"Shopping centers for high spending Chinese" key driver in Bangkok's #2 world city place

[webfact]

"Shopping centers for high spending Chinese" key driver in Bangkok's #2 world city place

 

Thai caption: No 2 in the world

 

Bangkok is once again expected to retain its number two in the world for visitors status on the Euromonitor ranking of 100 city destinations. 

 

The global market research group produces the figures each year - for six years Hong Kong has been number one and Bangkok number two. Hong Kong has retained the top spot despite political unrest. 

 

Bangkok sees a rise in visitors of 6.9% compared to last year, said Sanook who published a list comparing last year and this ahead of the final confirmation of the results. 

 

They said that Bangkok's success was especially driven by high spending Chinese tourists visiting department stores such as the recently opened Icon Siam, the latest jewel in the capital's shopping crown. 

 

Health tourism and promotions such as "Amazing Thailand Go Local" were also propelling growth.

 

Here are the Sanook figures with visitors from last year first then 2019.

 

1. Hong Kong : 29,262,700 / 26,716,800
2. Bangkok : 24,177,500 / 25,847,800
3. London: 19,233,000 / 19,559,900
4. Macau : 18,931,400 / 20,637,100
5. Singapore : 18,551,200 / 19,760,800
6. Paris: 17,560,200 / 19,087,900
7. Dubai: 15,920,700 / 16,328,300
8. New York : 13,600,000 / 14,010,000
9. Kuala Lumpur: 13,434,300 / 14,072,400
10. Istanbul: 13,433,000 / 14,715,900

 

Elsewhere on the internet Bloomberg indicated that New York was likely to lose its number eight spot and be replaced by New Delhi, India in the top ten, notes Thaivisa. London was likely to drop to fifth according to that media. 

 

 

Source: Sanook

 

 

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[FritsSikkink]

Oh dear, not good news for the doomsayers and people fleeing to other Asian countries because they can't afford it here anymore. Better start shouting "fake news" because especially that high spending Chinese tourist part can be hurtful.

[sunnyboy2018]

New York replaced by Dehli and shopping malls! Ha Ha. This is indicative of culturally bankrupt visitors and kind of poll which measures them.

[jackdd]

5 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Oh dear, not good news for the doomsayers and people fleeing to other Asian countries because they can't afford it here anymore. Better start shouting "fake news" because especially that high spending Chinese tourist part can be hurtful.

As pointed out before: The average Chinese might spend more per day than the average western tourist (do we know where these numbers come from?), but on average the western tourist stays longer than the Chinese tourist. So when looking at the average spending per visit, western tourists spend more. Which explains why the tourist arrival numbers can be up but the hotels are empty.

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, jackdd said:

As pointed out before: The average Chinese might spend more per day than the average western tourist (do we know where these numbers come from?), but on average the western tourist stays longer than the Chinese tourist. So when looking at the average spending per visit, western tourists spend more. Which explains why the tourist arrival numbers can be up but the hotels are empty.

You forget there are way more Chinese coming than Westerners, so in total they spend way more too.

[jackdd]

2 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

You forget there are way more Chinese coming than Westerners, so in total they spend way more too.

There aren't way more Chinese than western tourists, only slightly more. But western tourists spend about 50% more per visit. Thailand gets more money from western tourists than from Chinese, even when looking at the absolute numbers.

[RichardColeman]

Come to Bangkok - recorded as twice. Come to London - only count as once - claim asylum, never leave

[FritsSikkink]

7 hours ago, jackdd said:

There aren't way more Chinese than western tourists, only slightly more. But western tourists spend about 50% more per visit. Thailand gets more money from western tourists than from Chinese, even when looking at the absolute numbers.

Absolute nonsense:

 

http://www.thaiwebsites.com/tourism-income-Thailand.asp

[dotpoom]

"high spending Chinese"

 Every massage lady I ever met tell me they never leave a tip ?

 

 

[Emdog]

Paris was #1 in 1788 for high spenders and fashionistas

[jackdd]

35 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Absolute nonsense:

 

http://www.thaiwebsites.com/tourism-income-Thailand.asp

You say "absolute nonsense" but post a link which confirms what i said. Are you confused?

[Destiny1990]

I mostly encounter these shopping Chinese at the 7/11.

[30la]

Most of the items that are offered in Thailand can also be found in China at lower prices!

[justin case]

there are no shopping malls in china that chinese have to come to shopping malls here ?

 

[maxcorrigan]

10 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Come to Bangkok - recorded as twice. Come to London - only count as once - claim asylum, never leave

Come to London head of family counted as one, wife and numerous kids not counted especially when claiming asylum!

