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Is there a list of pubs, bars,  hotels and resorts that are adult only? One resort in Pattaya is very clear: No kids no pets. Good on them. As with child free flights, I think they are a great idea. I

Exactly. But I am talking about excluding infants from adult places. You dont hang around in nurseries or infant schools. Its their space. Quite right too. Basically babies and infants who dont have l

Im not talking about sex venues. I mean flights, resorts, hotels, restaurants where adults can relax without ill behaved, screaming , screeching  crying kids imposing on adults. Bad parents tolerate b

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4 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

Going to a remote  location does not guarantee anti social parents with noisy kids wont be around. You are missing the point or being obtus. A hotel could have one wing for familes and one for non families. for example. Same with restaurants.

I am a city dweller. I should not be forced to travel to the outback, deserts, mountains or remote islands just to enjoy civilised surroundings free from kids and their attendant noise ane energy due to bad parenting. Let the noisy anti social families take their kids miles away! Adult spaces for adults. Family and kids spaces for kids. CHOICE for all.

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13 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

You are just being argumentative for the sake of it. You tell me to take medication because parents wont teach their children civilised behaviour and tolerance. You reject the idea of people unencumbered with children having their own space. You reject the idea of choice to meet the needs of people. Why do you seek to impose the noise, mess and squalor of anti social families on to me.  Designated areas,  zones, parts of restaurants, hotel etc can be calm zones that are child free. YOU will not be FORCED to use them unlike ME who is FORCED to suffer in silence as kids run riot  scream, cry thus dominating and taking over.

I think you had a sense of humor failure on the 'valium comment' !!!...  That said, I used to bring Phenergan (which is an Antihistamine) with me on flights, it makes kids drowsy. If I noticed my son show signs of becoming irritable I would administer a minor dose. Some parents think this is atrocious as there have been reports of parents 'over dosing' their kids with the same medication - again, its all about responsible parenting and being considerate of those around you. 

 

I am out 2-3 times per week in restaurants. My Son has always sat there quite happily, right from the very start he's never been allowed to leave the table (unless at a buffet and escorted by an adult). I have never been an a restaurant where kids run riot. I have been in Sunday brunches where excited kids are enjoying themselves, these restaurants are set up for kids with play areas, clowns, balloons etc... 

 

I don't take my child to 'high-end restaurants' out of respect for the other patrons - there are places where its acceptable to take kids, others where its less acceptable (i.e. usually those with a dress code), a sensible parent will know the difference. 

Places like Cocotte in Bangkok are ok for kids, but I'd draw a line on the time, i.e.  6-7:30pm is ok, after which time it becomes more of a 'couples' or 'Adults only' place... which is fine by my because our child (6yrs old) is in bed by 7:30pm on a school night and perhaps a little later on the weekend. 

 

I also agree that large hotels could have non-kids floors and even restaurants have no kids zones - I think that fair enough. 

 

I'm entertained by the manner in which you exaggerate that you are FORCED to use a restaurant which has kids running riot, screaming, crying, dominating and taking over !!!... It would appear that you are eating in the middle of a McDonalds Birthday party !!

 

Your argument is a valid one when presented with balance, but your hyperbolae expresses an extreme level of negative bias to the point your points are weakened by emotion and exaggeration rather than strengthened with an intelligent logic. 

 

Now, just because I'm am responding it does not mean I'm being 'argumentative for the sake of it' - this is a webform and as such designed for discussion. 

 

What does interest me is how you've become so 'anti children' have your experiences been so damaged by terrible behavior of kids nearby that the mere sight of kids, even if silent and well behaved, still upsets you such that you can't enjoy your meal?

 

Kids are usually not allowed to the rooftop bars and restaurants - or at least there is an age limit (5 I think), but then you'll suffer from other things which may frustrate: everyone taking selfies etc.

