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Thanks Sherlock. What's this got to do with Thai visa forum. The thread is about how to remain in Los. Not random financial advice. 

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On 12/10/2019 at 7:46 PM, scubascuba3 said:

The Elite would avoid the op 20 years of fannying about with border runs, extensions, EDs, denied entries, deported etc

 

 For how long , thai immi regs  change .

 Looking 20 years ahead , on a Elite , time changes , and so do the thai regs..

 

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17 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

You can only get an METV from a country where you're legally resident (typically your own country)

 

Re: Thailand, you're entitled to 2 (no more, no less) Land Border entries per calendar year so you can always get an extra 4 months (2 x 30 days each extended by 30 days) out of this.

 

Da Nang is a lovely place, thinking of heading back there for a couple of weeks myself early next year, 1 thing to keep in mind is you're only allowed one 14 day Visa Exempt* entry into Vietnam then you need to spend a minimum of 30 days out of the country before you can get another one... Really easy to get 3 month Visas though & possibly a 1 year one for Business purposes  

 

*NB If you're going to Phu Quoc, the VE is for 30 days... 

 

 

Edit: Re: Visa for Vietnam,  It's $38 to get the "Invitation" letter, you then pick-up and pay for the "Stamping" of the Visa when you arrive, $25 for SIngle Entry & $50 for Multi Entry....

 

So 3 months ME will cost US$88 (approx 2,700 THB or 80 Euros)

 

Some useful information here https://www.evisa.com.vn/news-on-visa-vietnam/item/782-how-much-does-it-cost-to-get-vietnam-visa-on-arrival-totally 

 

 

 

Wrong, letter of invitation is $25 canuckCanuck

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4 hours ago, Ron jeremy said:

Wrong, letter of invitation is $25 canuckCanuck

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It all depends which company you use, $38 was just an example to share how the process works and how you need to get an "Invitation Letter", then the Visa on Arrival - I speak from experience as the 1st attempt to visit Vietnam, we turned up at Changi airport & got refused check-in because we didn't have the Invitation Letter or a Visa (Not a problem, s$10 SGD & 1 hour later we're sat on a flight to Phuket, good old days when Airlines were more flexible). 

 

I can't remember how much I paid for the Invitation when I did finally get around to visiting as It was about 10 years ago & since then I've just used VIsa Exempt 

 

 

As an aside, a month ago my mate lost his Credit Card & needed to get a Cambodian eVisa so I helped him to buy it on mine, the site he was going to use wanted $145USD, I've done this a couple of times, so went straight to the official Cambodian Government eVisa site (https://www.evisa.gov.kh/) & it was $35 (maybe $38) USD - I wonder if Vietnam has a similar "Official" site & how much it would be on there.

 

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On 12/10/2019 at 6:47 AM, Sheryl said:

They are cracking down on people using tourist visas to live here. Unofficial limit of 180 days a year and then you may get hassled or denied entry.

I was just on the phone with the Washington DC embassy and on their  recording they said you can apply for 2 tourist visas PER YEAR. I don't think it matters what's "official" or not at this point because the people issuing the visas are enforcing the rule.

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3 hours ago, genericptr said:

I was just on the phone with the Washington DC embassy and on their  recording they said you can apply for 2 tourist visas PER YEAR. I don't think it matters what's "official" or not at this point because the people issuing the visas are enforcing the rule.

Not sure I would a recording official info.

It is not mentioned on their website. https://thaiembdc.org/consular-services/tourist-visas/

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On 12/10/2019 at 8:05 PM, SteveK said:

This is not correct. According to Thai law, doing freelancing work on your computer is still work and is not allowed without a work permit, which you won't be able to get. Yes, if you keep it quiet you won't have any problems, but don't think that what you are doing is legal. It isn't.

Please provide a source for your statement.  Chiang Mai immigration office disagrees. 

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On 12/10/2019 at 8:07 PM, FritsSikkink said:

That is persistent misinformation by freelancers. It is illegal, it says so in the labor law. Immigration is for visa, the labor department for labor law. That guy can say what he wants, doesn't change the law.

Show me where it says that in Thai labor law. 

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On 12/10/2019 at 8:53 PM, SteveK said:

Wrong. If enough people know that you are coining it on some internet business whilst in Thailand, and then someone grasses, then you'll be deported.

 

 

If someone got a stick up their butt, Nana, Cowboy, Patpong, Patong, and Pattaya would be shut down because prostitution is technically illegal.  But hasn't happened yet so . . .

 

I agree that "work" is so broadly defined that you could get arrested for jerking off, so you have to go by how the law is commonly applied. 

 

Please post an example of a single person being booted for running an Amazon drop ship site or something like that. Or please post an example of someone getting the boot for their freelance business.  

 

Typically, it never happens unless the person is involved in a business that is also illegal in Thailand (porn, FOREX, etc). 

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17 hours ago, Caldera said:

Or did. Apparently they're not accepting new foreign employees at this point, and it's unclear if they will be willing and able to make those "changes to their business model" that the Thai authorities require them to make.

