Sticky Wicket Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, steven100 said: did he expect breakfast in bed .... now he's crying foul and expects to get paid and everyone feel sorry for him. Do you really expect to die from committing a civil offence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailbreeze Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 50 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Wow. You sound like a hardcore right-wing Tommy Robinson supporter! Fortunately, you're in the minority. Yet you live in Thailand where the immigration laws are multiple times more strict and ultra right-wing? I never understand people who criticize Western nations who have rather lax immigration laws and throw a B**** fit over some sensible immigration policies for the benefit of the people yet have no problem living in countries and nar a word is spoken about those other countries like Thailand's immigration policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Sticky Wicket said: Do you really expect to die from committing a civil offence? ..... he went to prison because he committed an offence which was deemed illegal to do in Thailand. Did he die ... ? why do you think their are immigration rules & regulations, they are there because they have to be there, otherwise every criminal would be overstaying in Thailand for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said: Do you really expect to die from committing a civil offence? That might be right. Nobody should need to die, and then it has gone too far. However, the questions still stand. The ones you chosed to laugh at before, because you could not come up with an answer. ???? 35 minutes ago, Matzzon said: A civil matter? Would you like to elaborate on that? Is that according to your interpretation of the matter, western law or the laws of Thailand? Let´s hear this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Grumpy said: Why is his given name a Thai word? In Thai = egg; not to be confused with kwai = buffalo. Wayne Rooney called his son Kai; I think he meant kwai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said: These were not holiday makers but professional criminals who had bribed customs officials, paid off mafia traffickers, destroyed their ID documents and been given legal help then refused to leave. There is no comparison I think you'll find there's quite a close comparison. The two guys in the OP do not appear to be normal 'holiday makers' either. (according to a 5 minute google search) PS 'Kai' is a popular Indian name. http://www.indiachildnames.com/name.aspx?name=Kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Detainees from 47 countries..he must have done a head count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidJames Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, KhaoTan said: If IDC knows these gangsters are picking on certain citizens such as US citizens they need to at least hold them separately. The guy who died in his arms after being denied water and bullied by the gangs was 41 years old. Here is his obituary. RIP. Obituary of Rickey McDonald He was a guy who was educated and was loved, have some respect. I read that Obituary page put up by the funeral home & noticed that Issacs had posted asking onthere if Ricky had died in the prison which seems strange seeing as he stated in the Mirror newspaper that Ricky died in his arms. Also it's said that he spent months in there but then it goes on to say that he spent 5 days in police cells before going to court & then was sentanced to 9 days which make 2 weeks in total. Am I missing something? RIP Ricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Weird that Rickey McDonald's obituary has a post from Kai Isaacs 2 months ago asking if he died at the IDC. If he died in his arms as claimed in the story, surely he would have known that? Odd story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan747 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, zydeco said: What about the embassies in this story? 1) Where is the American Embassy? Did they actually allow the outright murder of an American citizen by Iranians in a Thai prison to go without investigation? 2) Did the British Embassy actually tell this guy to turn himself in, knowing he would be put in these conditions, rather than urging him to get the money for a flight out and paying the fine at an airport? Rickey McDonald-"RIP" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Matzzon said: That might be right. Nobody should need to die, and then it has gone too far. However, the questions still stand. The ones you chosed to laugh at before, because you could not come up with an answer. ???? Let´s hear this time. I'm sure you fully support 112 as well!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 And why would the race of the gang not be told? Who hates Americans that much? some black Muslim drug gang? Maybe they picked on him because of something he said or did or how he looked, but I am sure many Americans have been in there and did not get beaten because of being American. Just an odd story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Matzzon said: A civil matter? Would you like to elaborate on that? Is that according to your interpretation of the matter, western law or the laws of Thailand? Guess why you don't go to jail for overstaying, because it's not a criminal offence.