webfact Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Thais making life easier for Chinese tourists: Multiple Visas and online help starting imminently File photo Tourism Minister Pipat Ratchakitprakarn has revealed to the Thai media that his ministry has proposed visa stimulus measures for consideration by the economic affairs committee. If granted after a meeting next Tuesday this will mean Chinese tourists will be able to get multiple entry visas on arrival in Thailand. Initially this will run from New Year until January 25th - the date of Chinese New Year that comes earlier than usual in 2020. In addition Chinese people will be able to put their details into an electronic visa on arrival database before they commence their journeys to Thailand. This will ease pressure at visa counters at Thai airports as the data will already be in the system. Asked what measures are being considered to help Thai domestic tourism the minister said that they had received enough already. They had already got 1,000 baht on the Chim-Shop-Chai (Taste, Shop, Use) promotion and were getting 100 baht from the second round of "golden" stimulus measures that they could apply for today and tomorrow. Pipat's focus was clear - appeal to the Chinese to revive the sluggish tourism sector, notes Thaivisa. -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-12-11 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just so I'm clear, this weeks knee-jerk plan has reverted back to quantity of tourist rather than quality of tourist ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 The left not knowing what the right is doing, but who cares, we need tourism, grab the money, forget the westerners, they don't spend like the Chinese....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 The buffet restaurants up in Chiang Mai will be rubbing their hands in anticipation........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 And this while Immigration makes it harder for people from Taiwan to get a visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 There are numerous negative issues affecting the tourism industry in Thailand, very few of which are ever addressed. Rather than focus on things which will bring tourists back in numbers across the board, this smacks of a desperate attempt by TAT to get an increase in numbers, rather than focusing on improving the experience for those that do come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, zydeco said: And this while Immigration makes it harder for people from Taiwan to get a visa. My guess is the Thai government are kowtowing to Beijing and their ongoing propaganda against Taiwan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeEyedRaven Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 50 minutes ago, webfact said: Asked what measures are being considered to help Thai domestic tourism I think it went right over the Ministers head that the point behind the question was that the extra Chinese were going to provide next to no benefit to the numerous tourism related businesses who are already struggling with low numbers of their traditional clientele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, darksidedog said: There are numerous negative issues affecting the tourism industry in Thailand, very few of which are ever addressed. Rather than focus on things which will bring tourists back in numbers across the board, this smacks of a desperate attempt by TAT to get an increase in numbers, rather than focusing on improving the experience for those that do come. Does TAT really need any desperate measures to increase numbers, they just make them up don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhounan Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 We need to open our eyes, the world is changing, just as the world economic centre is shifting from west to east. In a West in perennial economic and financial crisis, because it is stubborn with the nihilistic and materialistic ideology of Neoliberalism, it is committing suicide with its own hands. While in the East there is a lot of money circulating, especially in China. So it's no wonder that everyone is trying to get this slice of the cake. When they get the money in Burundi, I bet everyone will start studying the language of Burundi and open markets with that country and we'll go and kiss the ass of local politicians. American capitalists are used to say Business is business. So, now, Chinese people have money, all pull down their pants. It's more logic and simple than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humbug Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, zhounan said: We need to open our eyes, the world is changing, just as the world economic centre is shifting from west to east. In a West in perennial economic and financial crisis, because it is stubborn with the nihilistic and materialistic ideology of Neoliberalism, it is committing suicide with its own hands. While in the East there is a lot of money circulating, especially in China. So it's no wonder that everyone is trying to get this slice of the cake. When they get the money in Burundi, I bet everyone will start studying the language of Burundi and open markets with that country and we'll go and kiss the ass of local politicians. American capitalists are used to say Business is business. So, now, Chinese people have money, all pull down their pants. It's more logic and simple than you think. all hail Winnie the Pooh, you can betcha the uighurs in nazi concentration camps would prefer western neoliberalism to ccp control and capture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelplatoon Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Ok. So in Chiang mai Chinese business means own resorts, own bus companies and own guides. Pray tell me, how Thais will benefit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, webfact said: In addition Chinese people will be able to put their details into an electronic visa on arrival database before they commence their journeys to Thailand. they will not be surprised by the database (control freak) request, very familiar to the Chinese, they have the same controlling system there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, webfact said: If granted after a meeting next Tuesday this will mean Chinese tourists will be able to get multiple entry visas on arrival in Thailand. all sounds good unfortunately the Chinese know the bad reputation of Thailand accidents, was all over the news there, their economy is slowing down as well.....TAT shouldn't expect to many of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Good news for under staffed boiler rooms ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE1 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: In addition Chinese people will be able to put their details into an electronic visa on arrival database before they commence their journeys to Thailand. I can't even get my 90 day report done online......Maybe I am the wrong nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 A troll post has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marqus12 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 46 