ParkerN Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 3 hours ago, faraday said: What an insult....! Later, the gubbermint will be able to crow that they: "Raised wages, to take people further away from poverty" I feel genuinely sorry for the Thai people, who have to suffer this indignaty. Allow me to be a tad less sympathetic. A population gets the government it deserves. No point crying about it later... Every Thai will naturally be delighted that Prayuth and those he serves are doing very nicely thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 52 minutes ago, ParkerN said: Allow me to be a tad less sympathetic. A population gets the government it deserves. No point crying about it later... Every Thai will naturally be delighted that Prayuth and those he serves are doing very nicely thank you. They deserve what they get....? Really....? So, all the mistreatment, suppression & etc, of people in the world, is, in your opinion, 'there fault'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 It amazes me that the 6 baht isn't even across the board with most provinces only seeing a 5 baht increase. The hordes will be flocking to Phuket and the like for that extra baht! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 5 hours ago, GalaxyMan said: It's a joke and an insult. 5-6 baht increase per day! What a shameful act. Have you ever worked or owned a business in Thailand? At least half the workforce are not even worth half the minimum wage, if anything they costing you money with their stupidity and laziness. Productive and useful employees get way above minimum wage and this increase would not apply to them. However in times of high prices and drop in exports probably yet another dumb move that will push prices even higher and put more out of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 58 minutes ago, faraday said: They deserve what they get....? Really....? So, all the mistreatment, suppression & etc, of people in the world, is, in your opinion, 'there fault'? What mistreatment and suppression? As i said earlier, open up a business and employ unskilled minimum wage staff and see how well you will do, or i should say how much you will lose on daily basis. Let me paint a small picture for you in a few words. Business employs someone new, spends first month on training them and taking loss for their mistakes, while paying them a wage and then after 1 month they quit. rinse and repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 6 hours ago, nev said: 6 baht goes nowhere it should be at least 20bat increase. Whilst I applaud the increase in minimum pay, it's going to have a heavy toll on their export market which is already under immense pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin612 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 7-11 will raise the grocery prices too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 7 hours ago, nev said: 6 baht goes nowhere it should be at least 20bat increase. many arent worth employing at 20 baht a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, BestB said: Have you ever worked or owned a business in Thailand? At least half the workforce are not even worth half the minimum wage, if anything they costing you money with their stupidity and laziness. Productive and useful employees get way above minimum wage and this increase would not apply to them. However in times of high prices and drop in exports probably yet another dumb move that will push prices even higher and put more out of work. finally some common sense in a world full of idiots who know nothing of Thai employees and their work ethics (oxymoron) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, BestB said: What mistreatment and suppression? As i said earlier, open up a business and employ unskilled minimum wage staff and see how well you will do, or i should say how much you will lose on daily basis. Let me paint a small picture for you in a few words. Business employs someone new, spends first month on training them and taking loss for their mistakes, while paying them a wage and then after 1 month they quit. rinse and repeat and NEVER EVER tell you they'll be leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Chazar said: and NEVER EVER tell you they ill be leaving They are shy, not shy to collect the money for doing nothing but shy to open their mouth and give a notice ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chazar said: finally some common sense in a world full of idiots who know nothing of Thai employees and their work ethics (oxymoron) Stop it, you making me blush???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Bad move by the government and it is going to hurt more businesses and buyers again. Normally now factory give higher than that wage to keep employees, but when they hear this they will want more than what they get over the wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Just now, holy cow cm said: Bad move by the government and it is going to hurt more businesses and buyers again. Normally now factory give higher than that wage to keep employees, but when they hear this they will want more than what they get over the wage. Do think think 5-6 baht will make all that much difference to staff wanting payrise, but i do see price rise to cover the increase.and prices will rise will more than 5 baht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Maybe Thai people, because they have rubbish wages, work long hours, & are generally not valued, see no reason to be loyal or hard working.....? Perhaps they see how unfair the system is here, how there is a very sharp divide between rich & poor, & that their lives will never improve financially? And to further add to comment #31..... People do not get the government they deserve -but perhaps you think that 'our' blessed leader (all genuflect) was democratically elected....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron jeremy Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 8 hours ago, BestB said: What mistreatment and suppression? As i said earlier, open up a business and employ unskilled minimum wage staff and see how well you will do, or i should say how much you will lose on daily basis. Let me paint a small picture for you in a few words. Business employs someone new, spends first month on training them and taking loss for their mistakes, while paying them a wage and then after 1 month they quit. rinse and repeat I feel for you and anyone trying to run a business there. Definitely not easy to find quality help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, faraday said: Maybe Thai people, because they have rubbish wages, work long hours, & are generally not valued, see no reason to be loyal or hard working.....? Perhaps they see how unfair the system is here, how there is a very sharp divide between rich & poor, & that their lives will never improve financially? And to further add to comment #31..... People do not get the government they deserve -but perhaps you think that 'our' blessed leader (all genuflect) was democratically elected....? So zero experience working in Thailand or with Thai ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, BestB said: So zero experience working in Thailand or with Thai ? No, not at all. You think my opinions & observations are invalid then? I offered some explanations, just because I didn't 'tar them all with the same brush' it appears as if you think all Thai people, are essentially unreliable. Would you be motivated, reliable & happy, if you were paid rubbish wages, while people higher up the scale have it better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agood1963 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I do not think that rise will pay thai peoples debts off . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 An off topic deflection post about Australia has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, faraday said: No, not at all. You think my opinions & observations are invalid then? I offered some explanations, just because I didn't 'tar them all with the same brush' it appears as if you think all Thai people, are essentially unreliable. Would you be motivated, reliable & happy, if you were paid rubbish wages, while people higher up the scale have it better? To answer your first paragraph , yes To answer your last paragraph. When I started my working career I was paid minimum wage . I worked my ass off , over time and all else possible to move up in life and get more skills. i use to work 12-14 hour days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 In all honesty, a 6 baht increase to all the staff at Central on their phones all day seems a bit excessive ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whip Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Should be a hourly increase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Whip said: Should be a hourly increase If it was hourly paid. Most businesses will be able to cut 8-9 hours of daily salary for not working but either sleeping or playing on the phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 18 hours ago, webfact said: The National Wage Committee announced on Friday (December 6) that it will raise the minimum wage by Bt6 for nine provinces and Bt5 for the rest of Thailand, Suthi Sukosol, Permanent Secretary of Labour, said. WOW! Look forward to a spate of new Honda Clicks on the road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
law ling Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Well I suppose the Thai authorities know what's best ... In related news: Today my McDonalds b/fast (South Pattaya) (without coffee) increased to B95 from B88 - a near 10% increase. Still in shock - can't talk about the coffee price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yme Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 18 hours ago, Pattaya46 said: 6 baht is about 2%. Not so bad for a wage increase. A 7% increase would have a huge bad impact on many businesses ! Then they should shut down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, law ling said: Well I suppose the Thai authorities know what's best ... In related news: Today my McDonalds b/fast (South Pattaya) (without coffee) increased to B95 from B88 - a near 10% increase. Still in shock - can't talk about the coffee price. Hope you waited for your change from 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Minimum wages messes uo economy Pushes inflation up. People just start charging more Also i take it this applies to all that work in the goverment to garbage men road workers All levels of government labour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, BigC said: Minimum wages messes uo economy Any published empirical research? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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