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, ThomasThBKK said: Guess why you don't go to jail for overstaying, because it's not a criminal offence.... Yes, you do! The only thing is that they separate it, and put a name IDC instead. You are locked up and actually not even let out to see the day of light as normal prisoners. The only difference is that you are allowed to make calls at specific times and clear up your mess by yourself regarding money and ticket to pay and fly home. If you can´t. Bad luck, then you will stay locked up. If you ain´t call that jail, I will suggest you try it out for yourself. Actually many overstayers are also held locked up in police stations before they are finally transferred to IDC. That´s the part of jail that goes under the name arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said: I'm sure you fully support 112 as well!!! Still no answer. Just, sliding away by mentioning something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Orton Rd said: None i'd prefer the UK had a population not growing by a million every 3-4 years and the cities being swamped by an alien culture that is diametrically opposed to western values, that is not just bad policy, it's insanity OK Mr. Dramatic, the UK is not being swamped by alien cultures... bit like lower Sukhumvit maybe? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 What do you expect? Given a comfy bed, lobsters and wine inside the prison? You can't expect everything to be the same in western countries in Thailand and other countries in Asia. 1. Don't expect VIP treatment in prison. 2. Don't expect people to stop for you in a Zebra Crossing. 3. Don't expect cars to stop when lights go yellow. This list will grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, EricTh said: What do you expect? Given a comfy bed, lobsters and wine inside the prison? You can't expect everything to be the same in western countries in Thailand and other countries in Asia. 1. Don't expect VIP treatment in prison. 2. Don't expect people to stop for you in a Zebra Crossing. 3. Don't expect cars to stop when lights go yellow. This list will grow. DON'T advertise yourself as a tourist friendly country then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Orton Rd said: One that puts it's own people first, one that cares about border security and one that wants a sustainable (that word again) population growth? I prefer countries that just put people first. We are after all, all exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I'm surprised they don't do a 'special' holiday and funeral combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, EricTh said: What do you expect? Given a comfy bed, lobsters and wine inside the prison? You can't expect everything to be the same in western countries in Thailand and other countries in Asia. 1. Don't expect VIP treatment in prison. 2. Don't expect people to stop for you in a Zebra Crossing. 3. Don't expect cars to stop when lights go yellow. This list will grow. Well what I don't expect is to be murdered for an overstay and/or being American. If that is what happened in that jail, then the guards are as guilty as anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moontang Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Here is the obituary of "Rickey" the American. Notice someone named Kai Isaacs makes a post, two months ago, asking the family if Rick had died in the Bangkok IDC. https://milwardfuneral.com/obituaries/321-rickey-rick-eric-mcdonald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said: It would be crying shame if one of the holier than thou posters made a miscalculation and ended up in the monkey house! They are not in the IDC for 'miscalculating' though are they, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 4 hours ago, webfact said: British dad of two Kai Isaacs landed up in Bangkok's notorious International Detention Centre after overstaying his visa Okay,.... that's it. Boycott the land of TM 30...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogi100 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, jonclark said: Hardly surprising though. When I was born there were only 3.5 billion people on the planet, now there are 7.3 billion 40 odd years later, more people = more stuff / houses / demand for services. What do you suggest, selective genocide of those who are different? You're the only one who's suggested selective genocide but have tried unsuccessfully to accuse another of doing so. It was how the final solution got off the ground in Germany in 1941. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craighj Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Smells like a BS story to me, the guy is trying to cash in. Craighj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveling Jack Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Very sad indeed like i said before if you stay alone in the 3. World corruption you will be randomly exposed to the filthy system. And our own countries doing Nothing about it, whilst at the same time being sooooo worried about migrant rights or human wrights in every corner of the world. Why dont they start with enscouring their citizens rights abroad. This american was prop killed by muslims . Makes me puke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moontang Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said: Immediate character assassination of the victim, with minimal regard for the injustice upon him, which might happen any day to any one of us. The same regard given to the injustice upon Trayvon Martin, Oscar Grant, Michael Brown, and the Black Lives Matter movement which followed in the USA, pointing to the extreme, continued racism not enough people seem to care about in my country. Pants up, don't loot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
userabcd Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said: DON'T advertise yourself as a tourist friendly country then! People detained in the IDC are there for a reason of their own making. If they abide by the dates of the entry stamp and leave by the due exit date then they would have no problems at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, craighj said: Smells like a BS story to me, the guy is trying to cash in. Craighj Well, the death of the American isn't. That is real. Now, what should happen is an investigation of these allegations to see if they are accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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