canuckamuck Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 A 190 million dollar win would have been universe changing for old Vern. One can see the motivation, I am sure he had folks convincing him he could win. But it's not easy to steal the big dogs bone, and if common sense was in play Vern would have left it alone. It is amazing what he found to do with his hero status. Just had to hold his tongue for a few minutes. As for Musk, well he defended himself and his team, but he, like Vern, should have chosen his words better. Elon on the other hand, could afford to be flippant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, sirineou said: He had a golden opportunity and he squandered when he went after the quick payoff. After Musk apologised he should have held a press conference , said he was also sorry so telling Musk to stick it. Emotions were running high , bla bla bla, I would like to meet Musk and talk man to man, They mee have lunch, a couple of bears and ar buddies, , come out proclaim water under the bridge. Does not hurt to have a friend like musk IMO. What makes you think Musk would have any interest in meeting him other than in court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Grumpy John said: "Does not hurt to have a friend like musk IMO." The only problem with that is Musk would measure friendship with what the other person can do for him.......... I am not sure what Musk measures friendship with, we are not that close. but assuming you are correct, What it would had done for Musk would had being to diffuse the situation, and I am sure that was of value to Musk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeleto Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Hahahahaha RESULT! 190 million lawsuit!!! Someone was suffering from nitrogen narcosis. I am so glad this lawsuit came back with a unanamous and resounding "NO" to such nonesence. The only winners were the lawyers! Im so glad Musk did not capitulate and took it to trial. Musk 1 Unsworth 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I think Veron asking that much in damages was crazy I don’t think he had any attorney fee think they had a deal no money unless we win anyways think the whole thing was childish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dukeleto said: Hahahahaha RESULT! 190 million lawsuit!!! Someone was suffering from nitrogen narcosis. I am so glad this lawsuit came back with a unanamous and resounding "NO" to such nonesence. The only winners were the lawyers! Im so glad Musk did not capitulate and took it to trial. Musk 1 Unsworth 0 Unsworth was, is and will be a hero, remembered long after his demise for his bravery. Musk is a grubby little PEJ who will be dismissed in history without a second thought. See what I mean about dignity? No, you probably can't even spell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, lamyai3 said: Unsworth's lawyers took the case on pro bono, so it'd just be the travel costs I guess. But yes, it's a disgraceful outcome. Do the US courts and juries not understand the gravity of the accusations Musk repeatedly made? More importantly, they look after their own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garybaldy Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 $90 million haha you can call me what the hell you like for $90 . Should have set your sights lower Verne greed was your downfall against a billionaire with limitless resources on home territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yadon Toploy Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, BritManToo said: There's a legal difference between insults and defamation. If I called you a speccy four eyed twit ...... that would clearly be an insult and not legally actionable. If I called you a pedophile (after you had just been working with children), then repeated the claims to a reporter, and hired a private detective to look for dirt on you, entirely different matter, as I would have been clearly trying to harm you, your income, and your reputation. Correct answer. As clear a case of defamation as there ever was. I wouldn't worry though, Musk will get done criminally in the Thai courts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Leopard Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, MarineEquine said: One law for the rich and another for the poor. And in the wrong state and country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtemple Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, CHdiver said: And after the verdict, the jury drove off into the sunset in there all new Tesla 3.... Do you think this is libel? You'd better hope that Elon doesn't read your accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Grown men kissing Musks backside. Christ have some self respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yadon Toploy Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, simtemple said: Do you think this is libel? You'd better hope that Elon doesn't read your accusation. Not quite. Some of jury quite possibly own Tesla vehicles. That could be argued that owning a Tesla, or having a positive experience with the brand affected their decision while members of the jury. An example of libel would be if the poster stated "Elon Musk bribed the jury to deliver a favourable verdict by purchasing them all Tesla model 3's as a reward". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHdiver Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, MasterBaker said: now that a defamation, dude Well a Pedo gets treated much harder by the law then someone who pays or gets a bribe. So I think I should be safe. I am just offended by the verdict, so it is just natural to make this assumption. So I just use the same line of defence Musky Boy did use. ☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Fex Bluse said: Vern should not have wasted his time and money. That aggressive defamation nonsense only works in undeveloped countries like Thailand. Never should have mouthed off about Musk's efforts to help either. That was my opinion at the time also but got repeatedly slagged off by some members, although not nice what Musk said Id hardly call it a life changing comment in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, rooster59 said: seeking $190 million ridiculous amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, sunnyboy2018 said: A reputation for being a peedo in the UK is a death sentence. Rubbish and shows how childish some people really are if thats what they think when anyone is accused of that..............convicted is another matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Vern may have started it, but Musk's reply was inappropriately rude. How much has Vern got to pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmrichsw Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Samui Bodoh said: This is just wrong. I know that both sides do share some blame, but labeling a guy 'Pedo' on a public forum for no good reason should not be allowed. I am a fan of Elon most of the time, but not at this time. Hey Elon! Do the right thing and cut this guy a cheque for all his attorney's fees; you are a multi-billionaire and it is (literally!) the least that you can do. I wonder if there are attorney fees, I know many so called lawyers that would be happy to get involved for the notiety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmrichsw Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, faraday said: Vern may have started it, but Musk's reply was inappropriately rude. How much has Vern got to pay? Probably nothing many low end attorneys would be happy to get there name in the act contingent upon a settlement. Vern should have keep his mouth shut. I am not a fan of Elon Musk but he did offer a solution at his expense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penicillin Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, 30la said: I did not expect anything else, a rich man always wins and everywhere! Result: lost money, lost time, lost the cause, and for what? I'm not happy that Elon Musk has won, but even in the USA the system is totally corrupt! All losers agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Up Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, MarineEquine said: One law for the rich and another for the poor. Suing for a 190 million dollar for being called a pedo is ridiculous. Vern saw dollar signs and thankfully the jury saw it what it was. Musk was wrong and should apologize and maybe buy Vern a case of beer. But suing for 190 million dollars of damages is bs greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustyhk Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 So does this mean we should all be fine if we call musk a “pedo”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Very bad decision by the jury--although the damage amount being asked for was way too high. Defamation has always been very serious but in the age of Twitter and the like, one must be made to be accountable for what one says--especially if one is famous with millions of followers. As a previous poster said, Vern will be forever branded on social media and the internet, incorrectly and unfairly, as 'pedo guy'. For that, Musk should have been held accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmrichsw Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Crustyhk said: So does this mean we should all be fine if we call musk a “pedo”? Does one person speak for all?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmrichsw Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Crustyhk said: So does this mean we should all be fine if we call musk a “pedo”? People say lots of things to each other SO WHAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, MarineEquine said: One law for the rich and another for the poor. And if you didn't already know that you can also add the word "dumb" to being poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Well that sucks for Pedo guy. Those high priced rock star american lawyers don't come cheap. Probably had no understanding that in America, ordinary people stand no chance against the wealthy. Of course his lawyer wasn't going to tell him that. They get paid no matter what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inn Between Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, BestB said: I never realised he was seeing $180 million in damages . Hardly surprising he lost maybe if he was more smart and seeking $100000-200000 he would of won but $$180 million ????? I completely agree. Going after such an absurd amount of "compensation" for supposed damages caused in such a childish situation killed any sincerity or credibility the plaintiff's case may have potentially had. I expect the plaintiff will now go after his lawyer for damages caused by going after such an idiotic amount of money. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, rooster59 said: The plaintiff, Vernon Unsworth, was seeking $190 million damages wow, greedy much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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