Sujo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, J Town said: Yes, they did. And yet there doesnt need to be one. A fact trump supporters cannot grasp. No surprise though, oblivious to facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Tounge Thaied said: I agree... there is no crime. But the way I read the impeachment process, they don't require a crime to impeach. And this is precisely, IMO, the avenue that is being taken for purely political reasons. A dog and pony show in the critical moments of the next elections cycle. Ultimately, this will play out in a show trial in the Senate, for which a 2/3 majority to act on impeachment will not be reached. It's high stakes now and will be MSM ratings gold for the republicans, as they will now have the opportunity to subpeona witness on their side of this ^(&*( show. Both sides can get witnesses. But its not as easy as just calling them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tounge Thaied Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sujo said: Both sides can get witnesses. But its not as easy as just calling them. Ultimately, this is all political theater for the dumbed down masses who still vote. They are all crooks, in a crooked system. It's fun to watch from a distance however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, Tounge Thaied said: there is no crime. Yes, there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 26 minutes ago, Tounge Thaied said: Ultimately, this is all political theater for the dumbed down masses who still vote. They are all crooks, in a crooked system. It's fun to watch from a distance however. Finally you've written something that actually makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Tounge Thaied said: I agree... there is no crime. But the way I read the impeachment process, they don't require a crime to impeach. And this is precisely, IMO, the avenue that is being taken for purely political reasons. A dog and pony show in the critical moments of the next elections cycle. Ultimately, this will play out in a show trial in the Senate, for which a 2/3 majority to act on impeachment will not be reached. It's high stakes now and will be MSM ratings gold for the republicans, as they will now have the opportunity to subpeona witness on their side of this ^(&*( show. If it actually goes to trial. As I understand it, the Senate could just vote to dismiss. That said, I think that if the left doesn’t have a few strong hole-cards left to play, the trial only hurts them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, RideJocky said: If it actually goes to trial. As I understand it, the Senate could just vote to dismiss. 'Dead in the water' comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, JHolmesJr said: 'Dead in the water' comes to mind. Maybe or maybe not. Still the trial will do nothing good for his 2020 election chances besides putting some Rep senators in perilous positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Eric Loh said: Still the trial will do nothing good for his 2020 election chances Finally, the real reason for this farce surfaces.....btw, the American people are wise to this. Partisan politics. But his approval ratings have risen since the sham gathered steam. And people saw how weak the case is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: Finally, the real reason for this farce surfaces.....btw, the American people are wise to this. Partisan politics. But his approval ratings have risen since the sham gathered steam. And people saw how weak the case is. 8 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: But his approval ratings have risen since the sham gathered steam. And people saw how weak the case is. Making things up again? His approval ratings are still pretty much at the same dismal level they've been at for a long time: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: Finally, the real reason for this farce surfaces.....btw, the American people are wise to this. Partisan politics. But his approval ratings have risen since the sham gathered steam. And people saw how weak the case is. His approval or rather his disapproval ratings is worse than all previous past President and even OMG Nixon. Is your poll from discredited Rasmussen. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Making things up again? His approval ratings are still pretty much at the same dismal level they've been at for a long time: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo is project 5/38 the new oracle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: is project 5/38 the new oracle? Not all that new, and yes it's a good source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: is project 5/38 the new oracle? You're confused, This isn't about being an oracle. Oracles are about predicting the future. This is about your claims on recent polling. In other words, it's about the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, bristolboy said: You're confused, This isn't about being an oracle. Oracles are about predicting the future. This is about your claims on recent polling. In other words, it's about the past. Isn't this organ (project five thirty eight) owned by ABC....a rabidly anti trump organisation that has been called out for blatant fake news in the past....I remember an instance when they took a clip shot on some shooting range in the US and presented it as conclusive proof of hostilities triggered by Trump's decision to pull out of syria? I cant put any sort of faith in an organisation like this....it seems to be part of the "RESISTANCE" so very valuable to the Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, JHolmesJr said: Finally, the real reason for this farce surfaces.....btw, the American people are wise to this. Partisan politics. But his approval ratings have risen since the sham gathered steam. And people saw how weak the case is. Bit like the real reason trump wanted ukraine to announce an investigation in biden. Perhaps if trump had simply asked his own agencies to do it he wouldnt be in the mess hes in now. Hes certainly no stable genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, JHolmesJr said: Finally, the real reason for this farce surfaces.....btw, the American people are wise to this. Partisan politics. But his approval ratings have risen since the sham gathered steam. And people saw how weak the case is. So why are you constantly complaining about it if its helping trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, Sujo said: So why are you constantly complaining about it if its helping trump? Guaranteed you won't get a logical answer to that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDeadSenter Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Guaranteed you won't get a logical answer to that one! 1) attempting to impeach an elected President for no reason at all other than you are still triggered because your preferred candidate lost sets a terrible precedent. 