Earth's temperature likely marks hottest decade on record: report

[snoop1130]

Earth's temperature likely marks hottest decade on record: report

By Matthew Green

 

FILE PHOTO: An iceberg floats in a fjord near Tasiilaq, Greenland, June 16, 2018. REUTERS/Lucas Jackson/File Photo

 

MADRID (Reuters) - The past decade is almost certain to be the hottest on record, weather experts warned on Tuesday, painting a bleak picture of vanishing sea ice, devastating heatwaves and encroaching seas in a report launched at a climate summit in Spain.

 

An annual assessment of the Earth’s climate by the Geneva-based World Meteorological Organization (WMO) underscored the stakes at two weeks of talks aimed at shoring up the 2015 Paris Agreement to avert catastrophic global warming.

 

“Heatwaves and floods which used to be ‘once-in-a-century’ events are becoming more regular occurrences,” WMO Secretary-General Petteri Taalas said in a statement.

 

“Countries ranging from the Bahamas to Japan to Mozambique suffered the effect of devastating  tropical cyclones. Wildfires swept through the Arctic and Australia,” he said.

 

Among the report’s findings:

 

** Average temperatures for the five-year (2015-2019) and 10-year (2010-2019) periods are almost certain to be the highest on record.

 

** 2019 is on course to be the second- or third-warmest year on record.

 

** Sea water is 26 percent more acidic than at the start of the industrial era, degrading marine ecosystems.

 

** Arctic sea-ice neared record lows in September and October, and Antarctica also saw record low ice several times this year.

 

** Climate change is a key driver of a recent rise in global hunger after a decade of steady declines, with more than 820 million people suffering from hunger in 2018.

 

** Weather disasters displaced millions of people this year and affected rainfall patterns from India to northern Russia and the central United States, and many other regions.

 

The report also noted that surges in sea temperatures known as “marine heatwaves” which devastate underwater life had become more common.

 

The report said the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere hit a record level of 407.8 parts per million in 2018 and continued to rise in 2019. Opening the climate summit on Monday, United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres had warned that 400 parts per million had once been considered an “unthinkable” tipping point.

 

A drumbeat of dire reports from climate science in the past year has fueled environmental activism, prompted some companies to commit to slashing emissions and raised concerns among investors about the stability of asset prices.

 

Nevertheless, delegates in Madrid are facing an uphill battle to persuade major emitters to embrace the kind of radical change needed to shift the Earth’s climate system onto a more habitable trajectory.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-12-03

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[TopDeadSenter]

So it's back to "Global Warming" again. This shaggy dog story has more plot twists than the Jussie Smollet lynching.

[sirineou]

It's not so hot when you have your head buried in the sand.

[Catoholic]

Really?

 

Warm weather means bikini's, bbq's and beer! ????

 

How dare you! ????

[Aforek]

27 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

So it's back to "Global Warming" again. This shaggy dog story has more plot twists than the Jussie Smollet lynching.

There are still people who don't believe in "global warming " ????; ?

come back in one century;  you prefer to believe Trump ?  

[pgrahmm]

Tall claims considering consistent accurate record keeping world wide with reliable instruments might, possibly, maybe, have been employed for possibly as many as 150 years during the millions of years of the earth's existence... 

[wgdanson]

24 in Plok this morning. Wish it will be half that in London tomorrow.

[saengd]

Is that an express train bearing down on me?

 

No, don't worry, it's just a trick of the light, it's nothing really, just stay where you are and you'll be fine.

 

Thank goodness for th......   splat.

[canuckamuck]

every year should be close to the record, because it is warming. Ice age isn't over yet.

[RickBradford]

These catastrophe stories all proliferate just before the UN's annual gabfest, held annually in early December. A mere 25,000 delegates have decided to attend this 25th edition from all over the world, and if you want to calculate the carbon footprint of all those journeys, then go ahead, but be warned that you are not demonstrating sufficient solidarity.

 

On the schedule are massive amounts of posturing and virtue signalling, plenty of high-sounding political declarations, and almost certainly a tearful and woefully uninformed rant from Greta Thunberg.

 

The result, as with the previous 24 conferences, will be zero action.

[Kwasaki]

4 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

An annual assessment of the Earth’s climate by the Geneva-based World Meteorological Organization (WMO) underscored the stakes at two weeks of talks aimed at shoring up the 2015 Paris Agreement to avert catastrophic global warming.