[Vacuum]

3 hours ago, dotpoom said:

"high spending Chinese"

 Every massage lady I ever met tell me they never leave a tip ?

 

 

Why should they? Tipping is not customary in China, nor in Thailand.

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, jackdd said:

You say "absolute nonsense" but post a link which confirms what i said. Are you confused?

No, apparently you have a problem reading graphs. There are:

• way more Chinese than Westerners
• the Chinese spend more per day
• the Chinese stay about 50% shorter

Your comment that Westerners spend more in total, is utter nonsense. These graphs are 2 years old and in the meantime there are less Westerners, more Chinese and the Chinese have upped their spending.

[jackdd]

2 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

No, apparently you have a problem reading graphs. There are:

• way more Chinese than Westerners
• the Chinese spend more per day
• the Chinese stay about 50% shorter

Your comment that Westerners spend more in total, is utter nonsense.

From the link which you posted:

China = 15.3 million

Western (Europe + America + Oceania) = 19 million

So as we can see, according to your source, western people spend more than Chinese people.

Apparently you have a problem reading graphs.

 

[FritsSikkink]

3 minutes ago, jackdd said:

From the link which you posted:

China = 15.3 million

Western (Europe + America + Oceania) = 19 million

So as we can see, according to your source, western people spend more than Chinese people.

Apparently you have a problem reading graphs.

 

Oceania isn't Western at all, it is in the South. 

It says Americas, which is North and South America, so not all Western.

Europa, is not completely Western.

 

So your graphs reading isn't too bad, your geography is.

[jackdd]

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

Oceania isn't Western at all, it is in the South. 

It says Americas, which is North and South America, so not all Western.

Europa, is not completely Western.

 

So your graphs reading isn't too bad, your geography is.

You are wrong again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

[thurien]

2 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

I mostly encounter these shopping Chinese at the 7/11.

 

don't forget that 7/11 in TH is regarded as being a hi-so outlet: highest prices for the smallest packaging units

[Brunolem]

47 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Oceania isn't Western at all, it is in the South. 

It says Americas, which is North and South America, so not all Western.

Europa, is not completely Western.

 

So your graphs reading isn't too bad, your geography is.

He is right because people living on the American continent are Westerners, save for the few remaining indigeneous (we don't see much of them in Thailand), and Oceania is essentially Australia and New Zealand, again populated with Westerners, and a few remaining indigeneous. 

 

Thus it is fair to count them all as Western visitors... 

[Brunolem]

4 hours ago, Emdog said:

Paris was #1 in 1788 for high spenders and fashionistas

And in 52 BC, Paris then named Lutetia was number 2, right behind Rome... 

[Brunolem]

2 hours ago, justin case said:

there are no shopping malls in china that chinese have to come to shopping malls here ?

 

They have, but they don't sell T-shirts with a printed image of a tuk tuk, or quotes such as "no money no honey" or "I am with stupid". 

 

Having said that, I wonder WHERE the administration peddling these stats gets its numbers from. 

 

I mean, when I buy something, nobody ever ask for my nationality, and the seller is not writing on some piece of paper "sold to a Westerner for 250 baht"!

 

The vast majority of transactions leave absolutely no trace of who was involved... 

[FritsSikkink]

14 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

He is right because people living on the American continent are Westerners, save for the few remaining indigeneous (we don't see much of them in Thailand), and Oceania is essentially Australia and New Zealand, again populated with Westerners, and a few remaining indigeneous. 

 

Thus it is fair to count them all as Western visitors... 

Brazilians are Westerners?

[Caldera]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

Oceania isn't Western at all, it is in the South. 

It says Americas, which is North and South America, so not all Western.

Europa, is not completely Western.

 

So your graphs reading isn't too bad, your geography is.

You make no sense whatsoever.

 

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, jackdd said:

You are wrong again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

westerner

NOUN

westerners (plural noun)

1. a native or inhabitant of the west, especially of western Europe or North America.

[hotchilli]

23 hours ago, webfact said:

They said that Bangkok's success was especially driven by high spending Chinese tourists visiting department stores such as the recently opened Icon Siam, the latest jewel in the capital's shopping crown. 

And what happens when the crown slips... empty malls that the average Thai cannot afford to shop in!

[peter14]

Pure fake news... who write those <deleted> articles.. bankoko post and news are trying to write positive news.. its propaganda 

[madmen]

7 minutes ago, peter14 said:

Pure fake news... who write those <deleted> articles.. bankoko post and news are trying to write positive news.. its propaganda 

TV mindset = If its positive its Propaganda

Negative = They nailed it !!! And we told you so ! ????