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Fears grow about Sydney after Australia fires merge into giant blaze

By Colin Packham, Byron Kaye

 

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NSW Rural Fire Service crews protect properties on Waratah Road and Kelyknack Road as the Three Mile fire approaches Mangrove Mountain, Australia, December 5, 2019. AAP Image/Dan Himbrechts/via REUTERS

 

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Bushfires fanned by winds combined into a single giant blaze north of Sydney late on Friday, blanketing Australia’s biggest city in hazardous smoke, causing weekend sports games to be canceled and prompting calls for outdoor workers to stay home.

 

Wildfire has killed at least four people and destroyed more than 680 homes across eastern Australia since the start of November, months earlier than the usual summer bushfire season, with the authorities blaming an extended drought, strong wind and suspected arson.

 

Smoke and flying ash has lingered over Sydney for most of the past week, turning the daytime sky orange, obscuring visibility and prompting commuters to wear breathing masks. Satellite images spread on social media showed the smoke spreading across the Tasman Sea to New Zealand, 2,000 kilometers (1,240 miles) away.

 

“The massive #NSW fires are in some cases just too big to put out at the moment,” wrote the Australian Bureau of Meteorology in a post on its official Twitter account.

 

Sydney is the capital city in New South Wales state.

 

The New South Wales Rural Fire Service (RFS) said in a tweet that “a number of fires in the Hawkesbury, Hunter and Central Coast areas have now joined”. The tweet included a map showing 10 separate fires connecting about 50 kilometers north of metropolitan Sydney.

 

The total area burnt by those fires was around 335,000 hectares, or 830,000 acres, the RFS added.

 

RFS Commissioner Shane Fitzsimmons said authorities were particularly concerned the fires may spread east.

 

“They have the potential or are expected to spread further east, which unfortunately is getting into more populated areas, villages, communities, isolated rural areas, and other farming practices and businesses throughout the region,” Fitzsimmons told reporters in Sydney.

 

About 500 homes in coastal communities around 350 kilometers south of Sydney had lost electricity to fire and repair workers were unable to start restoring power until the area was declared safe, energy provider Endeavour Energy said in a tweet. “Affected customers should consider alternative accommodation until their power is back.”

 

Sporting body Cricket NSW urged clubs to consider cancelling weekend games due to poor air quality.

 

“We appreciate this may mean some finals are not played and players may be disappointed, however the welfare of our cricket communities is our number one priority,” Cricket NSW CEO Lee Germo said in a statement.

 

Australia’s worst bushfires on record destroyed thousands of homes in Victoria state in February 2009, killing 173 people and injuring 414 more.

 

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One hopes that the Australian government is doing everything humanly possible to encourage the fight against global warming.  Not a quick fix for sure but the trajectory of this problem leads to a poor prognosis for the future of the country.

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58 minutes ago, chilli42 said:

One hopes that the Australian government is doing everything humanly possible to encourage the fight against global warming.  Not a quick fix for sure but the trajectory of this problem leads to a poor prognosis for the future of the country.

Please provide evidence this was a result of global warming, as opposed to the usual fires that have always occurred.  At least three on this same scale since 1994 that I can remember.

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54 minutes ago, Mick501 said:

Please provide evidence this was a result of global warming, as opposed to the usual fires that have always occurred.  At least three on this same scale since 1994 that I can remember.

At this time of year? Not exactly bushfire season, is it?

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44 minutes ago, Mick501 said:

You couldn't be more wrong if you were trying to be wrong.  

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_bushfire_seasons

If you bothered to read what you posted you would note this:

"Each season begins in June (the beginning of the Australian winter) and runs through the following May (the end of the Australian autumn)."

In other words, the whole year. No time of year it's more likely than others?

 

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41 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

If you bothered to read what you posted you would note this:

"Each season begins in June (the beginning of the Australian winter) and runs through the following May (the end of the Australian autumn)."

In other words, the whole year. No time of year it's more likely than others?

 

You wanted evidence.  There it is.  It's year round, and it has always been so.  I've lived on the edge on bushfire zones and there are occasional "catastrophic" warnings in winter.  Probably fair to say fires more typically occur in summer (which it is now).  Many species of trees, in particular eucalypts, actual rely on fires to regenerate.  The fires seem to be reasonably cyclical.  For as long as I can remember, people in bush land areas make comments such as, "we haven't had a fire in years.  We are due."

 

I suggest it is alarmism to attribute these things to climate change, and does the whole climate change industry a great disservice.  I've provided evidence that it has gone on forever, which needs to be refuted if this is to be attributed to climate change, does it's not?

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48 minutes ago, Mick501 said:

You wanted evidence.  There it is.  It's year round, and it has always been so.  I've lived on the edge on bushfire zones and there are occasional "catastrophic" warnings in winter.  Probably fair to say fires more typically occur in summer (which it is now).  Many species of trees, in particular eucalypts, actual rely on fires to regenerate.  The fires seem to be reasonably cyclical.  For as long as I can remember, people in bush land areas make comments such as, "we haven't had a fire in years.  We are due."

 

I suggest it is alarmism to attribute these things to climate change, and does the whole climate change industry a great disservice.  I've provided evidence that it has gone on forever, which needs to be refuted if this is to be attributed to climate change, does it's not?