Just watched " Geostorm " on Netflix there's no problem. 

[mickey rat]

How long have they been keeping record? ????

[pgrahmm]

3 minutes ago, mickey rat said:

How long have they been keeping record? ????

Maybe around 150 years - more than likely less...Before that, no reliable instruments & no world wide coordination of information.....

[Bugsy777]

[saengd]

13 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

every year should be close to the record, because it is warming. Ice age isn't over yet.

Ahh, I see, so the natural average temperature, when the ice age is completely over will be what and how much further do we have to go before we reach that point, 5 degrees, 10 degrees, 50 degrees?

 

Second question, how do we know the answer to the first question is correct since there are no records dating back that far?

[saengd]

1 minute ago, secondfusilier said:

 

Your second question is absolutely ridiculous, that is like asking how we know dinosaurs existed as they were also around before records were kept.

How do we know anything about the earth before records were kept?

You do understand what the words 'Geology' and 'Geologist' means don't you?

If you are still confused try using Google, my earlier suggestion of this on this thread was not a slur, it was advice to assist people such as yourself.

 

 

 

 

My questions to that poster stand as is, unaffected by your silly humour regarding dinosaurs.

 

Indeed yes I do know of google. Except it wasn't google that made the above claim regarding the ice age, I therefore thought it useful to question the posters views, rather than my web browser!

[canuckamuck]

37 minutes ago, saengd said:

Ahh, I see, so the natural average temperature, when the ice age is completely over will be what and how much further do we have to go before we reach that point, 5 degrees, 10 degrees, 50 degrees?

 

Second question, how do we know the answer to the first question is correct since there are no records dating back that far?

About +0.7 degrees would get us up to the average for the last 10,000 years

 

Second question, The scientists have some idea, from various techniques. No one can say how close they are to getting it right though.

[spidermike007]

Fascinating how most posts on this forum are from people living in total denial. As if all the <deleted> we spew into the atmosphere, the seas, the rivers and lakes, do not have any impact on anything. This planet is so big it can handle anything. And our atmosphere is so stable, nothing can affect it. Yeah right. Take some responsibility. Please. 

 

Prior to Newton, there was a large percentage of the population that denied the existence of gravity. When an apple fell on their heads, they would use their powers of reason to come up with 100 reasons why it had nothing to do with gravity, which was a falsehood. Right. Their denial had very little impact on gravity itself.

 

And besides, from a scientific point of view, 800,000 year old ice core samples mean very little to the naysayers. More important to obey the political masters anyway. After all, corporate interests might be affected. 

 

 

[saengd]

9 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

About +0.7 degrees would get us up to the average for the last 10,000 years

 

Second question, The scientists have some idea, from various techniques. No one can say how close they are to getting it right though.

Serious question......how much to get us to the average peak or trough over the same period, averages overall can be very misleading? 

 

For example: the average of 2, 2, 2, 9, 9, 9 is 5, are you saying we're 0.7% away from 5 or are we still headed towards 9?

[ivor bigun]

Well all i know is it bloody cold here in Pattaya. while i am writing this.

[canuckamuck]

10 minutes ago, saengd said:

Serious question......how much to get us to the average peak or trough over the same period, averages overall can be very misleading? 

 

For example: the average of 2, 2, 2, 9, 9, 9 is 5, are you saying we're 0.7% away from 5 or are we still headed towards 9?

Here's a chart

[Cryingdick]

24 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Fascinating how most posts on this forum are from people living in total denial. As if all the <deleted> we spew into the atmosphere, the seas, the rivers and lakes, do not have any impact on anything. This planet is so big it can handle anything. And our atmosphere is so stable, nothing can affect it. Yeah right. Take some responsibility. Please. 

 

Prior to Newton, there was a large percentage of the population that denied the existence of gravity. When an apple fell on their heads, they would use their powers of reason to come up with 100 reasons why it had nothing to do with gravity, which was a falsehood. Right. Their denial had very little impact on gravity itself.

 

And besides, from a scientific point of view, 800,000 year old ice core samples mean very little to the naysayers. More important to obey the political masters anyway. After all, corporate interests might be affected. 

 

 

No denial here. Turn your air con off and stop eating hamburgers. We have 9 years my brain hurts a lot . 9 years that's all we got.

