Jump to content
BANGKOK
gdhm

Question: Replacement Vehicle No. Plate and legal Use of Vehicle whilst Plate on order.

Recommended Posts

Last Friday after returning to my Pickup parked at an out of town Supermarket Car park I immediately noticed  a supermarket trolley left at back of my Pickup. My wife removed it and I then immediately noticed my Rear Number plate was missing. We called a car park employee who looked at the empty plate fitting and just removed its cover plate revealing broken screw sockets. He asked how old the plate cover was. The plate retainer was same age as car 9 years. He said they would check cameras and later phoned my wife to say they saw my pickup drive in minus the rear plate (where I was parked there were no cameras). Although I cannot know for sure I still feel it was stolen at the car park, why else would there be a trolley conveniently hiding missing plate. Additionally the car park employee was able to just lift the retaining cover of the rear plate as it was just hanging in place. It is also it is reasonable to believe a retailer would prefer patrons not thinking/saying a vehicle plate was removed on their premises. I feel had it failed whilst i was driving that plate would certainly have fallen off together with the number plate.  🙂Anyway its all academic because I appreciate one parks their vehicles in Retailers car park at one own risk.

 

We got a Police report and my wife went to the 20 kms away LTD to ask for a new plate I gave her a signed copy of my passport Visa stamp and ID page, my Blue Vehicle registration book and my original passport. She went because I could not drive my pickup with no plate or LTD document and being massively overweight and not in great health tuk tuks or taxis would have been difficult. About 90 mins later she returned home advising they needed me to personally sign their request form for replacement rear pate and my signed passport page (*which included my handwritten request that I authorized my wife to act on my behalf was not considered adequately signed. They wanted me to sign ON each passport page image on the sheet. They also wanted to see and copy my wife's ID. All seems overkill to me but "rules is rules". My wife went back and later returned home after the second visit with a receipt for ฿105 for the Rear number plate which was stamped that we should phone tel no. XXXXXX after 90 days to see if plate is ready for collection. 

Has anybody else ever been told to get a replacement plate takes 90 days? It seems an astonishing time to make up a new plate.

My wife was told if my pickup is stopped by police just show them the LTD receipt ordering a replacement.

Has anybody else been told the payment receipt is adequate for the police if stopped?  I must admit I feel very uncomfortable driving for 90 days without a plate when, the whole purpose of having front and rear plate is for others to be able to ID my vehicle if necessary. I have to drive the vehicle every 16 days to recharge the battery (I do not often drive it nowadays at other times).

What about police cameras on certain roads checking speeds and traffic light jumping?

 

Am I allowed to use a handmade card and felt tip pen as a temp substitute rear number?  It would be better than nothing IMHO BUT I would not wish to be accused or charged for using a fake/unauthorized  plate.

 

Any input based upon experience or knowledge will be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks all.

 

Edited by gdhm
Correction

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks canthai55

Edited by gdhm

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't make a plate yourself, just stick to the issues receipt. No problems at all.

 

These days it will most likely be there in 30 days BTW.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, gdhm said:

 

 

Edited by canthai55

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks stevenl I see you concur with canthai55 and I will follow the speedy and useful advice of you both.

 

With a possible 90 day turnaround for a new plate I don't get the feeling the plate for ID purposes seems as a important to the authorities in Thailand as in many countries in the West, where a replacement would be in days.

I just hope I did lose my plate due to wear and tear of its container, and that it was not stolen, coz if stolen, one has to worry about the reason and whether it will be used for something illegal. Thankfully my wife kindly reported the loss to the Police within  1-2 hours of us realizing it was gone.

 

I assume by your 30 days comment stevenl that you feel the 90 days was more likely a very conservative estimate and that it would probably be a good idea for my wife to give DLT a call in about a month.

 

I do plan to do one thing differently, when I get my replacement plate and that is to silicone or glue bond the back of it to the new plate holder I need to buy. That way if the cover does come off, the plate will not fall out/off. Additionally, if there is an attempt to steal it will be more difficult and a slower task to remove it.  I must check out my front plate holder coz if the years and heat did cause the loss of the rear plate then the front must be very vulnerable and on borrowed time.

Kind regards

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

One check of that plate will show that it does not belong to the vehicle using it if it was stolen.

Copy of blue book to be carried in vehicle. This will show what plate the vehicle is registered to

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, gdhm said:

I have to drive the vehicle every 16 days to recharge the battery (I do not often drive it nowadays at other times).

What's the point of having the vehicle then. Were you at the supermarket just to charge the battery?

  • Like 2
  • Confused 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, canthai55 said:

One check of that plate will show that it does not belong to the vehicle using it if it was stolen.

Copy of blue book to be carried in vehicle. This will show what plate the vehicle is registered to

Yes that's true

Oh bye the way the email advice I got for your post #5 was so fast it arrived Pre Edit🤣

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
29 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

What's the point of having the vehicle then. Were you at the supermarket just to charge the battery?

Pretty close wgdanson. I do actually kill two birds with one stone. Give the motor a run and get some supplies.

When I got the pickup I used it a lot, but as I have got older, fatter and less healthy and to be honest bored with my local places to visit, I spend most of my time at home and on my PC. My wife has now passed her driving test and although I only drive the pickup if we go out (saves a lot of insurance premium with my full no claims discount and me as only named driver). My wife will use if I am not around (12 years older than her). It is also important for emergencies. Selling the pickup would IMO be silly as I would not get a good price and as I have mostly only used it around my city, it has done less kilometres since brand new 12½ years ago, than many do in a single year. There is no rust so to all intents and purposes its almost Brand new in may respects. Must admit currently it looks like it hasn't been cleaned or washed in all those years with all the dust on it :wink:.

 

I also have a motor scooter that I have not driven for well over a year. The bouncing on the roads triggered terrible sciatica which lasted 2-3 months and I have been too afraid to risk triggering that again. Normally I would have used that for in-city travel (unless needing to carry stuff) But now I rely on the Pickup only. My wife runs that to charge the battery. My stepson is now 16 years old so I think he will some take take over his mum's or my scooter.

Regards

Edited by gdhm

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, gdhm said:

The plate retainer was same age as car 9 years.

 

2 minutes ago, gdhm said:

since brand new 12½ years ago,

 

3 minutes ago, gdhm said:

and me as only named driver). My wife will use if I am not around 

Uninsured?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

Because Thais just leave their trolley where it was when they emptied it.

 

True and I know you are correct. On this occasion however, I parked away from busy rows in the car park (and there were a few spaces between the nearest cars and my pickup, because being very obese I park where I do not expect a car to park near me so I can get my door open wide enough for me to fit it. The trolley being behind my car I feel was there for the reason of making it look like a person (if seen) had arrived at his pickup and two mask any removal attempt.  I will in future park closer to the Supermarket entrance and where the is certainly more activity to be safer from potential mal-intents.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
34 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

 

 

Uninsured?

Of course not. I would never willingly allow my wife or step son (in the future) to drive uninsured or without a driving license.  My wife understands the importance of these and she and my stepson always wear  helmets when on a motor scooter whether as a passenger or in my wife's case the driver.  

 

The named driver I mentioned is for my Comprehensive Insurance cover on my pickup. It is in addition to the mandatory CMI on the vehicle. When I said if I am not around I mean if I am decease. If my wife was to use the pickup whilst I am alive I would get her name added to my Comprehensive policy. If I am dead she would have to apply for her own.

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 hours ago, canthai55 said:

One check of that plate will show that it does not belong to the vehicle using it if it was stolen.

Unless it's attached to a similar make/model of the same colour which is what someone wanting to use a false number plate would be looking for.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...