justin case Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Marpa47 said: You may be right But. Commercial production involves shipping and the time it takes for delivery to reach final destination is probably weeks. Not to mention storage which can often be in direct sunlight or in trucks exposed to the heat of the sun in transit for at least part of the time. Also, please note that a business is all about profit and that’s a big incentive for making darn sure product gets sold with as little loss as possible. Anyone skilled in chemical analysis up for some testing of the most popular brands? gulf war syndrome might be cans of COLA (with aspartame) in the desert sun, turned TOXIC (formaldehyde) also and poisoned people , but not only in war veterans, also civilians in western countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMHILL Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 10 hours ago, keith101 said: Could it be the large consumption of alcohol and smoking ? Good thinking, by that thought process, Westerners should have a lot of stomach cancer because of large consumption of food. Im guessing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitkof Island Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Cancer is #1 worldwide . Nothing special about Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwynt Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 And thres me thinking it was dribing was No 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 11 hours ago, keith101 said: Could it be the large consumption of alcohol and smoking ? I can only proffer my personal experience. My mother died at the age of 25 and my sister aged 27. Both non-smokers and non-drinkers. What I can confirm is that Heaven is a better place for their arrival. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 5 hours ago, hyku1147 said: There is an abundance of vegetables and herbs that contain anti-carcinogenic compounds, cabbage and tumeric being prime examples - not to mention the cornucopia of vitamin rich fruits. Time for an anti smoking, pro nutrition media blitz. Where are the 'let's change the world' Lefties when you need them? And in the general commercial market what percentage of those vegetables are copiously coated or containing equal and opposite contaminating carcinogenic chemicals used to ensure production for apparent pristine consumer appeal? Anti smoking blitz? Justifiable yes in confined domestic spaces for sure. But in open environmental aspect a very low priority compared to the poisonous air created by the industrial sector! In reality what analytical study of blame on a specific causative for what or whichever provides any acknowledgement of differentiation by elimination of other substantive background causes? In this announcement of the high cancer rates in Thailand is there any accompanied statistical historical observation demonstrating a difference between global and local? The "lets change the world" lefties ? As distracted by high ideals as the" righties" in ignorance of the deceptions promoted by both devotions. Either way is in defense of extractable profit in one way or other. Cancers ? An enviable source of income to a select. Think about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddox41 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 A senior Thai doctor said 2 yrs ago that the fermented fish somtum shouldn't be eaten as its causes bowel cancer after a 10 yr study All there sweets are laced with sorbitol that's a known cancer agent msg another Smog, drinking everything in plastic food cooked in aluminium pots that a dementia trigger. Not a healthy place to live that's for sure... But Brain cancer that's a lack of common sence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrit1944 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 13 hours ago, keith101 said: Could it be the large consumption of alcohol and smoking ? Dumb remark. Any proofs Thai smoke or drink more than Westerners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 13 hours ago, Matzzon said: Just for you, pal. You put far to much tobacco in the banana leaf compared to what would be in a normal cigarette, and then you still smoke same many as a person smoking regular cigarettes. Something else you need clarified? Do not hesitate to ask my friend. ???? Stick to complaining about visa overstays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Speaking from experiance, my Thai Brother in law has has had his voice box removed becasue of cancer, he never smoked or drank, (excessively). He ate healthy, Live in the Country. I put it down to chemicals used on vegetables, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 my friend drank a lot ate spicey food all his life.in the end he could not eat spicey food but still drank and that is what killed him.cancer had no chance to do anything to him.i wonder where these facts come out.so many drink so much they kill they liver.it will continue forever in Thailand with local always available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 For all the guys who love the lack of regulation that we get in "Nanny States", Thailand is what a totally unregulated market gets you. You roll the dice with every breath you take, everything you eat here. Good luck. And, what's worse is that Thai Buddhist fatalism philosophy means it is unlikely most them are worried about this. You see, many don't beleive outcomes can be changed by choices. They beleive either you are lucky or unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbri Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 It's the FOOD folks. Animal protein/saturated fat. My wife's family up north eats RAW pork mixed with spices. Nothing could be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 19 hours ago, ezzra said: banned fertilizers Do tell. I'd like to know which ones are banned? Wouldn't want my farmer wife buying anything illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 6 hours ago, White Christmas13 said: Stick to complaining about visa overstays And who are you to give orders? Self-appointed administrator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackDenz Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 20 hours ago, unamazedloso said: burning rubbish, burning over chemical sprayed fields, charcoal manufacture and cooking, polystyrene everything, food additives, etc... could go on all day. Most thais eat instant noodles as a snack and they rate right at the top of carcongenic ingredients. Its all fake.. You make an excellent point about the burning of fields soaked in banned chemicals. Not many would realise that. I wonder how much gets into the atmosphere in addition to the original spraying