webfact Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Tourists visiting national parks at New Year must have bags to carry their garbage Starting January 1st, tourists visiting national parks in Thailand will be required to carry their own plastic bags to contain the garbage they generate and take it out of the parks when they leave. The measure is part of the new approach to conserve the environment and to protect wild animals from ingesting plastic, which can be fatal. The latest victim was a wild deer, which was found dead last Thursday in Khun Sathan national park in Na Noi district of the northern province of Nan. An autopsy found its stomach contained about seven kilogrammes of trash, mostly plastic, which included single-use plastic bags, male underwear, plastic rope, rubber gloves, coffee sachets and instant noodle bags. Natural Resources and Environment Minister Warawut Silpa-archa said he has instructed chiefs of all national parks to warn tourists to bring their own garbage bags. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/tourists-visiting-national-parks-at-new-year-must-have-bags-to-carry-their-garbage/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2019-11-27 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Good move but please don't make this about tourists (implying non-Thais). The real issue is homegrown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 30 minutes ago, webfact said: required to carry their own plastic bags I thought the push was on to reduce the reliance on plastic bags, suppling biodegrade-able bags as part of an entry fee to use and take out of the park, that could be then deposited in a supplied and Emptied bin, would be more proactive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shy coconut Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, daveAustin said: Good move but please don't make this about tourists (implying non-Thais). The real issue is homegrown. What makes you think that this directive was aimed at non-Thais specifically? 90%+ of visitors to the national parks would be locals, and yes, you can be a tourist in your own country. A quick Google search reveals two definitions of a tourist along the lines of someone visiting a place for pleasure or interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyen Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I bet most of them will dump the rubbish very soon after leaving the park either by the roadside or in the first village they come to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungstib Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Good luck with that. We 'rent' our mango trees out to a village farmer because its too much work for us old people. He employs other men and women to spray trees and weeds, cover young fruit with bags and to harvest. I later find bottles stuffed under leaf piles, bags tucked in dying banana trunks and plastic cups dropped in the long grass. How you get people here to take out what they bring in I dont know. I have tried and failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Lungstib said: Good luck with that. We 'rent' our mango trees out to a village farmer because its too much work for us old people. He employs other men and women to spray trees and weeds, cover young fruit with bags and to harvest. I later find bottles stuffed under leaf piles, bags tucked in dying banana trunks and plastic cups dropped in the long grass. How you get people here to take out what they bring in I dont know. I have tried and failed. laziness nothing more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Obviously this guy didnt get the memo about plastic bags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 tourist who don,t know they pay more than the thais in entrance fees.so the rubbish comes from local people more than farang.i know the scam so i would wait outside if someone went in i know.i have seen the parks and the zoo in cm at the fair price so call me cheap charlie i don,t want to pay over the top prices.if you find tantong falls on the way from phayao it is free along with a few others.nice place to visit and explore if u know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Lungstib said: Good luck with that. We 'rent' our mango trees out to a village farmer because its too much work for us old people. He employs other men and women to spray trees and weeds, cover young fruit with bags and to harvest. I later find bottles stuffed under leaf piles, bags tucked in dying banana trunks and plastic cups dropped in the long grass. How you get people here to take out what they bring in I dont know. I have tried and failed. Offer them money for their trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Hard to believe in this day and age , people have to be told not to litter.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend49 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Double pricing killed off tourists wants of going to these places. This new game will put the cement on top of the grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 "Starting January 1st, tourists visiting national parks in Thailand will be required to carry their own plastic bags to contain the garbage..." Most likely, many Thai tourists will only understand that they must carry a bag, but will still throw their garbage on the ground. Unless there is someone there to tell them to put their garbage in the bag and carry it out of the park, they will never make the connection by themselves. You can thank the "education" system for this total lack of reasoning, and their need to depend on someone else to make decisions for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, shy coconut said: What makes you think that this directive was aimed at non-Thais specifically? Hmmm Maybe he think that because have male underwear and the rubber glove in the dead deer? 2 hours ago, shy coconut said: 90%+ of visitors to the national parks would be locals, and yes, you can be a tourist in your own country. Yes. If read the link, can see they talk about Thai tourist, talk about the 13 village at the park etc. i think better to have bin at the park. 10% people always selfish and lazy, will throw it out of the car, not want stinky rubbish. Even if have 90% do the right way, 10% not do, will still have problem. If Yinn the ranger, I will shoot the people throw rubbish. Will stop them do it. Quickly. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 49 minutes ago, jaiyen said: I bet most of them will dump the rubbish very soon after leaving the park either by the roadside or in the first village they come to. One might hope that there will be a disposal station at the gates. But then, this is Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, mok199 said: Hard to believe in this day and age , people have to be told not to litter.... Same down the beach where I live they just throw it on the ground as they are leaving the beach then the dogs go through it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Curt1591 said: One might hope that there will be a disposal station at the gates. But then, this is Thailand! The orbortor put a load of wheelie bins where people exit the beach I think they all got nicked I dont see any there now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiman123 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 This problem is all over Thailand dine by ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Aussie Chiang Mai Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Denfinately not a foreign tourist problem around reservoirs my area. Rubbish on ground and roads all local food and drink containers. Yep they will take a plastic bag going there to fish. Pigs will fly the day they take it out with their rubbish. Bins are non existent our area, but even if there unlikely be used. Not easy problem to solve with way everyone arriving with plastic bags and foam food containers from roadside sellers. I walk everyday and never have seen a branded bag from big c or rimping. This problem goes much deeper than supermarket bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 hours ago, daveAustin said: Good move but please don't make this about tourists (implying non-Thais). The real issue is homegrown. I read the article as tourists, meaning all tourists, not just aliens. Thais are tourist in their native land too. But you read it differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeybik Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 It is really difficult to find public trash cans anywhere in Thailand. One reason people just throw it on the ground. In the US and other countries in public places you are rarely far from a proper place to put your trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, Hockeybik said: It is really difficult to find public trash cans anywhere in Thailand. One reason people just throw it on the ground. In the US and other countries in public places you are rarely far from a proper place to put your trash. yes, and no, at many public transportation locations and vehicles in the uk there have been no litter bins since the IRA bombings in the 1990s, some people (there will always be some) occasionally drop their litter in these places but the vast majority take their rubbish with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, legend49 said: Double pricing killed off tourists wants of going to these places. This new game will put the cement on top of the grave. Thais are not charged double for being a tourist to Thai parks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Buy more garbage cans with wheels, covers and flaps. Have them empty throughout the day end of the day removed them to a secure location for all the trash to be picked up. Thai officials and the media who took the picture! why in the world is there bags of trash throw into a area in this manner is critical thinking so lacking that one can't figure out the problem. This is the same problem you have in Pattaya, look at the population yet you see no garbage cans anywhere and when there is one you have to walk KM to get to it reason why Thais learn to just throw it on the floor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickey rat Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 57 minutes ago, mok199 said: Hard to believe in this day and age , people have to be told not to litter.... They don't know any better as it's part of the culture. Do not attempt to correct them as it could get nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 hours ago, leeneeds said: I thought the push was on to reduce the reliance on plastic bags, suppling biodegrade-able bags as part of an entry fee to use and take out of the park, that could be then deposited in a supplied and Emptied bin, would be more proactive. Just back from Koa Sok, no plastic bags allowed in only cloth bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickstav Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 People are people all over the world, and there are slobs in every country of every nationality. If Thais are a little behind in conservation efforts I say better late than never. Even if this takes a long time to catch on with the population the alternative is to do nothing. There are many environmentally conscious Thais who care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiAut Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 hours ago, webfact said: must have bags to carry their garbage Like this, they will also throw away a loaded bag... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Irrelevant to me, whilst I never litter anywhere and would willingly carry my rubbish home, I have more self respect than to let them rip me off by 1000% entrance fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buanmeerugsaa Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I wonder when some bureaucrat in Thailand will invent something that could perhaps be called a ‘rubbish bin’ ... along with a removal service .... I’m not holding my breaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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