 

You are in a minority (dislikes kids) but there are scores of places to eat at (especially in Bangkok) where kids are generally not taken and those who do are from sufficiently well heeled parents that their behavior is generally more considerate of those around such that you wouldn't notice their presence - these places are usually fairly expensive. 

 

If you are looking for cheap eats without kids - well that's more tough, as any business model attracting mass customers but excluding a major proportion of the population is doomed for failure. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I think you had a sense of humor failure on the 'valium comment' !!!...  That said, I used to bring Phenergan (which is an Antihistamine) with me on flights, it makes kids drowsy. If I noticed my son show signs of becoming irritable I would administer a minor dose. Some parents think this is atrocious as there have been reports of parents 'over dosing' their kids with the same medication - again, its all about responsible parenting and being considerate of those around you. 

 

I am out 2-3 times per week in restaurants. My Son has always sat there quite happily, right from the very start he's never been allowed to leave the table (unless at a buffet and escorted by an adult). I have never been an a restaurant where kids run riot. I have been in Sunday brunches where excited kids are enjoying themselves, these restaurants are set up for kids with play areas, clowns, balloons etc... 

 

I don't take my child to 'high-end restaurants' out of respect for the other patrons - there are places where its acceptable to take kids, others where its less acceptable (i.e. usually those with a dress code), a sensible parent will know the difference. 

Places like Cocotte in Bangkok are ok for kids, but I'd draw a line on the time, i.e.  6-7:30pm is ok, after which time it becomes more of a 'couples' or 'Adults only' place... which is fine by my because our child (6yrs old) is in bed by 7:30pm on a school night and perhaps a little later on the weekend. 

 

I also agree that large hotels could have non-kids floors and even restaurants have no kids zones - I think that fair enough. 

 

I'm entertained by the manner in which you exaggerate that you are FORCED to use a restaurant which has kids running riot, screaming, crying, dominating and taking over !!!... It would appear that you are eating in the middle of a McDonalds Birthday party !!

 

Your argument is a valid one when presented with balance, but your hyperbolae expresses an extreme level of negative bias to the point your points are weakened by emotion and exaggeration rather than strengthened with an intelligent logic. 

 

Now, just because I'm am responding it does not mean I'm being 'argumentative for the sake of it' - this is a webform and as such designed for discussion. 

 

What does interest me is how you've become so 'anti children' have your experiences been so damaged by terrible behavior of kids nearby that the mere sight of kids, even if silent and well behaved, still upsets you such that you can't enjoy your meal?

 

Kids are usually not allowed to the rooftop bars and restaurants - or at least there is an age limit (5 I think), but then you'll suffer from other things which may frustrate: everyone taking selfies etc.

 

You are in a minority (dislikes kids) but there are scores of places to eat at (especially in Bangkok) where kids are generally not taken and those who do are from sufficiently well heeled parents that their behavior is generally more considerate of those around such that you wouldn't notice their presence - these places are usually fairly expensive. 

 

If you are looking for cheap eats without kids - well that's more tough, as any business model attracting mass customers but excluding a major proportion of the population is doomed for failure. 

 

 

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Enough! So you agree with me. Just say so briefly. Cut out the rest of the guff, the incorrect presumptions, deflections, tedious examples of your blamelessness, laboured expanations and please! No more explanations of your wacky sense of humour!

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On 11/20/2019 at 1:10 PM, Tayaout said:

I hope your parent kept you at home. 

No need to be sarky!

My parents didn't take me to restaurants- they left me with a baby sitter as it should be. Why do parents think they have a right to disrupt other people's enjoyment with their badly behaved offspring?

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15 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I'm entertained by the manner in which you exaggerate that you are FORCED to use a restaurant which has kids running riot, screaming, crying, dominating and taking over !!!... It would appear that you are eating in the middle of a McDonalds Birthday party !!

WRONG.

When I stayed in an hotel I was FORCED to use a particular restaurant as it was the only one for guests to have their paid for meals.

