webfact Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Saudi Arabia ends gender-segregated entrances for restaurants By Stephen Kalin FILE PHOTO: Women sit among men in a newly opened cafe in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, August 2, 2019. REUTERS/ Hamad I Mohammed/File Photo RIYADH (Reuters) - Restaurants in Saudi Arabia will no longer need to maintain entrances segregated by sex, the authorities said on Sunday, further eroding some of the world's strictest social rules as sweeping reforms take hold. Previously, Saudi Arabia required all restaurants to have one entrance for families and women, and another for men on their own. The ministry of municipalities and rural affairs announced on Twitter this would no longer be mandatory. Unrelated men and women have for decades been barred from mixing in public places under strict social rules once enforced by hardline clerics and the religious police. But Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has brought the religious establishment to heel -- partly by arresting critics -- and eased other restrictions, including bans on women driving and public entertainment. Segregation has quietly eased over the past year or so, as eateries, cafes, conference centres and concert halls stopped strictly enforcing it. A spokesman for the ministry contacted by Reuters did not specify whether segregated seating areas inside restaurants would also be eliminated. The new rules are not compulsory, meaning restaurants could still maintain separate entrances if owners choose to do so, he said. There was no announcement of changes to other public establishments, such as schools and hospitals, which appear likely to remain segregated for now. Saudi Arabia, one of the world's most gender-segregated nations, has also been chipping away at a guardianship system which requires all women have a male relative's approval for important decisions, though some key restrictions remain. Social openness has been accompanied by a crackdown on dissent that has seen the arrests of dozens of clerics, intellectuals and activists, including women who had campaigned for some of the freedoms that have lately been granted. It has also raised concerns about a possible backlash by conservatives, though there has so far been little concrete pushback. The crown prince, 34, is the heir to the Saudi throne and de facto ruler. If and when he replaces his father, King Salman, he would be the first Saudi monarch from a new generation after a succession of six brothers that have ruled since 1953. Prince Mohammed's reputation in the West as a bold reformer suffered after the murder of U.S.-based Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who was killed by Saudi agents last year inside the kingdom's Istanbul consulate. (Reporting by Stephen Kalin; Editing by Peter Graff) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-12-09 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 What next ,gender neutral toilets ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, ivor bigun said: What next ,gender neutral toilets ????? Just started building them in schools in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyt00 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Good, maybe they will end the all male goon squad also! Some day you will be murdered by a mixed gender team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 it might be too much to ask for them to update, to swinging doors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobFord Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I just came back from Vancouver after being away for six years and all the restaurants have “gender neutral” washrooms. This means everyone has their own toilet, and there isn’t any urinals. Which is great, because ( unlike you ) I don’t like standing next to swinging dicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick501 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Kudos to them for being marginally less barbaric. At least it's starting to acknowledge their way of life is messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The newest generation don't seem to have a gender !! So it's a mute point ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 It'll be like the South of France in the middle east soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, RobFord said: I just came back from Vancouver after being away for six years and all the restaurants have “gender neutral” washrooms. This means everyone has their own toilet, and there isn’t any urinals. Which is great, because ( unlike you ) I don’t like standing next to swinging dicks. I know it must be hard for you lot with small ones when you have to stand next to our large swinging ones .???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, rhyddid said: Do we have clear that this Muslim middle age law country is the best alley of US and all EU and US are in competitions to trade them guns and bombs ? This is the so called western democracy ! Just because we trade with them, that doesnt give us the right to tell them what do within their own country . They sell us oil, does that give them the right to tell us how to behave in our own countries ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, sanemax said: Just because we trade with them, that doesnt give us the right to tell them what do within their own country . They sell us oil, does that give them the right to tell us how to behave in our own countries ? just because we now have significant proportions of muslim populations in non-muslim countries, we should focus our concerns on how Saudi-funded wahhabi schools and mosques challenge our democracies, and for the rest, as long as they keep their folklore within their borders, it's none of our business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 hours ago, ivor bigun said: What next ,gender neutral toilets ????? We've had them in Finland since ca. 1500. About the same year as Saudis today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 This is inaccurate. Most restaurants had separated dining areas, one for single or unaccompanied males the other for families and male/female couples but, usually a common entrance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Mick501 said: Kudos to them for being marginally less barbaric. At least it's starting to acknowledge their way of life is messed up. And other countries / societies aren't? Example, a country where kids can very easily access rifles and handguns and very often shoot / kill other kids / many other kids at school and the president wants teachers to be armed in the classroom as an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 hours ago, DrTuner said: We've had them in Finland since ca. 1500. About the same year as Saudis today. That's Finland? I thought you guys there keep the forest floors swept. In Kota Baru in Malaysia, right across the border, the supermarkets have segregated lines at the checkout for men and women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 hours ago, RobFord said: I just came back from Vancouver after being away for six years and all the restaurants have “gender neutral” washrooms. This means everyone has their own toilet, and there isn’t any urinals. Which is great, because ( unlike you ) I don’t like standing next to swinging dicks. Comparisons odious????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I think I will be lucky enough to die just before it comes down to domestic violence where the bird beats up the guy. Although I am sure it happens now in some places. Power is a horrible thing and they excel at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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