Trump is fourth U.S. president to face impeachment as Democrats unveil charges

[Tug]

2 minutes ago, HuskerDo said:

"I know alot of conservatives in the US that hate him"... By ALOT I assume you mean less than 100. Insignificant. 

 

"They did not vote for a man who would hike the annual deficit to over a trillion dollars, prove that he cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag"..... are you talking about Trump or a few that recently preceded him?

Ahhh I think it’s trump you know N Korea the trade war the wall immigration you know all those places were he failed to negotiate anything

[Saint Nick]

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I would say the judges are more important as they will be the gift that keeps giving well into the future. Tactically the senate played this to perfection. There is time to rename libraries later.

 

Laws don't matter if you don't have the judges to interpret them anyway.

Laws obviously don't matter to you, if you name Trump "the great one"!

So please...stop to pretend you care!

[Cryingdick]

4 minutes ago, Tug said:

Ahhh I think it’s trump you know N Korea the trade war the wall immigration you know all those places were he failed to negotiate anything

Apprehensions at the border are down 70%. This is due to Mexico wanting a deal and committing resources to their own borders.

[Eric Loh]

32 minutes ago, HuskerDo said:

the new agreement to replace the absurd NAFTA deal is about to happen for the US, Mexico and Canada. 

Didn’t impress the market a bit. Went down after the news. The market know a dud when they see one. Just old wine in new bottle. 

[Cryingdick]

11 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Pretty damning poll for Trump as more Americans eager to impeach him compare with Clinton and Nixon. Clinton and Nixon were polled at 53% and 55% disapproval respectively. It seem many want to see him leave office. I can’t disagree more with the general consensus. 

 

You have to look at who agrees and in what states now. The numbers could be 99%-0% in California and it doesn't matter, it would be expected.

[Eric Loh]

16 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

You have to look at who agrees and in what states now. The numbers could be 99%-0% in California and it doesn't matter, it would be expected.

The Deep South Louisiana defeat of Trump’s man amid a looming impeachment investigation in November has plenty to matter. 

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

The Deep South Louisiana defeat of Trump’s man amid a looming impeachment investigation in November has plenty to matter. 

I am willing to let you go through life believing local elections matter in a presidential race.  You realize Trump isn't running in a gubernatorial race right?

[Eric Loh]

10 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

I am willing to let you go through life believing local elections matter in a presidential race.  You realize Trump isn't running in a gubernatorial race right?

A wise man once told me that many battles were lost and business deals went awry due to failure to read the warning signs. 

[jany123]

5 hours ago, rgraham said:

Silly democrats, what a waste of resources for three years!

Funny really... or really funny... take your pick.

 

personally I would have thought that resources that conduct oversight were doing exactly what those resources where designed to do. Logically, those obstructing oversight are the ones wasting the resource.

 

meanwhile, if the king is obstructing oversight, with the blessing of the rich white men, those players are defying the spirit of the constitution y’all brag so much about, because this document was supposedly designed to remove any need or chance of a sole ruler taking power.

 

If you remove bipartisanship. Remove oversight. Remove the power of either the house or senate. Use (ever increasingly)  rule by presidential decree.... well.... IMO, you’ve watered down the framers intent to secure that republic. Y’all might as well vote to grant the elected leader dictatorial powers for ten years. Now that’s happened before! 

[jany123]

3 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

The reason he will do this other than they have stacked the federal courts with judges in the meantime.

My personal understanding of terms such as “they have stacked...” has always been that one side has managed to gain an unfair advantage. 

 

If elected officials are relying on republican appointed judges to act with a republican bias, its definitive proof that those divided states has started its decline. Judges are supposedly impartial... so there goes your judicial system right down the toilet, whilst y’all cheer on its demise. So sad.

[Thaidream]

3 hours ago, Sujo said:

Its the 4th. Nixon was impeached.

Nixon was not impeached, however, the House Judiciary committee voted in favor of Articles of Impeachment but the full house never voted as Nixon resigned thus making  only 2 President Formally Impeaced (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton)   Both were acquitted in the Senate/

 

I seriously doubt that there are enough votes to convict Trump in the Senate because the Republicans refuse to come to grips with their duty  to the United States and are afraid of losing their position by constituents who fail to understand the gravity of the 'crimes' Trump has committed.

 

There are currently 3 suits headed for the US Supreme Court regarding Donald Trump's tax returns which he adamantly refuses to reveal.  If one of these cases rules he must turn over his returns, Trump will be weakened and forced to resign.

 

Trump's tax returns will most likely show massive illegality involving money from Russian 'investors' who purchased Trump's property at inflated prices (money laundering) It;s also fradulent if as suspected  if he lied about the actual worth of the property= a technique his father taught him and the lawyer Roy Cohen.

 

Trump used the Bankruptcy laws 4 times to  discharge debts on failed business ventures and he was unable to borrow any money from US banks but got plenty of money from overseas Russian investors with huge ties to  the Russian Government. Evere wonder why Trump likes Putin so much and why there is neveer a record of their private discussions.  Even the Translators' notes are destroyed.

