webfact Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Taiwanese travel agents take aim at Thailand’s ‘humiliating’ new visa requirements Lawrence Chung Taiwanese tourists will need to provide proof of funds if they are to visit Thai attractions such as Bangkok’s Wat Saket temple, also known as Golden Mount. Photo: AFP - They argue the island should negotiate less-demanding terms with Thailand, whose citizens are allowed visa-free entry to Taiwan - Taipei government has tried to attract visitors from Southeast Asia amid drop in number of mainland Chinese tourists Taiwan’s travel agents have accused President Tsai Ing-wen’s government of allowing the island to be humiliated by failing to demand reciprocal visa-free treatment from Thailand.Their complaints came after Thailand introduced stricter visa requirements on Monday for individual visitors from Taiwan, including submission of financial statements, which they said was demeaning for Taiwanese customers. “This is really humiliating, just like some developed countries in the West that require visitors from the Third World or poorer countries to provide financial statements out of concerns that those visitors might end up becoming illegal immigrants,” Hsiao Po-jen, president of Taiwan’s Travel Agent Association, said. Self-ruled Taiwan is among 18 jurisdictions whose citizens are affected by the new visa requirements to enter Thailand. Individual travellers from Taiwan must provide details of their finances to obtain a tourist visa, complete a visa application and pay online before booking an appointment in Taipei to submit their passport, along with proof of onward travel and accommodation. Full story: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3040431/taiwanese-travel-agents-bemoan-thailands-humiliating-new-visa -- South China Morning Post 2019-12-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Quit Whining. Same as Canada for years ... From the OP ... Individual travellers from Taiwan must provide details of their finances to obtain a tourist visa, complete a visa application and pay online before booking an appointment in Taipei to submit their passport, along with proof of onward travel and accommodation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Quote Wang also claimed that the arrangements for Thai visitors had created an illegal prostitution problem in Taiwan because some Thai women were travelling there to work in the sex trade. So, I'm on this Tinder date with a 22 year old and she flat out tells me she is doing massages in Japan, Korea, Taiwan and some other visa free countries I forgot about. She tells me she was already arrested in Japan and deported, but no problem there are still so many countries to make money because Thailand pay is very terrible when it comes to prostitution. I let her pay for lunch and was on my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I wonder whether the other 17 "jurisdictions" include Hong Kong and Macau? It would be interesting to know where the idea to make life that bit more difficult for the people of Taiwan came from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, canthai55 said: Quit Whining. Same as Canada for years ... From the OP ... Individual travellers from Taiwan must provide details of their finances to obtain a tourist visa, complete a visa application and pay online before booking an appointment in Taipei to submit their passport, along with proof of onward travel and accommodation. Lol, are you kidding me? Canada actually has jobs on offer, real non slavery wages and free world class healthcare. I am in Toronto right now and have 27 year old guys who chauffeur me with Uber and Lyft saying they make up to 500 bucks a day working part time. Same in Canada....get out rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realfunster Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Seems odd as Taiwan is a medium/high GDP country and visa restrictions are normally based on security or economic risks. Both seem somewhat unlikely in this case. With a population of >20 million, a reasonable size and quality market for TAT. Mind you, would probably <deleted> off the Chinese if Taiwan got a better visa status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Boycott. If it hits the news world wide, the current Thai government faster than a dog wanting steak from the dinner table. Boycott. Just don't go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realfunster Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, JAG said: I wonder whether the other 17 "jurisdictions" include Hong Kong and Macau? It would be interesting to know where the idea to make life that bit more difficult for the people of Taiwan came from? I checked, Hong Kong & Macau are 30 day visa on arrival, same as EU etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, realfunster said: Mind you, would probably <deleted> off the Chinese if Taiwan got a better visa status. That's got to be the main issue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, JAG said: I wonder whether the other 17 "jurisdictions" include Hong Kong and Macau? It would be interesting to know where the idea to make life that bit more difficult for the people of Taiwan came from? It is also quite interesting to wonder why Thailand is so busy in the immigration business, that is where are the ideas coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolpush Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 55 minutes ago, Pravda said: Lol, are you kidding me? Canada actually has jobs on offer, real non slavery wages and free world class healthcare. I am in Toronto right now and have 27 year old guys who chauffeur me with Uber and Lyft saying they make up to 500 bucks a day working part time. Same in Canada....get out rofl LOL, are you kidding me? Free healthcare? Let me enlighten you: there is no such thing as free anything. Hardworking Canadian taxpayers pay for that "free" healthcare. And: check out the waiting list for any kind of specialist care...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 59 minutes ago, JAG said: It would be interesting to know where the idea to make life that bit more difficult for the people of Taiwan came from? Here's a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 NO favour's shown here for the mainly Buddhist religion of the taiwanese, oh that's right they are really Chinese who appose the communist party on the mainland. No Hong kong influence allowed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, canthai55 said: Quit Whining. Same as Canada for years ... From the OP ... Individual travellers from Taiwan must provide details of their finances to obtain a tourist visa, complete a visa application and pay online before booking an appointment in Taipei to submit their passport, along with proof of onward travel and accommodation. Same for Australia . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 47 minutes ago, toolpush said: LOL, are you kidding me? Free healthcare? Let me enlighten you: there is no such thing as free anything. Hardworking Canadian taxpayers pay for that "free" healthcare. And: check out the waiting list for any kind of specialist care...... Lol... Are you kidding me x3 Next time you need a cancer treatment I'm sure you'll stay in Thailand instead of going back to mother Canada to receive a multi million treatment free of charge. Or will you be a man and die a slow and painful death in Thailand just to prove your point? Get out rotflmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigpoint Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Same in the UK for tourist visa but the biggest problem is the visa has to applied on line and is almost impossible to get the application completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddermax Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 This is Thailand kowtowing to the PRC Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Ray Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The complaint is not that Taiwanese have to show finances etc for a tourist visa, as most countries need to do this. It is that they are not on the list of visa-exempt countries which allow 30 days entry to Thailand for tourism without a visa. Most Western and other developed countries are on this list.see below 64 Countries allowed to enter Thailand under the VISA EXEMPTION RULE: Andorra Argentina (90 days) Australia Austria Bahrain Belgium Brazil (30 days and 90 days) Brunei Cambodia (14 days only) Canada Chile (90 days) Czech Republic Denmark Estonia Finland France Germany Greece Hong Kong Hungary Iceland Indonesia Ireland Israel Italy Japan Korea (30 days and 90 days) Kuwait Laos Latvia Liechtenstein Lithuania Luxembourg Macau Malaysia Maldives Mauritius Myanmar (14 days only) Monaco Mongolia Netherlands New Zealand Norway Oman Peru (30 days and 90 days) Philippines Poland Portugal Qatar Russia San Marino Singapore Slovak Republic Slovenia South Africa Spain Sweden Switzerland Turkey Ukraine United Arab Emirates United Kingdom United States Vietnam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Pravda said: So, I'm on this Tinder date with a 22 year old and she flat out tells me she is doing massages in Japan, Korea, Taiwan and some other visa free countries I forgot about. She tells me she was already arrested in Japan and deported, but no problem there are still so many countries to make money because Thailand pay is very terrible when it comes to prostitution. I let her pay for lunch and was on my way. But you passed on all that experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Thailand visa policy is inane. This administration is totally without merit, honor, intelligence, vision or competence. They are literally skinning the golden goose of tourism alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuwadeeS Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, yellowboat said: Boycott. If it hits the news world wide, the current Thai government faster than a dog wanting steak from the dinner table. Boycott. Just don't go there. Absolutely agree. A boycott from many countries around the world is the best and only solution to wake up the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Thai visa rules are not only for Taiwan: MOFA By Lin Chia-nan / Staff reporter TECHNOLOGY:The new rules also apply to holders of British, Chinese and French passports, while Taiwan was included due to its IT prowess, it said Thailand’s new requirements for electronic visas do not specifically target Taiwanese, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA) said yesterday, after Bangkok’s new rules sparked complaints. The Thailand Trade and Economic Office in Taipei on Nov. 12 announced that the new electronic visa application and payment policy would take effect on Saturday. Applicants are required to present identification documents and financial statements, and make an appointment with the office to submit their passports in person, the rules say. The Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) legislative caucus on Monday at a news conference in Taipei urged the ministry to issue a protest to Thailand over the policy. Visa application rules in the two nations are not reciprocal and President Tsai Ing-wen’s (蔡英文) New Southbound Policy has failed, the caucus said. Full story: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2019/12/04/2003726940 -- TEIPEI TIMES 2019-12-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Thailand visa policy is inane. This administration is totally without merit, honor, intelligence, vision or competence. They are literally skinning the golden goose of tourism alive. Perhaps the Taiwanese will go to other countries in the region instead. Like so many others are choosing to do as Thailand continues to make life more difficult for those who want to come and spend their money. I really think that Thais have no idea at all that they are in a competitive market. After all, they have been brainwashed from birth to believe their country is the best place on Earth so why would anyone want to go anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellee Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 hours ago, realfunster said: I checked, Hong Kong & Macau are 30 day visa on arrival, same as EU etc. Yes. Been to HK with my gf 30 days free visa but very strict ask lots of questions and onward ticket. I’m HK chinese from Canada they stopped us at the gate when we arrived, after showing the Immigration officer our tickets and spoke cantonese with him he let us through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpcjsr Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Am I the only one to smell the stink of Chinese influence here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawpanda Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The Taiwanese are so reliable and trustworthy that they don't need a visa to visit the UK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter14 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 same for all couturiers visa to Thailand are humiliating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Easy solution - get all Thai visitors to show proof of funds when they enter Taiwan!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemercer Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 There were 700,000 tourists from Taiwan to Thailand in 2018, an increase of 26% on the previous year. The increase so far this year is over 25%. So, tourism from Taiwan was a growing market - exactly what Thailand wants in these uncertain economic times. Yet, the new visa rules will kill off this promising market. So what is the story Thai Government? Do you want more tourists, except if they come from Taiwan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reargunnerph3 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Thailand is fast becoming a country to avoid. So many other countries that welcome tourists and are cheaper. Lucky for Thailand that the rich Indians are coming soon. 5555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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