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18 hours ago, Onrai said:

Well everyone has their own opinion. I’ve only lived in San Francisco and the Bay Area 65 years so obviously I couldn’t possibly have an informed opinion.

Anyone running for re-election, anyone who has ever gone to a town council meeting, knows that road maintenance is a top priority that generally fails to get any traction. 280, 101, 680 are well maintained but not any better than the major highways here. 

Probably worse maintained now that CA. Is struggling with major infrastructure problems due to all the forest fires and allocating assets elsewhere. 

That people are more polite clearly shows we are talking about a different San Francisco CA. Road rage is almost at epidemic levels. Hard to drive anywhere without someone flipping you off for a perceived slight. Don’t believe me- I’d be happy to send you scores of articles on people ramming each other, chasing each other for 10’s of miles because someone got someone <deleted> off. It is a phenomenon that I have never seen in any other country. I ‘d love to have a discussion on what causes road rage in America. What amazes me about Thailand is that most confrontational situations never reach a boiling point. People take it in stride and rarely get angry. People in and around San Francisco have a sense of entitlement that escalates at the smallest provocation. Road rage is just as much a uniquely American phenomenon as mass shootings of innocent civilians.  Neither exist t anywhere near the level they do in America. My suggestion is read the news, go to city council meetings about road conditions. Try cutting someone off, or trail gate, or forget to make a lane change without your turn signal and see what happens. 

Opinions differ.  I to have lived in the bay area for about the same amount of time as you.  I just returned from a 3 month visit.  Frankly I was shocked how much better the roads where and how more relaxed the driving was.  

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1 hour ago, Shouldhaveknownbetter said:

Opinions differ.  I to have lived in the bay area for about the same amount of time as you.  I just returned from a 3 month visit.  Frankly I was shocked how much better the roads where and how more relaxed the driving was.  San 

Like I said- we must be talking about a different San Francisco, CA.

 

Please refer to San Francisco Chronicle article dated October 18, 2018, which ranks San Francisco Roads as the worst roads in the Nation

”The Bay Area has the worst roads in the nation, according to a new report by TRIP, a Washington, D.C.-based transportation research group, that seeks to bolster a campaign by California transit officials to preserve the state’s recent gas tax hike”

 

I have also attached just a Small selection of articles on road rage in the Bay Area. 

 

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8 hours ago, Onrai said:

 

Well I can tell you one thing- Who only recognizes 34 countries that collect data according to their data collection protocol. Want to guess if Thailand is included in that list?

I think you haven't been reading my posts. What is your point?

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On 12/3/2019 at 3:07 PM, Airbagwill said:

No it isn't, you're just making up and misusing sound-bites.

AHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!

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Am I the only one for whom Thai driving is not an issue? When I learned to drive it was in a busy city. Since then I have driven and been a passenger in many countries and they have been a lot worse than Thailand. I assume the complainers, who find Thai driving a challenge, are essentially country people who would be equally unnerved in London or Tripoli or New York or Riyadh? I have seen more dangerous situations in one week in Saudi than in 25 years in Thailand. One thing I dont understand about people who find driving stressful is: why do it?

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On 12/5/2019 at 5:55 AM, Onrai said:

 

The Thai driving statistics are not accurate because they include motorcycles which are inherently more dangerous and the statistics include country and rural roads. When compared to other countries like is not being compared to like. There is no real true comparison. Ask anybody to compare driving in a Thai city or town to a Middle Eastern or African city or town and they will tell you the truth: Thailand is very safe.

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13 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

Am I the only one for whom Thai driving is not an issue? When I learned to drive it was in a busy city. Since then I have driven and been a passenger in many countries and they have been a lot worse than Thailand. I assume the complainers, who find Thai driving a challenge, are essentially country people who would be equally unnerved in London or Tripoli or New York or Riyadh? I have seen more dangerous situations in one week in Saudi than in 25 years in Thailand. One thing I dont understand about people who find driving stressful is: why do it?

Could be, perhaps you don't notice everything that's going on....🤔

 

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It seems despite all the danger no one actually gad an accident....but they have avoided them with "near misses" that we can put down to their superb driving skills.

Furthermore i feel we can rest assured in the knowledge that any accident they may have will 100% not be their fault.

A bizarre commonality amongst so many of the posters on this thread.

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Last year I was driving in Nakhon Ratchasima about to make a U-Turn. I signalled right to pull into the slip lane, checked my mirror and noticed a high performance bike behind me. Thinking the bike was going to stay in the same lane and continue, I proceeded to drift to the right slip lane. The bike then decided to accelerate and overtook me on the right in the U-Turn lane then shot up the highway.

 

How I missed the c@@@ I will never know.

 

 

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On 12/2/2019 at 8:26 PM, richard_smith237 said:

It sounds?... a great text to voice application you must have there. 

 

Anyway, No, he shouldn't walk !!! haven't you been following the pedestrian crossing threads recently ???

 

It seems as though the Op narrowly avoided an accident caused by an impatient idiot, he's right to remind himself and the rest of us be extra cautious.

 

Am I walking here? Noooooooooooooooooo!!

 

  Every day on my way to school, I come by the hospital, and I always stop at the zebra crossing. 

 

And every time, motorbikes, pickups, and even trucks are trying to take over and kill some innocent people who want to go to the hospital or leave it.

 

Usually, sick people come from or go to the hospital, so pedestrians should have priority. 

 

Even the coppers in a pick up didn't stop on the other side when I stopped, and people started walking. 

 

Well, if the cops don't stop, who else would? The OP was right, and it's a jungle out there. But even more dangerous for pedestrians. 

 

  

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Discussion of misquoted post and replies removed. 

 

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On 12/5/2019 at 10:56 AM, richard_smith237 said:

92.8% of Road deaths in the US (in 2017) involved 4 wheeled vehicles = 37,133 deaths per year.

I would check this stat.

Most sources agree that in the USA, about 35 to 40% of road deaths are occupants of 4-wheeled private vehicles

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Pedestrians account for about 8% of road deaths. So about proportionally two thirds compared to private 4-wheeled vehicles.o So roughly speaking, forevery 2 pedestrians killed 3 car occupants die.

Vulnerable road users however account for 80% of Thai road deaths. Vulnerable category includes pedestrians, motorcyclists (2 & 3-wheels) cyclists.

In many countries the alcohol percentage in pedestrians can be as high as 50%.

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On 12/6/2019 at 10:59 PM, sunnyboy2018 said:

The Thai driving statistics are not accurate because they include motorcycles which are inherently more dangerous and the statistics in

 

clude country and rural roads. When compared to other countries like is not being compared to like.

All the deaths per 100,000 stats gathered by WHO include motorcyclists and other "vulnerable" categories.

The problem is that many of those talking about road safety in Thailand especially on T.V. fixate a n the single overall stat with breaking it down or more importantly, looking at the plethora of other stats provided by WHO.

I would suggest that thoroughly studying this WHO report would make a good starting point to get an overall picture ....

https://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/road_safety_status/2018/en/

 

For a start you'll realise that road safety is more than just a driving issue it is regarded as a HEALTH issue.

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7 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

Thinking the bike was going to stay in the same

This why some foreigners arw ull-advised to drive in places like Thailand, making assumptions based on driving elsewhere is foolhardy in the extreme. No matter what country you are in.

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