I was placed 

next to a family with screaming kids by stupid staff, and had to demand to be moved as far away from them as possible.

I suppose I could have looked for a restaurant outside the hotel, but why should I pay twice for meals?

15 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

What does interest me is how you've become so 'anti children' have your experiences been so damaged by terrible behavior of kids nearby that the mere sight of kids, even if silent and well behaved, still upsets you such that you can't enjoy your meal?

I chose not to have children, but well behaved children don't bother me. problem is parents now don't train their offspring to behave in public. It is of course the parent's fault that their children are ill behaved savages, but as nothing can be done about horrible children these days, the best to hope for is child free venues.

Only parents love THEIR children.

 

In Thailand children are not generally a problem. They don't get taken to restaurants except places like McDs, and are for the most part well behaved anyway. It's only western children that are horrible monsters in my experience.

 

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6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

WRONG.

When I stayed in an hotel I was FORCED to use a particular restaurant as it was the only one for guests to have their paid for meals.

I was placed 

next to a family with screaming kids by stupid staff, and had to demand to be moved as far away from them as possible.

I suppose I could have looked for a restaurant outside the hotel, but why should I pay twice for meals?

I chose not to have children, but well behaved children don't bother me. problem is parents now don't train their offspring to behave in public. It is of course the parent's fault that their children are ill behaved savages, but as nothing can be done about horrible children these days, the best to hope for is child free venues.

Only parents love THEIR children.

 

In Thailand children are not generally a problem. They don't get taken to restaurants except places like McDs, and are for the most part well behaved anyway. It's only western children that are horrible monsters in my experience.

 

I was on a cruise in Vietnam and a family of HiSo Burmese kids ran riot.  Spoit rotten, entitled, and noisy. The adults did nothing. Spare the rod and spoil the child!

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And of course now we have the curse of 'Family Friendly ' Pubs and restaurants with a play area! So instead of using adult space as a way of teaching kids stillness,  quitness and adult trait they tell them adult relaxation space is kids play space. Its not. Thus I gave up on the excellent Steak house in Thapraya because of whinging kids, shrieking and crying actually being encouraged!

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11 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

I was on a cruise in Vietnam and a family of HiSo Burmese kids ran riot.  Spoit rotten, entitled, and noisy. The adults did nothing. Spare the rod and spoil the child!

Probably true in Thailand as well, but I don't frequent places where hisos go.

I think you will find that rich people don't bring their children up. It's left to nannys that can't discipline them. Same problem in Saudi. 

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37 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Probably true in Thailand as well, but I don't frequent places where hisos go.

I think you will find that rich people don't bring their children up. It's left to nannys that can't discipline them. Same problem in Saudi. 

On a cruise in Vietnam its not possible to vet your fellow travellers in advance. They usually reflect the hotel guest demographic. Of the 20 people on the cruise the family were the only badly behaved people. It included backpackers,  Americans,  Indians,  elderly Singaporeans etc.  Horrible kids, arrogant parents.

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And worst case are ex-bar-girls who bring their kids to the bars where they used to work and show them to everyone. Isn't he such a cute boy? NO!

And obviously the staff, who think they own the place, forget all the paying customers and play with the kids. How lovely. Uag

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1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And worst case are ex-bar-girls who bring their kids to the bars where they used to work and show them to everyone. Isn't he such a cute boy? NO!

And obviously the staff, who think they own the place, forget all the paying customers and play with the kids. How lovely. Uag

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Oh I dont mind that. The girls love it. Bars are allready noisy anyway. Its not fun for me but it doesnt bother me. I hate sport and Hip hop in bars

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13 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

Oh I dont mind that. The girls love it. Bars are allready noisy anyway. Its not fun for me but it doesnt bother me. I hate sport and Hip hop in bars

I don't go anywhere that plays sport on a tv I can see, though so long as I can't see it OK, but I refuse to spend money anywhere that plays hip hop or rap as I can't ignore it.

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