giddyup Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I admit it, I have been downloading free torrents for nearly 10 years now, with no VPN, and no repercussions, so why would I be paying for something (VPN) that I don't need? Am I being naive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Nope, there is nothing that says you need to have one. If you can look away from that you are better off with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, Matzzon said: If you can look away from that you are better off with one. Tell me why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, giddyup said: Tell me why. Because it gives you a possibility to be anonymous whenever you wish. I guess you do worry and feel unsafe, due to the opening of this thread. Pretty simple logic acually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Matzzon said: I guess you do worry and feel unsafe, due to the opening of this thread. Not really, it just seems that VPN's are a popular subject and I can't really work out if I need one or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, giddyup said: Not really, it just seems that VPN's are a popular subject and I can't really work out if I need one or not. You'll know why once you get that knock on the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffy D Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 A VPN will hide your browsing but will not hide your browsing history or Torrent downloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Daffy D said: A VPN will hide your browsing but will not hide your browsing history or Torrent downloads. The first kills off the second and third points. Very confusing post, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, Daffy D said: A VPN will hide your browsing but will not hide your browsing history or Torrent downloads. What did you just post? Really??? Would you please eleborate on that and show your great knowledge? ???????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, torturedsole said: You'll know why once you get that knock on the door. 10 years, still waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, giddyup said: 10 years, still waiting. Which brings us on to the question as to why you even bothered with this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, torturedsole said: Which brings us on to the question as to why you even bothered with this thread. I'm asking for a good reason as to why I should have one, thought I already explained that. Begs the question, why are you responding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 It would appear you understand the whole concept of a vpn and what it's used for. Technically what you do, downloading torrents, is illegal. EVERY time I've tried downloading without a vpn when visiting relatives in the states I get a very nasty email (actually my relatives get it and ask me "What the hell?"). I have access to an account for U.S. cable which requires the appearance of being in the U.S. so a vpn is mandatory. You? You take a very small risk. I doubt you'll get popped for it, but the bridge players doing NOTHING illegal were busted. A vpn would be strictly for peace of mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, giddyup said: I'm asking for a good reason as to why I should have one, thought I already explained that. Begs the question, why are you responding? You're bored aren't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, torturedsole said: You're bored aren't you. What excuse do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, J Town said: You take a very small risk. That's until the Thai authorities have a token crackdown and giddyup's plastered all over the news for being a bad farang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 When you use a VPN, you disguise your location. Let's say you pick Berlin for your VPN. Your Thai ISP will see you connecting to a server in Berlin (not illegal). The torrent site and all the seeds you're leeching from will think they is communicating with a server in Berlin (you're still safe) However your Thai ISP could probably see that you are downloading some big packets of data from a server in Berlin (I don't know the implications of this) To be found guilty of something, your local IP address would need to be flagged by your Thai ISP, the torrent site and the VPN provider. VPN providers in many cases dont keep logs so that is in your favour. VPNs are good if you are using wifi that you dont trust...like at airports, cafes etc. Good for unlocking geo-locked content...eg accessing Netflix USA from Thailand. But you shouldn't use it for confidential stuff like online banking etc as the VPN co could get your passwords etc. Some VPNs slow down download speed considerably as well. And many are very secretive....so you dont know who the owners are....and who has access to your data. VPN is also for people like journalists and protesters who need to disguise their communications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, J Town said: It would appear you understand the whole concept of a vpn and what it's used for. Technically what you do, downloading torrents, is illegal. EVERY time I've tried downloading without a vpn when visiting relatives in the states I get a very nasty email (actually my relatives get it and ask me "What the hell?"). I have access to an account for U.S. cable which requires the appearance of being in the U.S. so a vpn is mandatory. You? You take a very small risk. I doubt you'll get popped for it, but the bridge players doing NOTHING illegal were busted. A vpn would be strictly for peace of mind. The bridge players were busted by local police, not sure if there is a unit that is concentrating on those who illegally download, they'd certainly have their work cut out in Thailand, but you never know I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eindhoven Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Seedbox is better than a VPN for when it comes to Torrents. VPN is for when you need to be in a different location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, torturedsole said: That's until the Thai authorities have a token crackdown and giddyup's plastered all over the news for being a bad farang. Then you can have the last laugh, until then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, giddyup said: Then you can have the last laugh, until then..... I'm not laughing in fact I have a very dry sense of humour. Think Jack D, but dryer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, giddyup said: Then you can have the last laugh, until then..... It's not the Thai authorities that you've to be concerned about. It's the producers that come thereafter wanting the big bucks in recompense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, torturedsole said: It's not the Thai authorities that you've to be concerned about. It's the producers that come thereafter wanting the big bucks in recompense. Be interested to know how often or the likelihood of that happening in Thailand. Be up for a pretty penny if it was backdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, giddyup said: Be interested to know how often or the likelihood of that happening in Thailand. Be up for a pretty penny if it was backdated. I don't concern myself with odds, I protect my interests. I use a VPN constantly with all my online activities - iPad, Mac, PC, smartphone - all constantly running VPN. If truth be told I don't download torrents but protect myself from all the other invasions of privacy and security concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 31 minutes ago, torturedsole said: It's not the Thai authorities that you've to be concerned about. It's the producers that come thereafter wanting the big bucks in recompense. not really...some years back a Hollywood studio brought some charges against people who downloaded an oscar screener....the expected damages were in hundreds of thousands...the judge asked the defendants to cough up the price of a cinema ticket...IMO a great and fair judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 VPN will hide your location Want security ? Use PGP https://www.openpgp.org/ With the TOR browser https://www.torproject.org/ And a good VPN https://nordvpn.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: not really...some years back a Hollywood studio brought some charges against people who downloaded an oscar screener....the expected damages were in hundreds of thousands...the judge asked the defendants to cough up the price of a cinema ticket...IMO a great and fair judge. Fantastic but not always the case. Rather than leave myself open to security concerns I run a VPN for multiple reasons. I do not download torrents but I could with little chance of recrimination. https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/917847/The-Pirate-Bay-Torrent-Warning-Download-UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallywag Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, giddyup said: Not really, it just seems that VPN's are a popular subject and I can't really work out if I need one or not. I cannot access my U.S. online banking or Social security website without a VPN. I also use it here on ThaiVisa, even though I try not to say anything derogatory about Thailand or the government. I also use it to download my favorite television shows from torrent sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I keep a free VPN for occasional use I case a website won't let me connect from my location. I just used it. slow and laggy....altho it was free....the paid ones perform better Im told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: just used it. slow and laggy....altho it was free It's free for a very particular reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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