 

hen there is the violation of the emoulments clause of the US Constitution- which states that a President cannot enrich himself during his tenure.  Trump has violated this in spades- basically renting out his Mar A Lago hotel for meetings and  golf outings- in essence sending he bill to the US Goverenment.

 

Donald Trump could care less if he is impeached because he knows the Senate will not convict him. However, he does care about being convicted in a court of law for fraud; violating  the tax code and money laundering. Those are not political

 

IMO, at some point these lawsuites will provide the evidence needed to form a criminal case against Trump either by the State of New York and/or the Federal Government.

 

A deal will be offered to Mr Donald 'Art of the Deal'  Trump-  resign the Presidency; Pence becomes President and pardons Trump.  The State of New York accepts a guilty plea with no jail time and a fine and Trump is allowed to slither back to his New York City  property.

 

The key to the  'deal' is the timing. It has to happen before the 2020 election because if Trump loses there will be no pardon and he will go to jail.

 

IMO- Trump will take the deal because he would never survive in jail. In prison- he won't have servants lay out his clothes or dye his hair and put on his make=up.  He would have to face the reality of  real life and he can't possibly do that.

[rabas]

3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

A wise man once told me that many battles were lost and business deals went awry due to failure to read the warning signs. 

More people have succeeded by not listing to naysayers. Did you sell on election day with all the other Democrats?

[Sujo]

3 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

I am willing to let you go through life believing local elections matter in a presidential race.  You realize Trump isn't running in a gubernatorial race right?

Oh he was in it up to his neck. He even said it was a vote for him.

[Tippaporn]

1 hour ago, jany123 said:

My personal understanding of terms such as “they have stacked...” has always been that one side has managed to gain an unfair advantage. 

 

If elected officials are relying on republican appointed judges to act with a republican bias, its definitive proof that those divided states has started its decline. Judges are supposedly impartial... so there goes your judicial system right down the toilet, whilst y’all cheer on its demise. So sad.

It's the Dems who have stacked the appointed judges with Dem bias.  Trump is actually unstacking, meaning that he's reverting back to impartial judges, whilst we'all cheer it on.  So glad.

[Tippaporn]

1 hour ago, Thaidream said:

Nixon was not impeached, however, the House Judiciary committee voted in favor of Articles of Impeachment but the full house never voted as Nixon resigned thus making  only 2 President Formally Impeaced (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton)   Both were acquitted in the Senate/

 

I seriously doubt that there are enough votes to convict Trump in the Senate because the Republicans refuse to come to grips with their duty  to the United States and are afraid of losing their position by constituents who fail to understand the gravity of the 'crimes' Trump has committed.

 

There are currently 3 suits headed for the US Supreme Court regarding Donald Trump's tax returns which he adamantly refuses to reveal.  If one of these cases rules he must turn over his returns, Trump will be weakened and forced to resign.

 

Trump's tax returns will most likely show massive illegality involving money from Russian 'investors' who purchased Trump's property at inflated prices (money laundering) It;s also fradulent if as suspected  if he lied about the actual worth of the property= a technique his father taught him and the lawyer Roy Cohen.

 

Trump used the Bankruptcy laws 4 times to  discharge debts on failed business ventures and he was unable to borrow any money from US banks but got plenty of money from overseas Russian investors with huge ties to  the Russian Government. Evere wonder why Trump likes Putin so much and why there is neveer a record of their private discussions.  Even the Translators' notes are destroyed.

 

hen there is the violation of the emoulments clause of the US Constitution- which states that a President cannot enrich himself during his tenure.  Trump has violated this in spades- basically renting out his Mar A Lago hotel for meetings and  golf outings- in essence sending he bill to the US Goverenment.

 

Donald Trump could care less if he is impeached because he knows the Senate will not convict him. However, he does care about being convicted in a court of law for fraud; violating  the tax code and money laundering. Those are not political

 

IMO, at some point these lawsuites will provide the evidence needed to form a criminal case against Trump either by the State of New York and/or the Federal Government.

 

A deal will be offered to Mr Donald 'Art of the Deal'  Trump-  resign the Presidency; Pence becomes President and pardons Trump.  The State of New York accepts a guilty plea with no jail time and a fine and Trump is allowed to slither back to his New York City  property.

 

The key to the  'deal' is the timing. It has to happen before the 2020 election because if Trump loses there will be no pardon and he will go to jail.

 

IMO- Trump will take the deal because he would never survive in jail. In prison- he won't have servants lay out his clothes or dye his hair and put on his make=up.  He would have to face the reality of  real life and he can't possibly do that.

And conservatives here get accused of fomenting conspiracy theories all the time.  It takes a great deal of imagination to write all of that while not providing a stitch of evidence for any of it.  Too funny.

