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Johnson, Corbyn wage Brexit battle in final debate before UK election

By Elizabeth Piper and Kylie MacLellan

 

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Britain's Prime Minister Boris Johnson and opposition Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn take part during a head-to-head debate on the BBC in London, Britain December 6, 2019. Jeff Overs/BBC/Handout via REUTERS

 

MAIDSTONE, England/LONDON (Reuters) - Prime Minister Boris Johnson and opposition Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn clashed over Brexit on Friday in the last televised debate before next week's election that will determine the path for Britain's departure from the European Union.

 

Six days before Britain votes in its second national election in less than three years, the debate was seen as the last chance for Corbyn to squeeze Johnson's lead in the polls, which mostly point to victory for the prime minister.

 

A snap poll by YouGov found 52% of viewers thought Johnson had won the debate.

 

The two leaders set a combative tone over how to leave the EU and in their very different offers for domestic policy - "socialism carried out in a democratic way" from Corbyn, or "one-nation Conservatism" that will not "rack up debts" from Johnson.

 

More than three years after Britain voted to leave the EU, the Dec. 12 election will determine when, how and even whether Brexit happens.

 

Johnson ridiculed Corbyn's support for a new referendum in which Corbyn has said he would remain neutral, while the Labour leader said the prime minister's pledge to "get Brexit done" actually meant years of trade talks.

 

"We have ample time to get on and build a new free trade partnership, not just with the EU but with countries around the world," Johnson said in the BBC television debate.

 

But Corbyn countered that it would take the government seven years to negotiate a trade deal with the United States and said business could not live with the uncertainty that Britain might still leave the EU without a deal next year.

 

Polls show Johnson's governing party is well ahead of Labour. A Panelbase survey on Friday showed the Conservatives extending their lead slightly over the opposition party to nine points, up from eight a week ago.

 

Johnson, who renegotiated a new divorce deal with the EU in October, has promised to "get Brexit done", a slogan he has repeated constantly during campaigning to try to win over Labour supporters who backed leaving the bloc, and those who are simply fed up of the political haggling over the issue.

 

Britons voted by 52%-48% in 2016 for Brexit but parliament has been stuck in deadlock over the way forward. If Johnson wins the majority he says he needs, Britain will leave by Jan. 31 and then seek to secure a trade deal with the bloc by the end of 2020.

 

DAMAGING DOSSIER

 

Keen to land a blow, Corbyn doubled down on an earlier attack on Johnson, calling his Brexit promises a fraud and saying his deal would simply be the start of years of "painful negotiations and broken promises".

 

The Labour leader waved at him documents he had unveiled earlier in the day, which he said showed the divorce deal would lead to customs declarations and security checks between Britain and Northern Ireland, a direct contradiction of Johnson's statements that it would not create any barriers.

 

"How about the prime minister showing a degree of honesty about the arrangements he's actually made with Northern Ireland," Corbyn said. "It is a question of openness."

 

Johnson said the document was "complete nonsense" and his team said they believed he had weathered the attack successfully.

 

Both were taken to task over accusations of prejudice in their parties, and questioned over their approaches to Britain's much loved public health service and their stance on security, a week after another terror attack hit the capital.

 

But with less than a week until the election, it looks as though many people are still undecided and the Conservative lead, so far, intact.

 

Sterling this week hit a 2-1/2-year high versus the euro and a seven-month high against the dollar on expectations that the Conservatives will win the election.

 

"Given the Conservatives went into this debate in the lead, they will hope the lack of a knockout blow means they can maintain this until voting day," said Chris Curtis, YouGov's Political Research Manager.

 

(Additional reporting by Paul Sandle, William Schomberg and Andrew MacAskill; writing by Elizabeth Piper and Michael Holden; Editing by Giles Elgood and Rosalba O'Brien)

 

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A snap poll by YouGov found 52% of viewers thought Johnson had won the debate.

 

Here is that 52% again🤔

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Saw report on Al Jazeera regarding Boris doing no campaigning or appearances for his seat. If I voted in that area, that would cheese me off and I'd be tempted to turf Boris out. Could he be PM if he loses local election?

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53 minutes ago, Emdog said:

Saw report on Al Jazeera regarding Boris doing no campaigning or appearances for his seat. If I voted in that area, that would cheese me off and I'd be tempted to turf Boris out. Could he be PM if he loses local election?

Yes, he could, but he would have to persuade, PDQ, some Tory who had just won a big majority in (say) Dorset to resign in favour of Bojo running in that constituency in a by-election.

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Well it seems the Labour elite know the way the cards will fall. Their hostile welcome wherever they went on the campaign trail will have been an eye opener. The below article reminds me a bit of the Titanic's band playing on as the ship slipped below the icy waters. But it being Labour the valiance is forced and fake rather than an impromptu display of braveness. Most of us with business interests in the UK will also be crying when Labour lose. Tears of joy that is.

 

Labour tells candidates not to cry in public if they lose next week

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1214169/General-election-2019-Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-Party-candidates-Boris-Johnson-Tory

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7 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Well it seems the Labour elite know the way the cards will fall. Their hostile welcome wherever they went on the campaign trail will have been an eye opener. The below article reminds me a bit of the Titanic's band playing on as the ship slipped below the icy waters. But it being Labour the valiance is forced and fake rather than an impromptu display of braveness. Most of us with business interests in the UK will also be crying when Labour lose. Tears of joy that is.

 

Labour tells candidates not to cry in public if they lose next week

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1214169/General-election-2019-Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-Party-candidates-Boris-Johnson-Tory

And then there are the other views about what is happening:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/06/tories-johnson-scary-manifesto-scrutiny-safari-park

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Really spoilt for choice with English politicians 

takes years of dithering to make a decision, 

shall I go left 

shall I go right 

maybe straight ahead 

oh I don't know,

let's start at the beginning again.

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2 hours ago, wombat said:

why wasn't the important  stuff talked about? 

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And they are. They can be voted out at the next election or deselected by their constituency party, as some have, prior to the next election.

 

Look up the difference between representative member of parliament and delegate btw.

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1 hour ago, leeneeds said:

Really spoilt for choice with English politicians 

takes years of dithering to make a decision, 

shall I go left 

shall I go right 

maybe straight ahead 

oh I don't know,

let's start at the beginning again.

 

They're British not English politicians.

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