minutes ago, humbug said: all hail Winnie the Pooh, you can betcha the uighurs in nazi concentration camps would prefer western neoliberalism to ccp control and capture i'm not thrilled neither by neoliberalism nor neostalinism but I bet there was a reason Uighurs were recognized as the fifth column capable of destabilizing mainland with the help of foreign powers. *And the camps were German, there is no such nationality as "Nazi" Correctly is "German style concentration camps" in this context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Clueless down to the bone. Instead of catering to quality they look only at quantity, this is not even shortsighted, this is just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 If there's one nationality that probably won't benefit from mutiple entry visas it's the Chinese. Yes, I know there are a few exceptions but the vast majority of Chinese only travel for five days at a time and spend that time at one or two centres and very few are repeat tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendijk Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I am not sure i understand why 'normal' chinese tourists need multiple entry visas? They come here by group tours or with family, stay much less then 30 days to go back home and start working again. The only people benefitting from this are possible long stayers and more scammers. In the meantime (farang) real spenders are being refused by the dozens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Chelseafan said: Just so I'm clear, this weeks knee-jerk plan has reverted back to quantity of tourist rather than quality of tourist ? Hardly knee-jerk, as all countries are continually creating new promotions. Thailand doesn't have to stop having any of its own lest TVF members decry them as "desperation." And then it turned out the quantity is also of better quality.????The previous "quality" is skint anyway and watching a lot of porn. Oh, well. 7 minutes ago, madmitch said: If there's one nationality that probably won't benefit from mutiple entry visas it's the Chinese. Yes, I know there are a few exceptions but the vast majority of Chinese only travel for five days at a time and spend that time at one or two centres and very few are repeat tourists. But a minority of 2 billion still amounts to a considerable number, you see--and even without repeats. The new promotion is only for the long New Year holiday during which Chinese factories are closed 2 - 4 weeks. So, not a bad idea, overall. If successful, could lead to another next year or even an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireland32 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, zydeco said: And this while Immigration makes it harder for people from Taiwan to get a visa. Kissing their Masters A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moti24 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Chelseafan said: Just so I'm clear, this weeks knee-jerk plan has reverted back to quantity of tourist rather than quality of tourist ? It hasn't reverted back anywhere; it's still all about money and tbe number of tourist arrivals. SSDD!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 it's all very simple - they do not whine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Chelseafan said: Just so I'm clear, this weeks knee-jerk plan has reverted back to quantity of tourist rather than quality of tourist ? That was the delusion, but it never really happened. What happened was just fewer people showed up. Today, they are looking at quantity, as that is where a business actually makes money. Thai government still thinks it can lure whales away from Macau to come to Thailand by showing pictures of beaches, rubbing of amulets and chanting amazing Thailand. Five years of military rules has made Thailand dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lahgon29 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, zhounan said: We need to open our eyes, the world is changing, just as the world economic centre is shifting from west to east. In a West in perennial economic and financial crisis, because it is stubborn with the nihilistic and materialistic ideology of Neoliberalism, it is committing suicide with its own hands. While in the East there is a lot of money circulating, especially in China. So it's no wonder that everyone is trying to get this slice of the cake. When they get the money in Burundi, I bet everyone will start studying the language of Burundi and open markets with that country and we'll go and kiss the ass of local politicians. American capitalists are used to say Business is business. So, now, Chinese people have money, all pull down their pants. It's more logic and simple than you think. Are you OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, zhounan said: In a West in perennial economic and financial crisis, because it is stubborn with the nihilistic and materialistic ideology of Neoliberalism, it is committing suicide with its own hands. The West does not have "perennial economic and financial crisis". The West consists of developed economies that can never achieve the growth rate of developing economies. Look at China. It started it's meteoric economic development adopting the capitalist principles the West's economic systems are built on. As it catches up to the West the growth rate slows down and in the will be more or less equal to that of the West. As for the "because it is stubborn with the nihilistic and materialistic ideology of Neoliberalism" mumbo jumbo it's hard to figure out what it even means. Suffice to say that all countries who have achieved/are achieving rapid economic growth have done so using the West's capitalist principles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterkroll Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, madmitch said: If there's one nationality that probably won't benefit from mutiple entry visas it's the Chinese. Yes, I know there are a few exceptions but the vast majority of Chinese only travel for five days at a time and spend that time at one or two centres and very few are repeat tourists. I agree. But even it is as what you said, it seems they are hoping for repeat visits. What it does, though, it sets a certain message. Even more westerners will stay away. Why should I put up with busloads of Chinese, wars at every public spot, etc.? I think I will turn to other beautiful destinations. Secondly, as we all know Chinese tend to favour Chinese owned hotels and restaurants. It's the same in other destinations in Asia. So why? Does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICELANDMAN Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, dendijk said: I am not sure i understand why 'normal' chinese tourists need multiple entry visas? They come here by group tours or with family, stay much less then 30 days to go back home and start working again. The only people benefitting from this are possible long stayers and more scammers. In the meantime (farang) real spenders are being refused by the dozens. Because farang have wrong nationality lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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