Maybe it has something to do with the BOI privileges.


As I remember, not all BOI-approved companies have the perk of being able to hire "unlimited" foreign employees.

 

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46 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Not sure I would a recording official info.

It is not mentioned on their website. https://thaiembdc.org/consular-services/tourist-visas/

Fair enough but clearly that doesn't matter. I had a very stern talk with the IO at the Embassy and just asking questions made her annoyed so I can imagine challenging her on Thai law would completely derail any chances of getting a visa. "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" comes to mind here.

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20 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Thanks Sherlock. What's this got to do with Thai visa forum. The thread is about how to remain in Los. Not random financial advice. 

 

Remember. This is the same guy who thinks bitcoin is a great investment, but can't afford 3000 Euro a year for a hassle free visa to live in Thailand.

 

Off to Cambodia he goes, cuz apparently they will be cracking down in Vietnam too.

 

One thing tho is that 3000 Euro a year is a great deal for Digital nomad. Thailand does have a very reliable internet and great infrastructure regardless of haw backward and third world it is regarding other issues. Maybe he should try internet in Myanmar or Laos?

 

Elite Visa is really a no brainer for a residency privilege where he would probably not pay 1 baht tax.... , but like I said in the opening post, he probably sucks as a digital nomad and is working for pennies like 85% of them livin' the dream.

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I would say, get a one year multi entry visa in Vietnam for around 500 euro and try that out mostly.
Then you can easily obtain tourist visa's for Thailand and also do some more time there. 

You might like Vietnam as much or more and it is simply cheaper and easier to get 1 year visa's there at this time.

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9 minutes ago, tabarin said:

I would say, get a one year multi entry visa in Vietnam for around 500 euro and try that out mostly.
Then you can easily obtain tourist visa's for Thailand and also do some more time there. 

You might like Vietnam as much or more and it is simply cheaper and easier to get 1 year visa's there at this time.

I think OP is French. 

Only USA citizens can obtain one yr multi tourist visa for Vietnam. 

However he could obtain multi 3 month visas as often as he wants. I get 4 per year. Cost $75 each. So yes ~$300/yr.

Oh just realized you could be referring to business visa. That would need to be done by agent if you don't have a business sponsor letter. Agents sort that out.

Yes your correct. Won't delete my post as might be useful to someone thinking about 3 month stay

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6 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

I think OP is French. 

Only USA citizens can obtain one yr multi tourist visa for Vietnam. 

However he could obtain multi 3 month visas as often as he wants. I get 4 per year. Cost $75 each. So yes ~$300/yr.

Oh just realized you could be referring to business visa. That would need to be done by agent if you don't have a business sponsor letter. Agents sort that out.

Yes your correct. Won't delete my post as might be useful to someone thinking about 3 month stay

Yes the Biz ones are like 400-500 euro.

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On 12/10/2019 at 7:46 PM, dcnx said:

Go somewhere else unless you want to waste money on the elite. For the same amount or a little more you can buy residency in a good handful of other places.

Any examples of where PM can be bought for Elite Visa money?

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2 hours ago, Pravda said:

 

Remember. This is the same guy who thinks bitcoin is a great investment, but can't afford 3000 Euro a year for a hassle free visa to live in Thailand.

Bitcoin that was me.

3,000 a year is not the same as 15,000 upfront for 5 years or 120 something thb a day as mentioned earlier.

 

As a digital nomad you would want travel around most of the time unlikely to come to thailand more than 2-3 times a year, given VE entries and how easy you can get 6 months tourist visa, an elite visa in this case would be the absolute most terrifyingly stupid way to waste your money.

 

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The question should rather be: which other countries in South-East Asia are cheap (good weather, good food, whatever your priorities are) and easy (visa) to live in?

 

Three weeks and a half is not enough to judge live here. You should go through all seasons once.

 

Have you been elsewhere in South-East Asia or even as far as Hong Kong and Taiwan which offer 90 days visa-free stay for German citizens (me), and probably for French as well?

 

I have spent many years in Thailand on TVs, and done visa runs all over South-East Asia, and Thailand used to be the best option for long-term stay, but that is now changing.

 

I made a commitment to Thailand (study the language and spend most of my time here and travel around the country extensively) when it was easy to get various kinds of TV year after year.

 

Don't commit yourself to Thailand (ED visa or elite) at a time it's difficult to stay here on TV. Come and go and spend time elsewhere. Going by the unofficial 180 days rule, make it 5 months per year in Thailand, 3 months Hong Kong or Taiwan visa free, 4 months elsewhere.

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Given the costs of living as a transient and the strength of the Thai baht as well as price inflation I venture to say that OP can bank more money living somewhere inexpensive in the EU. As someone who lived by border hopping 15 years ago I know it's expensive. It adds up. I just went to Cambodia but if you're on a plane every 60 days, new city for a week, guesthouses, transportation and new visa.

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