[canuckamuck]

28 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Fascinating how most posts on this forum are from people living in total denial. As if all the <deleted> we spew into the atmosphere, the seas, the rivers and lakes, do not have any impact on anything. This planet is so big it can handle anything. And our atmosphere is so stable, nothing can affect it. Yeah right. Take some responsibility. Please. 

 

Prior to Newton, there was a large percentage of the population that denied the existence of gravity. When an apple fell on their heads, they would use their powers of reason to come up with 100 reasons why it had nothing to do with gravity, which was a falsehood. Right. Their denial had very little impact on gravity itself.

 

And besides, from a scientific point of view, 800,000 year old ice core samples mean very little to the naysayers. More important to obey the political masters anyway. After all, corporate interests might be affected. 

 

 

Your post is a false dichotomy. People are not in denial of the dangers of pollution and environmental destruction.

Those who you choose to call deniers, are usually well studied free thinkers, who choose to reject the premise that climate catastrophe is imminent, and is being caused by the tiny percentage of human contributed CO2 in the atmosphere.

 

Also, the old ice cores tend to disprove the CO2 link to warming. And those being controlled by political masters all talk like you.

[saengd]

33 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

Here's a chart

This is an interesting take on your graph, it seems it's the global warming equivalent of the Brexit Bus and the 350 million for the NHS.

 

https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-what-greenland-ice-cores-say-about-past-and-present-climate-change

[canuckamuck]

44 minutes ago, saengd said:

This is an interesting take on your graph, it seems it's the global warming equivalent of the Brexit Bus and the 350 million for the NHS.

 

https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-what-greenland-ice-cores-say-about-past-and-present-climate-change

Thanks for that. If you use this recreated temperature record then you still see that we are nowhere near the high side of the last 10000 years. But I would say that we are closer to the mean using that information. It is also important to note that on the chart from the link, much of the recent warming was pre WW2. So the the source of warming must be more than anthropomorphic. Especially considering that 10,000 year chart has many warmings of a similar rate. And even one that shows about 5 degrees of warming in only 50 years.

 

Also I have to add my suspicion of these corrected measurements that always seem to favor the narrative of catastrophe. But even so, the chart does nothing to show anything unnatural occurring.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

As if all the <deleted> we spew into the atmosphere, the seas, the rivers and lakes, do not have any impact on anything.

I don't consider myself part of 'we'.

Please don't include me in your delusions.

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, pgrahmm said:

Maybe around 150 years - more than likely less...Before that, no reliable instruments & no world wide coordination of information.....

How accurate do you think a Victorian gentleman was reading his thermometer in 1870?

How about someone just before WW1?

1 degree, 2 degrees?

[saengd]

28 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

Thanks for that. If you use this recreated temperature record then you still see that we are nowhere near the high side of the last 10000 years. But I would say that we are closer to mean by that information. It is also important to note that on the chart from the link, much of the recent warming was pre WW2. So the the source of warming must be more than anthropomorphic. Especially considering that 10,000 year chart has many warmings of a similar rate. And even one that shows about 5 degrees of warming in only 50 years.

 

Also I have to add my suspicion of these corrected measurements that always seem to favor the narrative of catastrophe. But even so, the chart does nothing to show anything unnatural occurring.

It's slightly troubling that the graph ends at 1950, granted that's only a relatively short time ago in the overall picture of things but granularity might be an issue.

[Assurancetourix]

16 hours ago, Aforek said:

There are still people who don't believe in "global warming " ????; ?

come back in one century;  you prefer to believe Trump ?  

 

As Richard Lindzen, a climatologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), Ph.D. in climatology at Harvard, shares the skepticism of at least three Nobel laureates: "Future generations will wonder with amused amazement at why At the beginning of the 21st century, the developed world plunged into a hysterical panic about an average global temperature rise of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations, highly uncertain computer projections, combined with improbable inferences, he found himself in the face of a decline in the industrial age. "

[canuckamuck]

13 minutes ago, saengd said:

It's slightly troubling that the graph ends at 1950, granted that's only a relatively short time ago in the overall picture of things but granularity might be an issue.

I can imagine that the process to create glacial ice from fresh snow requires quite a few years. Perhaps only deeper ice is useful for gas chromatography.