Trump faces two deadlines as U.S. Congress ramps up impeachment focus

[AussieBob18 3,389]

Seems many people do not know how it works:  Article One of the United States Constitution gives the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment and the Senate the sole power to try impeachments of officers of the U.S. federal government. (Various state constitutions include similar measures, allowing the state legislature to impeach the governor or other officials of the state government.) In contrast to the British system, in the United States impeachment is only the first of two stages, and conviction during the second stage requires "the concurrence of two thirds of the members present".

The House recommends impeachment (lays charges) - the Senate conducts the trial into guilt or innocence.

Clinton was charged with impeachment by the House (members of both Parties), but not enough Senators (both Parties) voted in favour after the Senate trial, and the charge of Impeachment was therefore dismissed.

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7 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 If he is found innocent in the senate what should happen? Another term. 

I think at this point another term is pretty much a given. Americans are not going to elect Communist Bernie, Not going to elect Buttigieg, Not going to elect Biden (the recent video? His mind is obviously shot), Not goingn to elect Pocahontas either. Not going to elect Bloomberg. The entire mess of candidates is a joke.

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4 hours ago, Skallywag said:

to invoke the 25th amendment ...5555

Keep dreaming. Four more years is pretty much in the bag at this point.

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7 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Because being found not guilty by the Senate is the same establish that Trump's policies and actions are good for the citizens of the USA and should be endorsed by them? Non-sequitur much?

This entire sentence does not make any sense in the English language. Do you need a do-over?

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7 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 If he is found innocent in the senate what should happen? Another term. 

I suppose I could excuse the ignorance of this statement thinking that you may not be American.  I cannot speak for all Americans as many of our younger generation have embraced socialism whilst ignoring the civics of our country that they were never taught, nor cared for.

 

In America one is presumed innocent.

 

One is not presumed under our laws or our Constitution to be guilty until a jury of their peers declares them to be so.

 

The House of Representatives is playing politics.  They cannot declare our President guilty or not guilty as they are not the jury.  The real jury should impeachment be voted upon and affirmed by straight party lines, shall be the Senators.  Only the Senate as a whole can declare President Donald John Trump to be guilty.  

 

Pity, that the Trump derangement syndrome gripping those on the left robs them of sound judgment.

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1 hour ago, J Town said:

When you believe ONE MAN above science, above our Intelligence agencies, above former CIA directors and retired generals, and revered career journalists - when you believe that one man above even your own eyes and ears - you have become fully indoctrinated.

When you believe that intelligence agencies, the State Department, and other non-elected bureaucrats should fight against the elected Government, and attempt to control American Policy in the shadows, and overthrow the will of the American people, you have truly been indoctrinated. When you believe that its right and just to thwart the policy of an administration rather then resign with honor, you have been truly indoctrinated. WHen you believe that it's OK to defame a President of the United States with unsubstantiated charges you have been truly indoctrinated. WHen you think its normal that a Political party would identify themselves as "The resistance" words which were reserved for partisans fighting against fascism in combat, you have been indoctrinated. WHen you think its OK for the Speaker of the House to claim that the American President (while in control of the American Nucelar arsenal) works for the Russian President, You have been indoctrinated. When several former heads of American Intelligence agencies take jobs at the same time for media outlets and you see that as normal behavior for ex heads of CIA or FBI, you have been indoctrinated. WHen you forgive a political party claiming that the President of the United States hired prostitutes to <deleted> on the bed used by the former President and First lady in a hotel. You have been indoctrinated. WHen you do not quesiton a party calling for a 16 year old vote - you have been indoctrinated. When you think 20 million illegal undocumented aliens living within your country is OK you have been indoctrinated. When a political party calls for the abolition of constitutional safeguards such as the electoral college or calls for moving Justices off of the supreme court - You have been indoctrinated. WHen you think that its OK for the Government to force Americans at Gunpoint to give up their property You have been indoctrinated. WHen you think that one administration spying on the incoming administration is OK you have been indoctrinated. When you think that civil war statues (Yes that preserve an ugliness of US history to many) should be torn down and destroyed you have been indoctrinated. If you think that calling for a ban on 7 muslim countries that are unable to police their identity documents for passports is wrong - you have been indoctrinated. WHen you fail to question any AMerican foreign policy as related to NATO, or Russia, Ukraine, or China, you have been indoctrinated.

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44 minutes ago, J Town said:

The Senate (a singular NOT plural body) has erroneously announced they will not remove the president before seeing a single piece of evidence at trial.

A singular body made up of 50 Senators, regardless of any grammar police. And they are not acting erroneously. They are acting as they see fit under the circumstances. Regardless of your opinion of their actions. This is no more then a political stunt. Oh Gee they agree. That's the way it is. Hold the damn trial if it gets that far. Bring all the evidence. Or simply dismiss it like a slap in the Democrats face. Then let them continue to cry. Standing by for Barr, Durham and the IG. At this point I would like to see the entire Democrat leadership in Jail...as I see them all as acting "eroneously" , and as disgusting filth to add to that.

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10 hours ago, RPCVguy said:

Make Attorneys Get Attorneys

NO doubt why McCabe Comey and Brennan spend so much time on CNN and MSNBC getting paid. Attorney's are expensive. For sure!

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Some inflammatory insulting posts have been removed. 

 

A post using a trolling representation of somebody's name has been removed, please use the correct spelling of people's names for clarity. 

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10 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Yes, the democrats have sealed their fate re congressional elections next year - never mind Trump will win in a landslide. 

It'll be a rout!  

 

MAGA 

Well as Trump is now apparently too scared to turn up and face scrutiny , it certainly would be a rout.

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43 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

A singular body made up of 50 Senators, regardless of any grammar police. And they are not acting erroneously. They are acting as they see fit under the circumstances. Regardless of your opinion of their actions. This is no more then a political stunt. Oh Gee they agree. That's the way it is. Hold the damn trial if it gets that far. Bring all the evidence. Or simply dismiss it like a slap in the Democrats face. Then let them continue to cry. Standing by for Barr, Durham and the IG. At this point I would like to see the entire Democrat leadership in Jail...as I see them all as acting "eroneously" , and as disgusting filth to add to that.

Utterly deranged lol

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1 minute ago, joecoolfrog said:

Well as Trump is now apparently too scared to turn up and face scrutiny , it certainly would be a rout.

Perhaps, you should read my post above: 

Trump doesn't have to lend credence to a sham.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

And yet he was boasting the other week that he couldn't wait to show up and put the record straight.

A quote or reference would go much farther than a vague statement. As I recall, Trump is wanting to go to the Senate, where the treachery will be laid bare for all to see. 

 

Pity the left for the excoriation that will ensue.

Edited December 2, 2019 by UncleFesterNightmare

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32 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Utterly deranged lol

Thank you