enforced earlier start time

[4MyEgo 14,919]

On 11/19/2019 at 11:42 PM, teacher no name said:

I know it may sound a small matter, but legally can they do this, can it be imposed /enforced?

I am now retired, however when I was an employee or a contractor, and they wanted to bring their ego's into play as opposed to addressing the issues at hand with other employees/contractors, I would throw a wobbly, i.e. a sickie for 3 days and as an employee I would get paid, they would lose the income stream as they didn't have the resources to fill my absence, so it was a double loss for them.

 

When I was a contractor, we both were at a loss, but they soon learned to not include the sensitive one when making changes as he wasn't one to try and control further, leave him alone and he performs, a win/win try and use the whip and he will pull up quick smart.

 

I never gave a rats if anyone ever had the balls to sake me, bring it on was my attitude, and I do recall once a partner once said to me, if you don't do what your told, you might not have a position her anymore, I turned and said really, then through a wobbly for a week and started my work with my new employer, too easy, especially if you have funds to back you and are prepared to change employers.

 

Chuck a wobbly for 3 days, just do it........then turn up at 7.45am when you return and every day thereafter, fark the lot of them !!!

 

 

[chuang 1,298]

Have you ever been late...

[jingjai9 302]

Thais have a different relationship with work and contracts than the west. It is futile to try to use western standards when considering the spirit of a contract here in Thailand. I had a similar experience. A Filipino teacher at my school was abusing the system by calling in sick or coming to work late and doing so habitually. In response to this bad behavior, the management told us if we came to work even a minute late, 50 baht would be deducted for the first minute and up to 1000. We just nodded and waited for them to enforce it. Since the day we got the warning I have not heard about it again. Check out how closely and consistently the new rules are monitored and enforced. 

 

 

 

[onlycw 213]

On 11/19/2019 at 8:25 PM, PatOngo said:

How hard is it to get to work on time!

I misu nderstood a Thai colleague, instructing me to lie about the time (signing in). I wrote the correct time aand that spoilt it for the late-comers.

 

The OP hasn't said that he has been late. 

 

A few teachers who are late are not singled out. Instead, let's ALL be forced to come 45 minutes earlier?!? The PO'Or might think he is the Sun King, but the contrsacts prevail.

 

Just make sure you will never be late - and you should be okay.

 

The Directosd sometimes won't come in for days - having teachers bring & collect files at all hours. 

[PatOngo 44,790]

1 minute ago, onlycw said:

I misu nderstood a Thai colleague, instructing me to lie about the time (signing in). I wrote the correct time aand that spoilt it for the late-comers.

 

The OP hasn't said that he has been late. 

 

A few teachers who are late are not singled out. Instead, let's ALL be forced to come 45 minutes earlier?!? The PO'Or might think he is the Sun King, but the contrsacts prevail.

 

Just make sure you will never be late - and you should be okay.

 

The Directosd sometimes won't come in for days - having teachers bring & collect files at all hours. 

Are you an English teacher?

[Northman 16]

45 minutes extra? Say you make 1k baht an hour, that adds 750 baht to your daily salary. Sucks to wake up earlier but after a month that's at least 15k extra pay.

I wouldn't complain.

[kingofthemountain 5,239]

The OP seems to have disappeared

so we will probably never know how the things have evolved 

[jany123 1,711]

12 minutes ago, Northman said:

45 minutes extra? Say you make 1k baht an hour, that adds 750 baht to your daily salary. Sucks to wake up earlier but after a month that's at least 15k extra pay.

I wouldn't complain.

He says he’s not getting that 15 000 extra baht... so.... given that, would you now complain?

[Chazar 8,650]

On 11/19/2019 at 8:25 PM, PatOngo said:

How hard is it to get to work on time!

time for many Thais is very variable.

[Chazar 8,650]

On 11/25/2019 at 12:36 PM, PatOngo said:

Are you an English teacher?

maybe he is  just not a  typist

[Northman 16]

15 minutes ago, jany123 said:

He says he’s not getting that 15 000 extra baht... so.... given that, would you now complain?

 

I would be really surprised if I didn't get paid for time spent at work. If it ever happened I would issue a demand for the money to my employer, if they refused I would issue for their bankruptcy and the govt would pay me instead. Then again, I don't live in Thailand, workers' rights probably don't exist there.

[jany123 1,711]

8 minutes ago, Northman said:

 

I would be really surprised if I didn't get paid for time spent at work. If it ever happened I would issue a demand for the money to my employer, if they refused I would issue for their bankruptcy and the govt would pay me instead. Then again, I don't live in Thailand, workers' rights probably don't exist there.

Yes yes... but the poster was clear in that he was not being compensated for the extra time spent at work, so rather than stating you wouldn’t complain, what you really mean is that if in his position, you would scream your head off, all the way to court. Got it

[Scott 16,138]

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[Scott 16,138]

4 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

The OP seems to have disappeared

so we will probably never know how the things have evolved 

He has to be at work earlier, maybe he doesn't have time to post!!

 

[jaffas21 69]

Yes, the many posters are correct, we are supposed to finish at 5.15 and  keep getting reminded about it, the next day everyone clocks out at 5.05 anyway. Personally there is no evidence its 5.15, i think its our head being a bit funny.  I know a school where they deduct 2000 a month and if your leave early they take all the money, if you stay you get it back like you paid for you own 12 month contract, also october holidays are cancelled for two years there, imagine that and consider yourself lucky my friend. We used to have gate duty .. be there at 7am they would say .. but the thais would roll in from 7.30 .. they just wanted us there. btw the thais also get an october holiday. Of course all the foreigners are now from the phillipines cos they know if they treat a westerner like that he would be off two weeks later.