Beggar Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 My Thai friend drives for Grab in Pattaya and got stopped by taxi drivers. They called the police and she got a fine of 2000 Baht. Does anybody know the current situation with non-payment of such fines? That's a lot of money for her. I know stories that she will have to pay at the next registration renewal. But there is a lot of conflicting information on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 It's a pickle indeed, the general consensus is that thai people don't pay their fines unless they absolutely have to, no one can say for sure weather this ticket will get lost in the bureaucracy or she will be flagged at her next car registration renewal, my advise pay it and forget about otherwise it linger in her minds for months to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallywag Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Paying for a ride from an unlicensed driver is illegal. She got "stopped by taxi drivers" So she admitted she was transporting people for money? Did she have a customer in the car who admitted to paying? Am not sure how just working for "Grab" is worthy of a fine if no money exchange is in evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggar Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Skallywag said: Paying for a ride from an unlicensed driver is illegal. She got "stopped by taxi drivers" So she admitted she was transporting people for money? Did she have a customer in the car who admitted to paying? Am not sure how just working for "Grab" is worthy of a fine if no money exchange is in evidence. The customers were sitting in the car. Chinese tourists. The police told her no need to lie... There was a discussion that perhaps in March next year Grab should become legal. Perhaps... These Grab drivers don't earn much and it is not legal. I told her several times already to do something different (she has a university degree - what doesn't mean much in Thailand). But she still has hope especially now in the Peak Season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggar Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 hours ago, ezzra said: It's a pickle indeed, the general consensus is that thai people don't pay their fines unless they absolutely have to, no one can say for sure weather this ticket will get lost in the bureaucracy or she will be flagged at her next car registration renewal, my advise pay it and forget about otherwise it linger in her minds for months to come... She told me before that she will choose the "general consensus" ???? Next registration renewal is in the middle of next year. Many things can happen until then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmcleod Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 As an FYI! I was at the local Ban Amphoe Post Office today and saw that Traffic fines can be paid there. I have not tried it and hope I never do but the local post office is generally more convenient than the police station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewgoo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 So, the question is - Is Grab legal or not. Many Thai's are enjoying the lucrative business of an illegal operation (if it is indeed illegal) because - let's face it - due to to internet availability of Grab (we are all connected!) and the complete dissatisfaction/scams of local operators - tourists are using Grab here (and worldwide). What is Grab's stance on it's operations in Thailand? This needs to be to established. ToT take note and adjust if you want to save your tourism industry and the livelihood of your traditional 'taxi' operators. I was in Singapore recently and my taxi driver was connected to a number of ('Grab-like) internet providing companies - as well as being a regular freelance taxi. He told me business has never been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewgoo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, mlmcleod said: As an FYI! I was at the local Ban Amphoe Post Office today and saw that Traffic fines can be paid there. I have not tried it and hope I never do but the local post office is generally more convenient than the police station. Yes - post offices are go - paid mine (it was the missus!) there yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 16 hours ago, ezzra said: It's a pickle indeed, the general consensus is that thai people don't pay their fines unless they absolutely have to, no one can say for sure weather this ticket will get lost in the bureaucracy or she will be flagged at her next car registration renewal, Correct 16 hours ago, ezzra said: my advise pay it No 16 hours ago, ezzra said: and forget about otherwise it linger in her minds for months to come... Probably not need. i think 90%+ nothing will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naboo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I paid my fine in the past. What a waste of money. I won't be paying the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNXexpat Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 People say, that I it´s impossible to renew the car tax if you have unpaid tickets, but that´s not true. Not all cities are connected in the computer. I had no problem to renew my tax with 5 unpaid tickets. But they were all from other provinces. I could have a problem if they would be from Chiang Mai, the same province where I live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, thenewgoo said: So, the question is - Is Grab legal or not. Many Thai's are enjoying the lucrative business of an illegal operation (if it is indeed illegal) because - let's face it - due to to internet availability of Grab (we are all connected!) and the complete dissatisfaction/scams of local operators - tourists are using Grab here (and worldwide). What is Grab's stance on it's operations in Thailand? This needs to be to established. ToT take note and adjust if you want to save your tourism industry and the livelihood of your traditional 'taxi' operators. I was in Singapore recently and my taxi driver was connected to a number of ('Grab-like) internet providing companies - as well as being a regular freelance taxi. He told me business has never been better. Grab is not world wide it only operates in Asia there is no Grab in Australia either Grab is a Singapore-based company which offers ride hailing, ride sharing and food delivery services via its mobile app in Southeast Asia. In addition to Singapore, the company's services are available in countries such as Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and the Philippines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggar Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, CNXexpat said: People say, that I it´s impossible to renew the car tax if you have unpaid tickets, but that´s not true. Not all cities are connected in the computer. I had no problem to renew my tax with 5 unpaid tickets. But they were all from other provinces. I could have a problem if they would be from Chiang Mai, the same province where I live. She will find out. I was reading on the Internet that some never had to pay even at car registration - same as your experience. In the worst case they got a temporary registration for one month so that they had time to pay the fines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Beggar said: The customers were sitting in the car. Chinese tourists. The police told her no need to lie... There was a discussion that perhaps in March next year Grab should become legal. Perhaps... These Grab drivers don't earn much and it is not legal. I told her several times already to do something different (she has a university degree - what doesn't mean much in Thailand). But she still has hope especially now in the Peak Season. She should be happy that she is a she. Because if she would be a he then maybe he would have been beaten up by other drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggar Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, thenewgoo said: So, the question is - Is Grab legal or not. Grab is not legal. The government wants that you have a license and a yellow license plate. Perhaps it might become legal next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Beggar said: 1 hour ago, thenewgoo said: So, the question is - Is Grab legal or not. Grab is not legal. The government wants that you have a license and a yellow license plate. Perhaps it might become legal next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewgoo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Grab is not legal. The government wants that you have a license and a yellow license plate. Perhaps it might become legal next year. Perhaps next year indeed, and in the meantime business as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewgoo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said: Grab is not world wide it only operates in Asia there is no Grab in Australia either Grab is a Singapore-based company which offers ride hailing, ride sharing and food delivery services via its mobile app in Southeast Asia. In addition to Singapore, the company's services are available in countries such as Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and the Philippines The question wasn't 'is Grab world-wide?' as such - there are many Grab-like companies globally. Never mind - I take your point. I also see you note that Grab operates services in Thailand. Is this legally? Is the (only recognized) legal service Grab offer in Thailand the food? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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