[metisdead]

A post containing a link to a comedy site has been removed as well as the replies.  Sites such as that are not credible sources of news. 

[jany123]

45 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

It's the Dems who have stacked the appointed judges with Dem bias.  Trump is actually unstacking, meaning that he's reverting back to impartial judges, whilst we'all cheer it on.  So glad.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/05/politics/judiciary-by-party-courts-judges-us/index.html

 

Your compatriot ... tearful dick, was bragging on the affiliation of the judges, but hey, it’s always fun fact checking the followers of the liar in chief.

 

saying that, I’m happy to amend my earlier post...

49 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

relying on republican appointed judges to act with a republican bias, its definitive proof that those divided states has started its decline.

... relying on democratic appointed judges to act with a democratic bias, it’s definitive proof that those divided states has started its decline.

 

Lmao... that I can swing either way and still be right is even worse... and more indicative of a broken system. This is also why those Divided states are not deemed to be a true democracy, which takes a bit of a dump on those great founders of yours

[tifino]

the culling season has arrived early again...

 

[Sujo]

3 hours ago, Thaidream said:

Nixon was not impeached, however, the House Judiciary committee voted in favor of Articles of Impeachment but the full house never voted as Nixon resigned thus making  only 2 President Formally Impeaced (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton)   Both were acquitted in the Senate/

 

True. I stand corrected. Nixon was not impeached.

 

The headline of the op is correct. Trump is the 4th president to face impeachment. Nixon did face it.

[atyclb]

6 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

6 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

The Deep South Louisiana defeat of Trump’s man amid a looming impeachment investigation in November has plenty to matter. 

I am willing to let you go through life believing local elections matter in a presidential race.  You realize Trump isn't running in a gubernatorial race right?

 

not fair to pose such difficult questions here.

 

[Sujo]

17 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

not fair to pose such difficult questions here.

 

Not difficult. Trump campaigned for the guy. Said a vote for him is a vote for trump. Ho hum. Lost.

[atyclb]

11 minutes ago, Sujo said:

29 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

not fair to pose such difficult questions here.

 

Not difficult. Trump campaigned for the guy. Said a vote for him is a vote for trump. Ho hum. Lost.

 

simply amazing

 

are you too unaware of the question posed?

[Tippaporn]

1 hour ago, jany123 said:

 

2 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

It's the Dems who have stacked the appointed judges with Dem bias.  Trump is actually unstacking, meaning that he's reverting back to impartial judges, whilst we'all cheer it on.  So glad.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/05/politics/judiciary-by-party-courts-judges-us/index.html

 

Your compatriot ... tearful dick, was bragging on the affiliation of the judges, but hey, it’s always fun fact checking the followers of the liar in chief.

 

saying that, I’m happy to amend my earlier post...

2 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

relying on republican appointed judges to act with a republican bias, its definitive proof that those divided states has started its decline.

... relying on democratic appointed judges to act with a democratic bias, it’s definitive proof that those divided states has started its decline.

 

Lmao... that I can swing either way and still be right is even worse... and more indicative of a broken system. This is also why those Divided states are not deemed to be a true democracy, which takes a bit of a dump on those great founders of yours

Did you just falsify a quote from me:

 

2 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

relying on republican appointed judges to act with a republican bias, its definitive proof that those divided states has started its decline.

 

That's not my post.  Forum rules strongly prohibit altering people's quoted posts.

[jany123]

58 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Did you just falsify a quote from me:

 

 

That's not my post.  Forum rules strongly prohibit altering people's quoted posts.

Lol.... by now you should know that if someone lifts a segment from your post, then it will end up appearing as if it came from your post, even if it was a quote by another’s, that you decided to use, vs your actual ramblings.

 

Anyway.... That comment is quite obviously one made by me (or at least not by you)... you yourself quoted it at post 75 or there about, and it’s from that post that  I lifted my quotation... you must have forgotten.... do at least try.

 

Lol... right above that quotation insert I wrote “... I’m happy to amend my earlier post”. Im surprised that this did not register.

 

oh wait... no I’m not surprised... most of what is said to you doesn’t appear to register 

[Benmart]

17 hours ago, Tug said:

Easily the most deserving imo certainly the most corrupt in my lifetime so far

The only thing I am certain of, is that I am not privy to the facts; nor am I a US Constitutional Scholar, Licensed US Federal Attorney, US Federal Judge, mystic or other being that can determine guilt, fact, lie or deception in all this. As a native born, US Citizen of many decades; having served my country for over 30+ years, I have learned a few things. The media lies and distorts the truth, politicians lie and distorts the truth, government lies and distorts the truth and the general public seems to believe much of it. The formulation of judgement based on what is read and heard is questionable unless a person is naive enough not to question it.

[HuskerDo]

On 12/10/2019 at 7:42 PM, rgraham said:

Silly democrats, what a waste of resources for three years!

Are you saying that you actually consider Dems as "resources". I'll have to think about that for a while.