sanemax Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, oldhippy said: try "google translate" Why dont you use Google translate and then tell us all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravers Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, katana said: From the Pattaya News Thai language website today (09/12/19): 34 year-old mamasan Ms Naruemon Panadit of Silver Star Go Go bar on Soi 7, Beach Rd has given her version of events to police. She said the foreigner came in the bar and ordered 4 bottles of beer and had 2 girls sit with him while they had 2 lady drinks. When it came to closing time and to settle his tab the Irishman started raising a hullabaloo and saying he was mafia and why does he have to pay anything. She said he could pay here or the police station whereupon he then proceeded to grab her arm and hit her hard in the face. She then started fighting with him with some of the female staff joining in whereupon he fell down on the floor, his face hitting the ground and becoming covered in blood. He was then helped out of the bar. She continued, "He was very drunk. I didn't want to do it but he started it and I had to protect myself. There were no men involved in the fracas, only women." The police said they have still to question the foreigner involved. He has yet to contact them and make a complaint. How do you know when a Thai is lying?.....their lips are moving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, sanemax said: Why dont you use Google translate and then tell us all ? I am not your servant - maybe you need to learn about this modern technology for yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, oldhippy said: I am not your servant - maybe you need to learn about this modern technology for yourself? No you are not my servant , but why dont you try doing things for yourself, rather than telling other people to do things for you ? Stop being so vague pretending you know everything and then telling everyone else to do a websearch so they can find out what you know . Just tell us.............unless you are faking it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redoubt Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Life teaches that 'there are two sides to every story'. No doubt a review of the CCTV will help to reveal all of the apparent contributing factors. It is very possible that in the days to come, the actual realities of the reported incident may very well change dramatically. Let us wait until the smoke clears, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maprao Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said: I missed his slander and slur about underage girls. So a drunk newbie shot his mouth off full of misplaced moral outrage. Some people think he got what he deserved. I bet he threatened a female staff member or even hit one. That why he was attacked. Lets hope hes learned his lesson. Thai media doesn't normally slander. Maybe study some Thai as you obviously have lots of time judging by your post count since joining. Has for him hitting him hitting a member of staff a d threatening one I did not see that reported anywhere. Other than allegations by the perpetrators. The mind boggles!!???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 46 minutes ago, oldhippy said: I am not your servant - maybe you need to learn about this modern technology for yourself? Google translate "Modern day technology" ? ???? Google translate has been around for 13 years , hardly modern when talking about computers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, sanemax said: Google translate "Modern day technology" ? ???? Google translate has been around for 13 years , hardly modern when talking about computers Thick as a brick(layer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, oldhippy said: Thick as a brick(layer). What clever and original word play from you, you are amazing, know everything and know all about google translate ..................what an amazing clever guy you are , and not scared to tell everyone how amazing and clever you are either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, sanemax said: What clever and original word play from you, you are amazing, know everything and know all about google translate ..................what an amazing clever guy you are , and not scared to tell everyone how amazing and clever you are either He's also an accomplished clog dancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, sanemax said: What clever and original word play from you, you are amazing, know everything and know all about google translate ..................what an amazing clever guy you are , and not scared to tell everyone how amazing and clever you are either indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, kingdong said: He's also an accomplished clog dancer. you confuse me with the dutch - your stereotypes are so euh so euh so brexitish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Where is Loiner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalangJaiDee Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, katana said: When it came to closing time and to settle his tab the Irishman started raising a hullabaloo and saying he was mafia and why does he have to pay anything. *When it came to closing time and to settle his tab...the Irishman noticed 6 ladydrinks on his tab that he had not requested at all, but were ordered on his behalf, because "that's what we thought he said." I bet that's what happened with the gulf war guy too. unfortunately, trying to aggressively dispute it doesn't ever end well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just an Irishman drunk in Pattaya, anything can happen. Who is guilty ? Probably both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jastheace Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, oldhippy said: Funny, but google and common knowledge say something else. You wouldn't be british by any chance? originates from irish. go out and meet some. whether in the UK or ROW, go and meet them, you'll understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jastheace Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, oldhippy said: Maybe the right word to describe these Thai tugs would be "hooligans" Now remind me, where did that expression - used in just about every language of the world - originate? Irish. googled it. Irish family in England. But could describe any Irish whatever their surname. maybe I've only met the sh^t ones though, not a pleasure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The expression was introduced in Europe as "football hooligans", after the Heysel Stadium disaster in 1985. Not many Irish football teams are known in Europe... Later the expression was used with no connection to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, maprao said: Thai media doesn't normally slander. Maybe study some Thai as you obviously have lots of time judging by your post count since joining. Has for him hitting him hitting a member of staff a d threatening one I did not see that reported anywhere. Other than allegations by the perpetrators. The mind boggles!!???? I have no idea why you reference Thai media. I simply dont understand what you are getting at. It was suggested in this thread that he may have made accusatory comments of a slanderous nature about staff and their age. It has since transpired he refused to pay a bill, got violent and then he attacked an old lady, the manageress of the bar. So a drunken oaf and bully got the slap he deserved. He should go back to the bar, buy a round of drinks and apologise. And having been around Thailand for years I know when these things happen it is usually the foreigners fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, oldhippy said: The expression was introduced in Europe as "football hooligans". Not many Irish football teams are known in Europe... Later the expression was used with no connection to football. The term Hooliganism predated football gangs and their fights. The Teds were described as hooligans as were the mods and rockers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jastheace Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said: It has since transpired he attacked an old lady, the manageress of the bar. So a drunken oaf and bully got the slap he deserved. He should go back to the bar, buy a round of drinks and apologise. And having been around Thailand for years I know when these things happen it is usually the foreigners fault. exactly the way I read it, and from experience ( as seen ) seems to be more likely. an oaf on his first day, a 2 week millionaire with a few hundred euro in his pocket. lesson learned ? doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said: I have no idea why you reference Thai media. I simply dont understand what you are getting at. It was suggested in this thread that he may have made accusatory comments of a slanderous nature about staff and their age. It has since transpired he refused to pay a bill, got violent and then he attacked an old lady, the manageress of the bar. So a drunken oaf and bully got the slap he deserved. He should go back to the bar, buy a round of drinks and apologise. And having been around Thailand for years I know when these things happen it is usually the foreigners fault. QUOTE:then he attacked an old lady, the manageress of the bar 555 An old lady, manageress of the bar? In post # 90 there is a picture of the 34 years old "manager" Madam Naruemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said: The term Hooliganism predated football gangs and their fights. The Teds were described as hooligans as were the mods and rockers. You, Jastheace and Sanemax are confusing me. IRISH Teds, Mods, Rockers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jastheace Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, oldhippy said: You, Jastheace and Sanemax are confusing me. IRISH Teds, Mods, Rockers? sorry for your confusion. most will get it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, jastheace said: sorry for your confusion. most will get it though. OK. And the old lady that got slapped? PS. You and the others are talking about the origin of "hooligans" in the UK. I am talking about the origin of the word "hooligans" in the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jastheace Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, oldhippy said: OK. And the old lady that got slapped? IRISH teds mod rockers. start there, go back origins of the word now used and common in English language. 'Hooligan' go back a bit more. if you need more help, just ask, happy to help. hope you get it, but will help with post numbers, google is good also for searches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, jastheace said: IRISH teds mod rockers. start there, go back origins of the word now used and common in English language. 'Hooligan' go back a bit more. if you need more help, just ask, happy to help. hope you get it, but will help with post numbers, google is good also for searches. Whatever you say. And were did the rest of the world get the expression hooligans from? And what about the old lady that got slapped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jastheace Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 pig dung is quite thin as a matter of fact. how they get a reputation as being thick as … defeats me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jastheace Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, oldhippy said: And were did the rest of the world get the expression hooligans from? And what about the old lady that got slapped? 1. given by the originators. 2. she's ok, just a bit cautious about irish patronage hope all you concerns are answered. nearly pick up time for golf trip, forgive me if I do not answer for a few hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, oldhippy said: The expression was introduced in Europe as "football hooligans", after the Heysel Stadium disaster in 1985. Not many Irish football teams are known in Europe... Later the expression was used with no connection to football. I thought that you could use google search ? As I stated, the word "Hooligan" came from the Family name of hoollihan and it was also a comic book character from an 1890 comic and there was an Irish bouncer in London ................can you just do a google search yourself ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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