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I get far more from my Isa in the UK and I have full access to the money even my savings account pays similar or higher if I leave it and not spend it if the rates mentioned are carrect so I conclude this is of government benifit. One post I read made me laugh mmmm yes I do not think I would trust the Thai government to much because they have defaulted on loans before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, Scot123 said: the rates mentioned What rates were mentioned? I didn't see any. The article was extremely light on information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonhia Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Cracks are getting bigger. Digging deep into the bottom of the piggy bank? Money running out? No surpprise. A third world progressive country trying to keep up with and act as a 1st world country does not work. Thai Bonds! What, if anything, are / would they be really worth? The cost of living is high. Inflation creeping up. High unemployment. Baht is far too strong. Tourism is down. Violence is on the up. The country is run by a dictator. Education plus social care is appauling. Human rights violated! Etc... I for one would stay well clear of Thai bonds or investing in such a place. Paradise..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Will they be printed on soft tissue paper with the regular ink I usually get on a receipt from the shops. Scott is my brand of choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 From the goodness of their hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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