snoop1130 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Thanathorn, disputing verdict, says party will carry on By THE NATION Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit Disputing the Constitutional Court’s verdict against him on Wednesday (November 20), Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit, leader of the Future Forward Party, vowed to continue in his political career. “The court attached more weight to assumptions rather than to facts or evidence,” he told reporters after the court session. “It’s my observation that there was no resolution in the form of a judicial body’s decision, unlike other courts’ verdicts. “Moreover, the court mentioned Article 98 (3) of the Constitution, which prohibits politicians from holding shares in media companies that can influence public opinion. It did not say whether that article actually applied to V Luck Media and I,” he said, referring to his family-owned media business. Thanathorn said his party would carry on regardless of his status as an MP, which he called irrelevant in deliberations over whether the party should be dissolved. “FWP is a forever journey and I am still the party’s leader,” he said. The court ruled 7-2 that Thanathorn had failed to prove he’d signed over his shares in V Luck before he registered to run in the March election, contrary to the law. The court affirmed that he can no longer serve as an MP but it did not sentence him to jail for election fraud, as his supporters feared. Manop Keereepuwadol, the 53rd-named contender in Future Forward’s party-list quota, will assume Thanathorn’s seat in Parliament. Party spokesperson Pannika Wanich declared on Twitter, “Although MP status has been ended, Thanathorn is still the team leader ... Future Forward Party is preparing for censure debate on Prayut’s government in mid-December. Those who have evidence of government corruption and abuse of power can send it to [email protected].” Numerous people were at the court to offer Thanathorn moral support and foreign diplomats attended the session to hear the verdict. Observers have said the verdict could lead to Future Forward’s early demise, noting that other charges against him are still waiting to be tried in court. It’s also been claimed that 64 other members of Parliament held media-company shares when they registered for the election. Election Commission decisions in those cases are awaited. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30378561 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-11-20 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Any 1 surprised - anyone ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: The court ruled 7-2 that Thanathorn had failed to prove he’d signed over his shares in V Luck before he registered to run in the March election, contrary to the law. I always thought that the prosecutor must prove guilt, rather than the defence having to prove innocence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutz Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 55 minutes ago, chickenslegs said: I always thought that the prosecutor must prove guilt, rather than the defence having to prove innocence. Indeed, and I think they would have approached the case like that if the accused was a khon-dee pro junta member. (For instance: there is no evidence that General Piggy did not borrow those watches so...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suua Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Foreign observers were there.....that speaks volumes in support for this intelligent, forward thinking future of Thailand. Thai people, listen....the developed world knows the injustices that are going on in your country....it's in the news worldwide. Do not be scared of these military criminals ....you need to be stronger. Stand up for democracy...fight for it peacefully, and you will have it! The power of the people and the word is always stronger than the sword....it's been proved countless times, and will continue to be so always! Good luck good people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 If he got no votes or very few, this case would have not gotten any legs, proof that the election result was unsettling, (the military hiding in suits government) has now to decide how viciously they pursue the on coming ban from politics for Khun Thanathorn, removal of his ability to take part in the next election would seem the very basic pursuit, and have themselves a smug time that an opposition threat has been removed for the near term, I Seem to remember a story of Robert the Bruce, maybe it will take that determination for Khun Thanathorn to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessi Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 This proves that Corruption in Thailand is at the highest level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newatthis Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 11 hours ago, Suua said: 11 hours ago, Suua said: Stand up for democracy...fight for it peacefully, and you will have it! The power of the people and the word is always stronger than the sword....it's been proved countless times, and will continue to be so always! Good luck good people. Lovely words but they are wasted in this country. London to a brick pre-1932 is the future for this country and Thais will do nothing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Getting to point where people will be leaving on moral grounds, not just monetary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 12 hours ago, chickenslegs said: I always thought that the prosecutor must prove guilt, rather than the defence having to prove innocence. 2 hours ago, Jessi said: This proves that Corruption in Thailand is at the highest level. This shows how the “system” change after the army take over 5 years ago. And again after the “elections”. And who give the job to decide this case. My English is not enough to translate. If you not read thai, ask your thai friend to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 14 hours ago, chickenslegs said: I always thought that the prosecutor must prove guilt, rather than the defence having to prove innocence. It works both ways.... if you can provide evidence of innocence the prosecution folds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harada Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 This guy's downfall was being intelligent and threatening the military's access to the trough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 14 hours ago, chickenslegs said: I always thought that the prosecutor must prove guilt, rather than the defence having to prove innocence. But you are referring to a justice system where a decision is based on evidence. In comparison to Thai justice where the decision is made first then evidence used or ignored to justify the desired result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Sticky Wicket said: Getting to point where people will be leaving on moral grounds, not just monetary Bye bye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Baerboxer said: Bye bye! what is the relevance of saying 'bye bye'. Are you a child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 52 minutes ago, harada said: This guy's downfall was being intelligent and threatening the military's access to the trough. Nope. His downfall was, just like other hiso very rich billionaires, he probably thinks the laws and rules don't apply to him. He's above all that; they're just for the small people. Otherwise he'd have made sure the minions kept their focus on making sure everything was squeaky clean. And squeaky clean, whiter than white, and be seen to be so, it must be when you're not the one in power and a threat to those who are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbiology Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 15 hours ago, Suua said: Foreign observers were there.....that speaks volumes in support for this intelligent, forward thinking future of Thailand. Thai people, listen....the developed world knows the injustices that are going on in your country....it's in the news worldwide. Do not be scared of these military criminals ....you need to be stronger. Stand up for democracy...fight for it peacefully, and you will have it! The power of the people and the word is always stronger than the sword....it's been proved countless times, and will continue to be so always! Good luck good people. like 2010? sad sad Thailand. quiet afraid people bullied into submission. on many levels. You would have to fundamentally change Thai culture to get the kind of reaction needed. hence the pushing. I wont say anymore but it goes beyond government....all the way to lese majeste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brain150 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Interesting times ahead of us. Hong Kong coming to Bangkok ? ... seems like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Any posters like to comment on how the Junta has reduced corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessi Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Yinn said: This shows how the “system” change after the army take over 5 years ago. And again after the “elections”. And who give the job to decide this case. My English is not enough to translate. If you not read thai, ask your thai friend to explain. As usual Yin, I dont have a clue what you are talking about...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessi Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, Oziex1 said: Any posters like to comment on how the Junta has reduced corruption. Ask Prayut, he can make something up I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suua Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, briansbiology said: like 2010? sad sad Thailand. quiet afraid people bullied into submission. on many levels. You would have to fundamentally change Thai culture to get the kind of reaction needed. hence the pushing. I wont say anymore but it goes beyond government....all the way to lese majeste Perhaps the older generation, that was the past. Today the younger smartphone/internet enabled youth, where worldwide information is only seconds away, will be a different kettle of fish.....only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Baerboxer said: Nope. His downfall was, just like other hiso very rich billionaires, he probably thinks the laws and rules don't apply to him. He's above all that; they're just for the small people. Otherwise he'd have made sure the minions kept their focus on making sure everything was squeaky clean. And squeaky clean, whiter than white, and be seen to be so, it must be when you're not the one in power and a threat to those who are. Maybe. But, it's clear to me that if it wasn't the media shares they would have just come up with something else equally lame and ridiculous--like criticizing the junta on the internet. (WHAT???) They wanted him out and he's out--for now. But, 'be careful what you wish for' is likely going to bite them down the road. And, at present, the junta must be gnashing their collective teeth that he was just named to Time's Next 100 List for the World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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