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Thai tourism: Further doom and gloom from the North

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9 hours ago, racket said:

International trade wars? Hasn’t affected me. Can’t remember anyone blaming the trade wars for not visiting Thailand. Let’s just say that the Thai baht is overpriced...

Can't be that. Tourism figures are up. The question is, if they are not going to CM, where are they going ?

 

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2 minutes ago, mike787 said:

If thais wanted to change all this they can, BUT they DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE.

Its not about wanting, its about revamping entire driving license system and training.

 

They simply do not know road rules and do not have any training.

 

Driving lessons consist of driving around in a circle in an open field.

 

Lack of enforcement does not help either.

 

I often have fights with my staff when they get pulled over, no driving license, no helmet. They scream bad police, whats the problem they driving to or from work. I tell them, police did their job as they should, and they (staff) are in the wrong. All i get told is that i do not understand 

 

May be if fine for driving without DL was 10 000 baht instead of 500, they may think twice about driving without one. and may be if proper training was provided, instead of few thousand here and there, it will also make difference, by the way, testing is also done in cornered off zone which does not require much skills at all.

 

I am sure if testing was done on open road, like in most countries in the world, vast majority would be failing miserably.

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On 12/2/2019 at 11:08 AM, cornishcarlos said:

 

I believe TAT...

I believe the people on the ground because I have seen it with my own eyes.

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I live close to Chiang Mai Gate tourist numbers are up from low season but not as many as a few years ago. The chinese are defiantly down. A good up tick in farangs from Europe, the US, England and a few Aussies. Not over powering number but up compared to a few months ago. Thai friends who have businesses in the area way down on numbers of customers. The Saturday walking street which would have traffice backed up some distance on the smaller sois is way down with car traffic. This market would have lots of Thais from Chiang Rai and other near by cities as well as tours from the south then add in the tourist and it was packed, now not so much

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On 12/2/2019 at 11:03 AM, NCC1701A said:

the thing about it is people need to be able to breathe.

well the rice crops are in, time to burn the stubble, unless the Thai farmers use the subsidised tractors.

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18 hours ago, tabarin said:

You are worse off, all year long, on average, in Bangkok.


This is the wrong way to look at it. When considering exposure to any form of toxin, it is the extremes that are most dangerous. For example, drinking a bottle of whiskey over the course of a week can be fun, but downing the whole thing in one night could kill you.

Even if the year-round pollution Bangkok works out higher on average (they actually average out to about the same), Chiang Mai's more extreme days are far more dangerous.

Being exposed to one day at, say, 320 is not twice as dangerous as one day 160, it is an entirely different category of risk. People in the north, which already has among the highest levels of lung cancer in the world, are now part of an unprecedented experiment on human beings. We have no idea what the medium to long term consequences will be, but all indications suggest that they won't be good.

 

19 hours ago, tabarin said:

Guess these comments come from people who not live in CM themselves.


This discussion is in the Chiang Mai Forum. It's a fair assumption that everyone bothering to post here has first-hand familiarity with the region.
 

 

19 hours ago, tabarin said:

Currently being in 'high season', we have perfect weather with blue skies and cold nights.


The current pollution levels, especially at night, are far from normal for this time of year. Usually, around this time, you can see the mountains clearly from my suburb but, this year, they have been blurred by pollution every day.

At night, walking around my village at this time of year, I would usually enjoy the exotic scents coming from the many splendid gardens but, this year, you can taste the smoke in every breath. Everyone here closes their windows and switches on their aircons as the evening draws in.

This is the worst I have seen it during high season in over a decade here. Last year, we did not hit these levels until around mid-January. It is already widely accepted that people with options get out of Chiang Mai between January and April. It will be a disaster for Chiang Mai tourism if that danger zone now spreads into the high season too.

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22 hours ago, Jimbo2014 said:

Im shocked actually.  I really thought people would flock to see the most polluted city in Asia (as it was last January).

It is only polluted some of the time, changes rapidly!!

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1 hour ago, donnacha said:

Everyone here closes their windows and switches on their aircons as the evening draws in.

That's to keep the mosquitoes out.

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22 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

That's to keep the mosquitoes out.


I am, of course, talking about windows with mosquito netting 😄

One of the nice things about our village at this time of year was that you could sleep with your netted window open, hearing the buzz of the cicadas and enjoying the plant fragrances. Now when I walk down the street in the evenings, the most dominant sound is the hum of the aircons, and that's a great shame.

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