snoop1130 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Conservatives to raise property purchase tax for non-UK residents FILE PHOTO: Britain's Prime Minister Boris Johnson campaigns in Mansfield, Britain, November 16, 2019. Frank Augstein/Pool via REUTERS LONDON (Reuters) - Foreign buyers of English properties will have to pay a levy of 3% of the purchase value under plans put forward by Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Conservatives on Friday, aimed at deterring wealthy investors from driving up house prices. The plans form part of the Conservative Party’s campaign to win a Dec. 12 election, which is heavily based around Johnson’s promise to deliver Brexit within months and move on to domestic issues like education, healthcare and policing. Successive British governments, including the last nine years of Conservative rule, have failed to alleviate a long-term housing shortage which has driven up property values and priced many working Britons out of buying their own home. The proposed reforms to Stamp Duty Land Tax - a levy on property purchases - would apply to companies and individuals who are not resident in Britain for tax purposes, and could raise up to 120 million pounds per year, the party said. London’s high property prices and a strong legal system have made it the destination of choice for foreign billionaires looking for a safe place to park their cash, attracting Russian and Middle-Eastern money especially. A Conservative briefing note cited an academic study which showed 13% of new London homes were bought by non-residents from 2014 to 2016. “This adds significant amounts of demand to limited supply, inflating house prices and making it harder for people in Britain looking to get a foot on the property ladder,” the briefing note said. The party said the policy was based on residency, not nationality, and the surcharge would be in addition to existing taxes which already charge higher rates for those who own more than one home. Opinion polls put Johnson’s Conservatives well ahead of the opposition Labour Party, led by socialist Jeremy Corbyn, but the election is hard to predict because Brexit overrides traditional party allegiances. Corbyn launched his election manifesto on Thursday, promising to overturn a system he said was rigged in favour of the rich. His party has promised to raise more than 80 billion pounds from taxes on high earners and corporations. -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-11-22 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcomber Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Ah! Dual pricing - Disgraceful........................... Wonder where they got the idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRToMRT Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 He could get my vote (actually any of them could) if they would just promise to make it illegal for Thai's to own land in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungbing Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 And make them report their whereabouts every 90 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, lungbing said: And make them report their whereabouts every 90 days. Or if they move from the living room to the bedroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 and thats 3% on top of the 3% surcharge they already charge for you or your spouse owning property worldwide that'll be a nice surprise for those running home because they cannot get insurance on their OAs w**kers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Foreigners buying property in any country than their own should pay a premium. Ought to make this a 15 percent tax. This is one thing the Thais do right, prohibit (or try to prohibit) foreign property buyers. Keep land within the budget of regular Thai people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 A more effective tax would target the profits made by foreign owners on property sales in the UK, thereby removing the inflationary impact of foreign profiteering in the UK property market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 As if 3% will make a difference. That's a rounding error when you're looking to hide ill gotten money. I'm with Chomper... Tax the gain on sale at 90% for foreign owners. It may not stop the dirty money, but at least British society will get some financial benefits. Just to be clear, I said "foreign". Not "non-resident". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast1 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Society will get no benefits, it is the politics of envy and short term gain. Billions of pounds will stop coming into the UK economy, construction will fall, many will loose jobs. Attacking rich people just makes the poor poorer. House prices will go up, as billions invested in new construction will stop. It is Venezuelan economics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Taxing hot black money, property is where the Russians dump their illegal money and London seemed to like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, toast1 said: Society will get no benefits, it is the politics of envy and short term gain. Billions of pounds will stop coming into the UK economy, construction will fall, many will loose jobs. Attacking rich people just makes the poor poorer. House prices will go up, as billions invested in new construction will stop. It is Venezuelan economics. Yeah exactly, we have the same in germany. - It's so <deleted> sucks to be a landlord in germany, - getting a building permits takes forever, years literally - you can't build anywhere because MUH FORREST or MUH NEED TO PROTECT THE LOCAL BIRD - you can't get rid of a tenent, - the rental yield absolutely sucks - then there's a bunch of politicans that want to make it even worse, stealing even more of your money as an owner. The biggest german RE company does lousy 1.x% returns per year - yet the politicscum wants to tax them even harder. And then those same dumb <deleted> have the decency to complain why no one <deleted> builds multi family homes anymore, well because it's not worth it - obviously... No one, absolutely no one with the noble exception of the italian mafia which just wants to launder money is building a housing project without projecting returns on their investing. Get a grip suites.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 12 hours ago, zydeco said: Foreigners buying property in any country than their own should pay a premium. Ought to make this a 15 percent tax. This is one thing the Thais do right, prohibit (or try to prohibit) foreign property buyers. Keep land within the budget of regular Thai people. you are joking right for example: most land is owned, not by the farmers, but by big land "owner" generals & others in the big city... what is wrong for a person, to buy 1 house in HIS name and not some long term con artists, aka THAI WIFE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 A 15% foreign purchaser tax was brought in in Vancouver about 3 years ago. It put a chill in the market at first but I think it's recovered. In some areas like Richmond foreigners were estimated to own 25% of the real estate. 