2019's Fire Season Is Already NSW's Worst -- And It's Barely Begun

The RFS told 10 daily that already -- before summer even starts -- the 2019/20 bushfire season could be the worst on record in NSW, with those spring statistics from the first 50 days alone eclipsing damage wrought by fires in entire years in the past...

The fire service couldn't immediately share detailed breakdowns for every single year on record. However, statistics of "seasons with prominent area burnt or houses lost" provided to 10 daily showed 2019 outstripped damage and devastation wrought in some of the biggest years on record, back to 1993-94.

https://10daily.com.au/news/australia/a191119qolif/2019s-fire-season-is-already-nsws-worst-and-its-barely-started-20191121

 

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4 hours ago, chilli42 said:

One hopes that the Australian government is doing everything humanly possible to encourage the fight against global warming.  Not a quick fix for sure but the trajectory of this problem leads to a poor prognosis for the future of the country.

What Global warming there's no such thing. It's an ice age phenomena happens about every few hundred Thousand years .Goes from cold to hot then changes from hot to cold. ????

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5 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

2019's Fire Season Is Already NSW's Worst -- And It's Barely Begun

The RFS told 10 daily that already -- before summer even starts -- the 2019/20 bushfire season could be the worst on record in NSW, with those spring statistics from the first 50 days alone eclipsing damage wrought by fires in entire years in the past...

The fire service couldn't immediately share detailed breakdowns for every single year on record. However, statistics of "seasons with prominent area burnt or houses lost" provided to 10 daily showed 2019 outstripped damage and devastation wrought in some of the biggest years on record, back to 1993-94.

https://10daily.com.au/news/australia/a191119qolif/2019s-fire-season-is-already-nsws-worst-and-its-barely-started-20191121

 

"Coul" be the worst on record, and "could not provide detailed breakdowns" don't cause you to question the opinion of this one person?   Matter for yourself I guess.   In the meantime, I'll attribute these fires to hot air produced by climate alarmists.

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“The Alarmists” again. sounds a lot like blaming local northern smoke on “uneducated farmers” and arsonists.

 

well, waiting for peer reviewed science articles to definitively link this to “climate change”.... which is now only a political agenda because politically and socially it is way too late for us to do anything to scale, in time.... is like waiting for a CPA or chartered accountant to mention the words “going concern” in a auditors report before deciding maybe you should sell the stock or even short it.  in spades.  Dr. Mann has even coined a term for this, “scientific reticence”.

 

get ready for a probable return of a positive ENSO in 2021.     combine that with Mandy Freund et. al. In Nat Geoscience, May 2019, on elevated Central Pacific El Niño events, and not even the girlie men will continue to rant about “alarmists”.  that’s what the guys and gals in Potsdam with a long range model on this are now predicting.

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2 hours ago, digger70 said:

What Global warming there's no such thing. It's an ice age phenomena happens about every few hundred Thousand years .Goes from cold to hot then changes from hot to cold. ????

Nonsense. For the past 5000 years the average global temperature has been on a slight declining trend on average All of a sudden, as climatologist predicted, the temperature is rising at a rate that's unprecedented in at least the past 2000 years. So it's not just that the average temperature is rising, but that it's rising quickly in comparison to how temperatures have changed in the past. What denialists don't seem able to grasp is the concept of rate.

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2 hours ago, Mick501 said:

"Coul" be the worst on record, and "could not provide detailed breakdowns" don't cause you to question the opinion of this one person?   Matter for yourself I guess.   In the meantime, I'll attribute these fires to hot air produced by climate alarmists.

"with those spring statistics from the first 50 days alone eclipsing damage wrought by fires in entire years in the past..."

convenient how you miss things. Or misunderstand. Is the RSF just one person? Must be Superman.

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15 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Nonsense. For the past 5000 years the average global temperature has been on a slight declining trend on average All of a sudden, as climatologist predicted, the temperature is rising at a rate that's unprecedented in at least the past 2000 years. So it's not just that the average temperature is rising, but that it's rising quickly in comparison to how temperatures have changed in the past. What denialists don't seem able to grasp is the concept of rate.

What's the difference The Ice Age phenomenon doesn't have an axact time frame or pattern. I would say Nonsense to you're post. :thumbsup:

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Fires are from high winds and dry conditions from a Sudden Stratospheric Warming event over Antarctica that scientists agree has nothing to do with "Climate Change"

 

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/climate-change/rare-antarctica-warming-to-trigger-heatwaves-fires-in-australia-67156

 

Same thing happened in 2002 with some very dry conditions and bush fires the following years. Please no more Climate Change leftie propaganda

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9 minutes ago, Jdiddy said:

Fires are from high winds and dry conditions from a Sudden Stratospheric Warming event over Antarctica that scientists agree has nothing to do with "Climate Change"

 

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/climate-change/rare-antarctica-warming-to-trigger-heatwaves-fires-in-australia-67156

 

Same thing happened in 2002 with some very dry conditions and bush fires the following years. Please no more Climate Change leftie propaganda

From the same article

"While January 2019 was the hottest for Australia, the continent also recorded the fourth-driest January–September on record and the driest since 1965. 

Rainfall in September was very much below average for most of Australia. Rainfall was fourth-lowest on record for Australia as a whole in the last 120 years."

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