process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemises Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Contaminated cesspool of Gulf of Thailand and highly polluted air in BKK. What could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oslooskar Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 11 hours ago, JIMHILL said: Good thinking, by that thought process, Westerners should have a lot of stomach cancer because of large consumption of food. Im guessing ! Well, I don't know about stomach cancer, but Westerners, starting with Denmark, France, and Australia, do have the highest rate of cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I had workers on my construction site telling me, that they also grow tomatoes (along the Mekong river) for four to six Baht the kilogramme. The chemicals they use (as instructed by the farm owner) require the workers to wear special gloves. Not doing so results in terrible skin irritation and cancer so, for once, they follow the instruction. So think twice when you bite into a tomato, which you just bought for 30 Baht, next time and rinsing it properly might not be a bad idea .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 18 hours ago, Jane Dough said: Cancer kills around 300 people per day in Thailand. 2018 114,000 deaths. Much worse than the roads. Rooster Thanks Rooster Did not know this although not too surprised given the air pollution & usage of chemicals even in areas that the ground water supply is near the surface You know on a recent trip to the North villages I was surprised to see so many Thai ladies with head wraps because of the loss of hair due to chemo treatments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwak250 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I sat outside for a few beers the other night with my brother in law and i remember my wife putting those mosquito coils that burn next to our feet Makes me think they are probably highly dangerous probably better to get a few bites than breathe all that <deleted> in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Preacher Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 "Some cancers are more prevalent in Thais than Westerners - these include liver, brain and throat cancer. Research is being conducted at Ramathibodi Hospital in Bangkok to understand the reasons behind this." They should study the difference in the affliction rate of different demographics within Thailand. Most "Thais" are farmers and carelessly use farm chemicals and eat raw crabs and fish sauce, all cancer causing agents. Compare the Thai "country folks" with the 5% at the top who own 80% of the country and are above it all. You will find that cancers are more prevalent in Thai farmers than in Thai tycoons, with the gap far greater than between Thais and Westerners. It has nothing to do with being Thai or being Western and everything to do with exposures. Westerners are both more educated and more literate than Thai farmers. For true literacy in today's world, one MUST be able to read AND understand English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, oslooskar said: Well, I don't know about stomach cancer, but Westerners, starting with Denmark, France, and Australia, do have the highest rate of cancer. Highest reported rates. It's very highly unlikely that Thailand and similar countries have the expertise and infrastructure to accurately track these things. Accurate national tracking is not a trivial task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beau thai Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 There seems to be a far more prevalent belief here in 'curing' cancer by all sorts of herbal means allied with a belief that chemo is bad for you. That alone, and budget/insurance limitations, will account for a signoficant number of deaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 23 hours ago, rooster59 said: to understand the reasons behind this. Exhaust fumes from poorly maintained diesels allowed to roam freely? Burning stubble fields unchecked by local police force? Inhaling toxic chemicals sprayed on crops? Eating these crops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 12 hours ago, maddox41 said: A senior Thai doctor said 2 yrs ago that the fermented fish somtum shouldn't be eaten as its causes bowel cancer after a 10 yr study All there sweets are laced with sorbitol that's a known cancer agent msg another Smog, drinking everything in plastic food cooked in aluminium pots that a dementia trigger. Not a healthy place to live that's for sure... But Brain cancer that's a lack of common sence. Certainly "pla ra" can harbour the liver fluke and should be avoided, and as for sorbitol, well it's natural and is found in the fruits of apples, plums, pears, cherries, dates, peaches and apricots, and is considered safe to eat. In fact Sorbitol is fermented in the colon and produces short- chain fatty acids, which are beneficial to overall colon health. MSG is also natural and in low to reasonable amounts doesn't cause any problems, although in some folk (me included) large doses in a small meal do bring on some flu-like symptoms. And the supposed link between aluminium pots and dementia has been disproven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 My guess is something to do with paraquat and those other poisonous pesticides sprayed in agricultural products that the government allows. Never seen a farmer wearing full protective gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleeagle Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 The three main killers everywhere are diabetes, heart failure and cancer. if the first two don't get you then the third probably will. we all have to die of something, for thais it tends to be cancer and this might actually be despite the pollution, smoking and drinking people have talked about. it could be their life expectancy is quite high and because there is a lower chance of diabetes and heart disease then its cancer that finally gets them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowisee Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 All the foreigners living in Thailand, saving money on rent and food can now spend all their hard earned savings on cancer treatment, heart surgery and dialysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred white Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9 hours ago, howbri said: It's the FOOD folks. Animal protein/saturated fat. My wife's family up north eats RAW pork mixed with spices. Nothing could be worse. That would be bad never heard of eating raw pork or chicken a good rare to medium rare steak maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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