3% is peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letseng Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 16 hours ago, Beachcomber said: Ah! Dual pricing - Disgraceful........................... Wonder where they got the idea! It is not. Just fair. They are not the only ones doing it in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 4 hours ago, toast1 said: Society will get no benefits, it is the politics of envy and short term gain. Billions of pounds will stop coming into the UK economy, construction will fall, many will loose jobs. Attacking rich people just makes the poor poorer. House prices will go up, as billions invested in new construction will stop. It is Venezuelan economics. Economics not your thing then. Foreign buyers are hiking the prices in the UK market while there is a massive housing shortage. A tax hit on a few thousand property profiteering foreigners does not in any way prevent the UK building the hundreds of thousands of homes the nation needs. House building for the many, rather than vast profits and money laundering for the few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Exactly what would they consider a foreigner? Simple as a non UK citizen? Or will they expand it to include some expats that are outside of UK, permanent resident in other country, no particular home country ties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, gk10002000 said: Exactly what would they consider a foreigner? Simple as a non UK citizen? Or will they expand it to include some expats that are outside of UK, permanent resident in other country, no particular home country ties? I doubt British non-immigrants in other countries need worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Excellent as far as it goes, but a matching sales tax also needed on the disposal of any property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Economics not your thing then. Foreign buyers are hiking the prices in the UK market while there is a massive housing shortage. A tax hit on a few thousand property profiteering foreigners does not in any way prevent the UK building the hundreds of thousands of homes the nation needs. House building for the many, rather than vast profits and money laundering for the few. No what prevents them from building is: - the british government sitting on 250 billion pound worth of land and property: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8656789/Councils-ordered-to-make-money-from-land-and-property-or-sell-them-off.html? - And then selling it to offshore companies: https://whoownsengland.org/2018/04/06/councils-selling-land-worth-millions/ Which are mostly owned by rich british families and developers. Quote There’s no suggestion that the sales below are being used for money laundering, or even good old-fashioned corruption – the few I can identify look like UK development groups using offshore vehicles. For such staggering amounts of 1 POUND: Quote On 14 February 2018, Bracknell Forest Borough Council sold “Land lying to the south of High Street, Bracknell” (title BK334192) to Jersey-based Bracknell General Partner Limited for the princely sum of £1. - London beeing a greenbelt and not allowing people to build in most areas anyway. Let's not forget that all this started with Thatcher getting rid of social housing: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/26/right-to-buy-margaret-thatcher-david-cameron-housing-crisis But yeah always easy to blame the evil foreigners and not taking any responsibility themselves, typical for governments these days. The UK Government <deleted> it up, both parties, over decades, stop blaming the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, ThomasThBKK said: No what prevents them from building is: - the british government sitting on 250 billion pound worth of land and property: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8656789/Councils-ordered-to-make-money-from-land-and-property-or-sell-them-off.html? - And then selling it to offshore companies: https://whoownsengland.org/2018/04/06/councils-selling-land-worth-millions/ Which are mostly owned by rich british families and developers. For such staggering amounts of 1 POUND: - London beeing a greenbelt and not allowing people to build in most areas anyway. Let's not forget that all this started with Thatcher getting rid of social housing: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/26/right-to-buy-margaret-thatcher-david-cameron-housing-crisis But yeah always easy to blame the evil foreigners and not taking any responsibility themselves, typical for governments these days. The UK Government <deleted> it up, both parties, over decades, stop blaming the rest of the world. Exactly. The proposed reforms to Stamp Duty Land Tax - a levy on property purchases - would apply to companies and individuals who are not resident in Britain for tax purposes, and could raise up to 120 million pounds per year, the party said. And 120 million are a fly sh......t Of that, 30% will go for bureaucratic administration. This is just a propaganda hot air balloon from BJ. Always stir up the hatred of foreigners and win voters. How many social housing can you build with 120 million? 120-200? Yeah that's the solution to the housing problems in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, gk10002000 said: Exactly what would they consider a foreigner? Simple as a non UK citizen? Or will they expand it to include some expats that are outside of UK, permanent resident in other country, no particular home country ties? I read somewhere it would be based on tax residency status as opposed to nationality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 17 hours ago, lungbing said: And make them report their whereabouts every 90 days. Many of them post there whereabouts regularly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 minute ago, sfokevin said: Many of them post there whereabouts regularly... Her hands are bigger than Donald's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, zydeco said: Her hands are bigger than Donald's. Healthy diet of rice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 So only the richest falang can own land in the UK. As if it is the poor from other countries that are driving up the price of a flat in London so this'll stop that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 3 hours ago, pegman said: A 15% foreign purchaser tax was brought in in Vancouver about 3 years ago. It put a chill in the market at first but I think it's recovered. In some areas like Richmond foreigners were estimated to own 25% of the real estate. 3% is peanuts. the west coast property market also ended up washing billions in Chinese drug dealing profits.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 way too late to correct this, looks like greed got in the way of foresight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phka Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Non resident forigners Does that include non resident British citezen that file a UK self assessment every year The devil is in the detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 11:04 AM, MRToMRT said: He could get my vote (actually any of them could) if they would just promise to make it illegal for Thai's to own land in the UK. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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