Banana7 1,277 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Moo 2 said: Paper bags!? Here goes our forests. Forests burn too! Forests grow and re-generate. Billions of trees are available. Also, paper can be recycled. Paper bags are a practical alternative. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
zydeco 11,275 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said: I'm organised enough to keep a bag in the car for when I go shopping. Why do you use a private car? You pollute more with your trip to the grocery store than if you used 100 plastic bags. You should bicycle or use public transportation. But you're in hysterics over plastic bags??? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
david555 5,700 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, zydeco said: Why do you use a private car? You pollute more with your trip to the grocery store than if you used 100 plastic bags. You should bicycle or use public transportation. But you're in hysterics over plastic bags??? That's for a later stage …, not al at once … but you have good ideas …! Don't regret later they also implicate that too…..5555 Link to post Share on other sites
Odysseus123 13,211 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Banana7 said: Forests grow and re-generate. Billions of trees are available. Also, paper can be recycled. Paper bags are a practical alternative. There are quite a few practical alternatives..apart from re-usable plastic bags we have enviro-bags as well... Great bags for all kinds of stuff. Peeople line up with their bags as it is quite unusual to buy new bags (i did yesterday and it cost me 50 cents) most are quite proud to be doing their bit.. I am very sure that it is the same in the United States of Paranoia-alias "crackerland" 1 Link to post Share on other sites
zydeco 11,275 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 57 minutes ago, SunsetT said: Just carry reusable bags in your car or under motorbike seat just as most people now do in the UK. If they start charging 10thb per plastic bag, again as they have in the UK, habits will soon change. People should be made to walk, not drive around in polluting gasoline engine driven cars and trucks. Then habits will really change, won't they? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Odysseus123 13,211 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, zydeco said: People should be made to walk, not drive around in polluting gasoline engine driven cars and trucks. Then habits will really change, won't they? We are talking about plastic bags..which pollute Thailand to an extraordinary degree. Any steps to remove or diminish this level of pollution are welcome as are more initiatives to manage a most extraordinary situation-ie garbage bins,collections and disposal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tchooptip 4,035 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 12 hours ago, BestB said: So if not bags available, how will i take my shopping? Will they be selling carry bags for a reasonable price of like 20-30 baht or do the Makro thing, 99 baht for a bag, which will not fit much in Why not follow Malaysia and Indonesia, if you want plastic, you pay extra for it. Soon people will either bring their own bags or not use as much and try to pack as much in as possible into one In Home pro now they sell the bags but the same plastic bag 1 baht. Link to post Share on other sites
Docno 3,591 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 36 minutes ago, david555 said: in the bag case it is both who has to change consumers and sellers who ever they are , it is proven in my Europe country ...we adapted vey quick as no other option ….maybe you where one of them there …. we keep recycling our garbage and use own or multi reusable bags …. isn't…it ? I use my plastic bags to carry my recyclable goods (bottles, cans, etc) down to the recycling bins on our condo's ground floor. I'm not going to take them down individually by hand. I also use them to bring garbage to the garbage chute on our floor. Again, I don't know what the alternative to that is... bring my steak fat and veggie peelings by hand (literally) out there every few hours? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bangkok Barry 9,088 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, zydeco said: Why do you use a private car? You pollute more with your trip to the grocery store than if you used 100 plastic bags. You should bicycle or use public transportation. But you're in hysterics over plastic bags??? Maybe because I live deep in the countryside? Perhaps you think I should get a horse, but then you'd say their farts pollute the environment. And I admire your apparent ability to balance 6-10 bags of shopping on a bicycle. I couldn't. And please quote where I was 'in hysterics' about plastic bags. All I said was it makes sense to take your own bag to the supermarket, as millions do in Europe and have done for many years. Thailand is taking the first step to catching up. But plastic bags from supermarkets are probably the smallest pollutant of all because, as another poster wrote, the ones given out here disintegrate into dust within a few months. It is the companies, mostly international, that need to revert to glass containers for drinks, milk etc. Like it used to be. They are a far greater problem than flimsy, short-lived bags from Big C. Edited December 3, 2019 by Bangkok Barry Link to post Share on other sites
david555 5,700 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Docno said: I use my plastic bags to carry my recyclable goods (bottles, cans, etc) down to the recycling bins on our condo's ground floor. I'm not going to take them down individually by hand. I also use them to bring garbage to the garbage chute on our floor. Again, I don't know what the alternative to that is... bring my steak fat and veggie peelings by hand (literally) out there every few hours? So … you do the same as me ( carry my recyclable goods (bottles, cans, etc) down to the recycling bins…) funny to see that... I think those against the plastic ban don't realize it is about diminishing the bags , ban all plastic use for ever what it is made , is for this moment unrealistic , but it has to be given a start to serious reduce and hoping Thai government make some environment friendly garbage destruction plants and sewer cleaning stations on populated areas instead of those expensive military toy's Edited December 3, 2019 by david555 Link to post Share on other sites
wayned 5,815 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 12 hours ago, Yinn said: The paper bag. Dad tell me before plastic bag popular, the shop all use paper bag. Human can survive with no plastic bag. Not panic. We be ok. i use already. No problem. We can do it! And many years ago the reason we stopped using paper bags was to save all of the trees that were being cut down to make them! If we hadn't switched to paper back then today's environmental situation would be far worse than it is now! Link to post Share on other sites
Odysseus123 13,211 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 What Australia discovered was that upon enforcing new rules that there were literally millions of plastic bags in "reserve" and squirrelled away. These bags have now come into play and are being used for shopping and trash. A win for everyone concerned as there is no use for people hoarding plastic. There is no doubt that these ideas shall seep thru' to "crackerland" in the end. Link to post Share on other sites
observer90210 8,528 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Have the groceries delivered, if the service is avaiable....far more convenient... Edited December 3, 2019 by observer90210 Link to post Share on other sites
wayned 5,815 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, observer90210 said: Have the groceries delivered, if the service is avaiable....far more convenient... Not everbody lives in an area where delivery is avaiable and the daily outdoor markets certainly won't deliver. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
khunbillmex 102 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Last week at Tops/Central Plaza Kohn Kaen on No Bag Day each register had an ample supply of cardboard cartons for customers to load their groceries in. My guess is that these cartons would be normally be recycled in bulk by Tops but as one-offs to the customer they would just get tossed, Nice try to be helpful but going in the wrong direction. Link to post Share on other sites
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