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Duo-citizenship staying too many days in Thailand in the past 2 years

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Hi guys, i would like your input here, especially if you have 2 passports...

 

I have been staying in Thailand for the majority of my time in the past 14 months with maybe only 6 weeks away from the country. 

 

I mostly entered via bkk airports and enter by rotating my Canadian(visa-on-arrival) and then Taiwanese(tourist visa) passports. I haven't had any problems until last time entering donmueang the IO realized i have 2 passports and one i overstayed for about 2 hours.

 

The IO flagged me down. Asked a supervisor to pull me aside and entered my both passports info and input some sidenote into the system then he let me go without any warning or anything. 

 

Now my plan is to fly back to BKK next week with a tourist visa on my Canadian passport. Am i likely to run into trouble.

 

Both my passports show that i haven't stay in the country all that long but since the IO can see i have duo citizenship on the system am I likely to get denied entry as immigration seems to get stricter??

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Your question is a good one. keep us informed as to what happens. Can you please clarify one point. Are you just using visa exempt entries all the time, or are you entering with a visa?

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31 minutes ago, Lisztian420 said:

Am i likely to run into trouble.

Come back next week and find out!

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39 minutes ago, Lisztian420 said:

Both my passports show that i haven't stay in the country all that long but since the IO can see i have duo citizenship on the system am I likely to get denied entry as immigration seems to get stricter??

But, You just wrote that you stayed 14 month and only been away about 6 weeks during that time? Right?

You must understand that your passports are linked togheter by your indentity, face and fingerprints in the biometric system. That means it is what both your passports show togheter that your possible entry is going to be based on. Not what shows in one of the passports.

It doesn´t matter what passport you are going to use. There is going to be a big chance that you are taken aside and might be denied entry. On the other side, you might ask yourself a classic Clint Eastwood quote changed to fit Thai Immigration: Do you believe you have been staying to many days in the country, or is there one chance left? You have to ask yourself. Do you feel lucky, punk?

Just a joke full of coke 🙂 Good Luck, man.

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3 hours ago, BritTim said:

Your question is a good one. keep us informed as to what happens. Can you please clarify one point. Are you just using visa exempt entries all the time, or are you entering with a visa?

I use visa exempts for Canadian passport while with the Taiwanese i get SETVs to enter. Up until last August IO never gave me any problems except i overstayed with my Canadian passport by 2 hours when i left Thailand in August. So 2 weeks later when i returned(Aug), they asked me to show them my Canadian passport while i entered with SETV on my Taiwanese Passport.

 

They never harrassed me for having and entering with 2 alternate passports.

 

During that time, My Thai girlfriend was with me then, so she talked to the IO supervisor and he asked me for the ticket stub for the 2hr overstay trip then input something in Thai on the system and let me go shortly after. He never warned me on anything or wrote/stamped any warning on my passports.

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3 hours ago, Matzzon said:

But, You just wrote that you stayed 14 month and only been away about 6 weeks during that time? Right?

You must understand that your passports are linked togheter by your indentity, face and fingerprints in the biometric system. That means it is what both your passports show togheter that your possible entry is going to be based on. Not what shows in one of the passports.

It doesn´t matter what passport you are going to use. There is going to be a big chance that you are taken aside and might be denied entry. On the other side, you might ask yourself a classic Clint Eastwood quote changed to fit Thai Immigration: Do you believe you have been staying to many days in the country, or is there one chance left? You have to ask yourself. Do you feel lucky, punk?

Just a joke full of coke 🙂 Good Luck, man.

Thanks. I think i will need some good luck indeed. It was more like past 13 months and ~120 days 2019 on Canadian passport. I am planning to enter next week with the Canadian passport. This time I'm thinking about getting a SETV to increase my chances.

 

So if i do get pull-aside by the supervisor there's still a chance they will just gimme a warning and let me go?? Damn. I hope I am super lucky>.<

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19 minutes ago, Lisztian420 said:

So if i do get pull-aside by the supervisor there's still a chance they will just gimme a warning and let me go??

If you go with a SETV your chances get better, but truthfully they sound very slim. Yes, there is always a chance that they will let it slide with a warning. 🙂 

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35 minutes ago, Lisztian420 said:

I use visa exempts for Canadian passport while with the Taiwanese i get SETVs to enter. Up until last August IO never gave me any problems except i overstayed with my Canadian passport by 2 hours when i left Thailand in August. So 2 weeks later when i returned(Aug), they asked me to show them my Canadian passport while i entered with SETV on my Taiwanese Passport.

 

They never harrassed me for having and entering with 2 alternate passports.

 

During that time, My Thai girlfriend was with me then, so she talked to the IO supervisor and he asked me for the ticket stub for the 2hr overstay trip then input something in Thai on the system and let me go shortly after. He never warned me on anything or wrote/stamped any warning on my passports.

How did they realise that you have two passports? Have they fingerprinted you when entering and/or departing the airport yet and if so, which passport were you using when they fingerprinted you?

 

Especially interested in knowing this as you seem to be asian or asian-looking with also a Western passport. Want to know if they treat asians better who hold Western passports as opposed to all the reports we read of Westerners on Western passports having issues or being denied entry.

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50 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

How did they realise that you have two passports? Have they fingerprinted you when entering and/or departing the airport yet and if so, which passport were you using when they fingerprinted you?

 

Especially interested in knowing this as you seem to be asian or asian-looking with also a Western passport. Want to know if they treat asians better who hold Western passports as opposed to all the reports we read of Westerners on Western passports having issues or being denied entry.

I am not sure about this... I think it really depends on the individual IOs bias. I asked my Thai friends and they all seem super optimistic about my situation and they just say I look like a well-mannered, friendly & wealthy Chinese guy(although not wealthy) so should be fine, but truth is they don't think too much about this and why would they?! 

 

But they do say certain groups of people are more likely to get denied... 

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46 minutes ago, Lisztian420 said:

I am not sure about this... I think it really depends on the individual IOs bias. I asked my Thai friends and they all seem super optimistic about my situation and they just say I look like a well-mannered, friendly & wealthy Chinese guy(although not wealthy) so should be fine, but truth is they don't think too much about this and why would they?! 

 

But they do say certain groups of people are more likely to get denied... 

Did you get fingerprinted at all when entering or exiting Thailand? A few people on this forum have said that switching passports can't be done anymore but it seems you have managed to do it all fine until the last recent time where they matched your passports.

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6 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

Did you get fingerprinted at all when entering or exiting Thailand? A few people on this forum have said that switching passports can't be done anymore but it seems you have managed to do it all fine until the last recent time where they matched your passports.

Yes I did. Ever since the biometrics system was up and running everyone has to be scanned going in/out of Thailand. I have gone through it 5x already with  both passports.

 

So it seems this time I will definitely get pulled over and rather I would be denied or not really just depends on my luck?? 

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10 minutes ago, Lisztian420 said:

So it seems this time I will definitely get pulled over

So you are scared that you will be rejected entry and you want our input, if i understand correctly. Because "definitely, this time they will pull you over."

 

My only input to you, is that it's "dual", not duo.

 

But I am confident you are aware.

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Ur right! Nothing is definite. Scared, a little. Not gonna poop my pants though. But it would suck for sure...

 

On a different topic, let's say I was denied entry....Anyone know if it's ok to go to the lounge while waiting for return flight or I will have no choice but to stay in the detention room? 

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1 minute ago, Lisztian420 said:

On a different topic, let's say

I say, let's not say.

 

Thanks. Cheers.

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3 minutes ago, Lisztian420 said:

 

OK. You don't wanna talk about this. So just move on and ignore this thread. Thanks. 

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