2)Trump has done more than the last dozen Presidents combined to improve the lives and fortunes of Americans. He could have likely achieved even more if it weren't for the constant muck flinging by the left. I hope for a better behaved and more sane opposition during his 2nd term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, TopDeadSenter said: 15 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Guaranteed you won't get a logical answer to that one! 1) attempting to impeach an elected President for no reason at all other than you are still triggered because your preferred candidate lost sets a terrible precedent. 2)Trump has done more than the last dozen Presidents combined to improve the lives and fortunes of Americans. He could have likely achieved even more if it weren't for the constant muck flinging by the left. I hope for a better behaved and more sane opposition during his 2nd term. Jingthing, you were absolutely right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Sujo said: So why are you constantly complaining about it if its helping trump? why are you constantly complaining about Trump if you know he's going to be impeached, disgraced, removed from office and lose the 2020 election to some stable genius (Biden) from the Democrat party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, JHolmesJr said: Isn't this organ (project five thirty eight) owned by ABC....a rabidly anti trump organisation that has been called out for blatant fake news in the past....I remember an instance when they took a clip shot on some shooting range in the US and presented it as conclusive proof of hostilities triggered by Trump's decision to pull out of syria? I cant put any sort of faith in an organisation like this....it seems to be part of the "RESISTANCE" so very valuable to the Dems. Right. Track records count for nothing. Even though their methodology is open. In the midterms they called it exactly right in terms of House seats gained by Democrats and Senate seats gained by Republicans. Resorting to conspiracy theory is a cheap and dishonest way to avoid facing reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobaa01 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: why are you constantly complaining about Trump if you know he's going to be impeached, disgraced, removed from office and lose the 2020 election to some stable genius (Biden) from the Democrat party? the dems waiting for their saviour the great, great incapable hillary. wbr roobaa01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, roobaa01 said: the dems waiting for their saviour the great, great incapable hillary. wbr roobaa01 No we're not. That is a pipe dream of the 45 cult of personality though. Bengazi! Emails! They can't get enough of that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 2:02 PM, Sujo said: No, biden is irrelevant to what trump is accused of doing. What evidence can biden give relating to this investigation? i kind of understand how trump got elected. There are lots of his supporters that, despite having facts told to them, continue to spout alternative facts. Of course it's fair 3 Dem legal experts and 1 GOP (and even he was a Dem). Completely FAIR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Sujo said: So why are you constantly complaining about it if its helping trump? Because the GOP were very fair to Clinton during his process and 'prayerful' Nancy is not. Roll on the Senate!!! let Biden explain how his disgraced son, booted out of the Navy, get's a job worth millions AND admits without his name he would never have got it. Biden withdrew aid to blackmail the Ukraine's to sack the prosecutor - what part of that do you not understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, BobBKK said: Of course it's fair 3 Dem legal experts and 1 GOP (and even he was a Dem). Completely FAIR. Cry me a river. Complaining about House rules that the the then-Republicans majority adopted in 2015. ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Cry me a river. Complaining about House rules that the the then-Republicans majority adopted in 2015. ???????????? The House rules said loaded up with Dems? no witnesses? no counsel? don't think so. The American people are not stupid so the Dems can have fun now as they step into the GOP Senate trap. I'm so going to enjoy this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, BobBKK said: The House rules said loaded up with Dems? no witnesses? no counsel? don't think so. The American people are not stupid so the Dems can have fun now as they step into the GOP Senate trap. I'm so going to enjoy this. Dems played by the Reps approved rules. You can’t really complain when the house voted 232-196 for the impeachment rules. Too bad that Trump caused the Reps to lose the house majority. So sad for the bunch of sore losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 41 minutes ago, BobBKK said: Because the GOP were very fair to Clinton during his process and 'prayerful' Nancy is not. Roll on the Senate!!! let Biden explain how his disgraced son, booted out of the Navy, get's a job worth millions AND admits without his name he would never have got it. Biden withdrew aid to blackmail the Ukraine's to sack the prosecutor - what part of that do you not understand? I don't think they even need to call the Bidens. Lindsey is determined not to take a page from the Dem playbook and turn this dead serious event into a circus of flippantry (my word). He won't call Schiff either. You dont need them. All you need is to play clips of the hearsay witnesses. And Sondland saying everything he said he presumed... I do think they need to get this whistleblower on the stand tho....he's a treasonous SOB who needs to be dissected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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