webfact Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Leaked Chinese government documents show details of Xinjiang clampdown - NYT FILE PHOTO: Imams and government officials pass under security cameras as they leave the Id Kah Mosque during a government organised trip in Kashgar, Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region, China, January 4, 2019. CHINA-XINJIANG/ REUTERS/Ben Blanchard BEIJING (Reuters) - A trove of leaked Chinese government documents reveals details of its clampdown on Uighurs and other Muslims in the country's western Xinjiang region under President Xi Jinping, the New York Times reported. United Nations experts and activists say at least 1 million Uighurs and members of other largely Muslim minority groups have been detained in camps in Xinjiang in a crackdown that has drawn condemnation from the United States and other countries. The documents, which the newspaper on Saturday said were leaked by "a member of the Chinese political establishment," show how Xi gave a series of internal speeches to officials during and after a 2014 visit to Xinjiang following a stabbing attack by Uighur militants at a train station that killed 31 people. The report said Xi called for an "all-out 'struggle against terrorism, infiltration, and separatism' using the 'organs of dictatorship,' and showing 'absolutely no mercy'." The documents show that the Chinese leadership's fears were heightened by terrorist attacks in other countries and the U.S. drawdown of troops from Afghanistan. It is unclear how the documents totalling 403 pages were gathered and selected, the newspaper said. Beijing denies any mistreatment of the Uighurs or others in Xinjiang, saying it is providing vocational training to help stamp out Islamic extremism and separatism and teach new skills. China's Foreign Ministry did not immediately respond to a faxed request for comment from Reuters on Sunday. The state-run Global Times newspaper said in an editorial on Monday that the report "lacks morality" and accused some in the West of being "eager to see Xinjiang engulfed in extreme violence and chaos". It said China had taken "decisive measures" in the region to ensure it did not become "another Republic of Chechnya". The documents show how officials were given talking points to explain to returning university students that their family members had been taken away for training, and how the programme faced pushback from some local officials, the report said. They also show that the internment camps expanded quickly after Chen Quanguo was appointed in August 2016 as the party boss of the region, the report said. Chen had taken a tough line to quell restiveness against Communist Party rule during his previous posting in Tibet. (Reporting by Tony Munroe; Additional reporting by David Stanway in Shanghai; Editing by Kim Coghill and Sam Holmes) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-11-18 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I saw a documentary recently on this made by ITV (UK): Undercover: Inside China’’s Digital Gulag There was a lot of footage showing the enormous amount of video surveillance going on in the area, using state-of-the-art facial recognition to track the population. The Uighur/Uyghur Muslims in North-west China are being held in concentration camps. There are estimated to be a million people. Some have escaped to the west, too scared to return to their own country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Strange world we live in, on a one hand the world is up in arms over the alleged Israeli treatment of the Palestinian people and at the same time are mum's the words on China locking up milion of ethnic chinese in internment camps and no one at the mighty UN dare to say a word, why? because this is China, and you don't dare to bereid and critise mighty China on it's appalling treatment of its citizens and foreigners... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Just the sort of country and leader you want to cooperate with and get closer to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, ezzra said: Strange world we live in, on a one hand the world is up in arms over the alleged Israeli treatment of the Palestinian people and at the same time are mum's the words on China locking up milion of ethnic chinese in internment camps and no one at the mighty UN dare to say a word, why? because this is China, and you don't dare to bereid and critise mighty China on it's appalling treatment of its citizens and foreigners... Israel's appalling treatment of the Palestinians is not alleged, it's fact, as is China's subjugation of huge elements of its own population. Only difference is the Palestinians have zero influence in the world whilst China is rapidly becoming the number one superpower so are not held to any meaningful account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 6 hours ago, bluesofa said: I saw a documentary recently on this made by ITV (UK): Undercover: Inside China’’s Digital Gulag There was a lot of footage showing the enormous amount of video surveillance going on in the area, using state-of-the-art facial recognition to track the population. The Uighur/Uyghur Muslims in North-west China are being held in concentration camps. There are estimated to be a million people. Some have escaped to the west, too scared to return to their own country. It’s prolific throughout China now-they have point system for each individual, and it will be a lockdown when they introduce their digital currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 An off-topic troll post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNXexpat Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Nobody gives a sh... if they can do business with China. Also the muslim countries are quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyiinthesky Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Victornoir said: The governance of a country of 1,400,000,000 is certainly not easy. That's no excuse for putting millions of innocent people in Nazi like concentration camps. It never was and never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, yuyiinthesky said: That's no excuse for putting millions of innocent people in Nazi like concentration camps. It never was and never will be. What is the similarity between Nazi extermination camps and the situation in Xinjiang? How many dead will do for a start, Mr Godwin. Have a look at videos of Hajj in Saudi Arabia and note the amount of people. It's approximately 2.6m. How is it even possible to house, feed and water that many people on an overnight decision? If you can educate me on the logistics of locking up millions of people in a knee jerk reaction I would be very interested. You could also check the western reports from the media that were allowed into the 'concentration camps' but that would bruise your prejudices so no doubt you wont bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Troll post removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Maybe one day leaked documents will be available on Xi's plan for the future of Hong Kong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 ... In the short Term - a self stocked off shore penal colony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, tifino said: ... In the short Term - a self stocked off shore penal colony... Like an enlarged Alcatraz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Burma Bill said: Like an enlarged Alcatraz? Or the sequel: - [Harry Potter and the prisoners of Taiwan] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyiinthesky Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 There is still hope, not all officials and party members in China agree with the mass detention and ethnic cleansing of Uighurs. Quote The leak "confirms in black and white, in the party's own words, its conscious and systematic extrajudicial mass internment of Muslims in Xinjiang," said James Leibold, an expert on ethnic relations in China and a professor at Melbourne's La Trobe University. The documents show that "there was resistance on a local level" with local officials who disagreed with the policy facing punishment or being purged, Leibold told AFP. Additionally, he said, the fact that the documents were leaked is "a significant indicator that there are many inside the party who think this is an unwise policy and wish to hold Xi Jinping and Chen Quanguo accountable." Quoted from https://www.dhakatribune.com/world/east-asia/2019/11/17/leaked-china-documents-reveal-no-mercy-to-uighurs Quote The documents also shed light on the party's punishment of one official, Wang Yongzhi, who was investigated from 2017 to 2018 for disobeying party orders. Wang released on his own initiative more than 7,000 people from camps in Xinjiang, and feared that "rounding up so many people would knowingly fan conflict and deepen resentment", according to a confession by Wang leaked to the Times. Poor guy, getting punished for doing what's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyiinthesky Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Maps show 500 suspected ‘re-education’ camps and prisons where China is locking up and torturing its Muslim minority: Source: https://www.businessinsider.sg/china-uighur-prison-camp-suspected-locations-maps-2019-11/?r=US&IR=T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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