CNXexpat Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 A friend who lives in Thailand with a retirement visa forgot to buy a re-entry visa and left the country for 3 weeks. What he has to do now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fredob43 Posted December 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) I believe he will only get a 30 day one on his return and have to do his retirement visa again. Edited December 12, 2019 by fredob43 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I am assuming that your friend had an extension of his permission to stay based on retirement. If, instead, he has an unexpired visa, he can still use that to enter the country and has no need of a reentry permit. If he is entitled to a visa exempt entry (what is his nationality?) he will receive 30 days on arrival, and can do a conversion to non immigrant entry, followed by the new one-year extension based on retirement at his local immigration office. If not entitled to a visa exempt entry, he will need to get a visa from an overseas consulate before returning to Thailand. Best would probably be a single entry Non O visa if that is possible where he is spending those three weeks outside Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNXexpat Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, BritTim said: I am assuming that your friend had an extension of his permission to stay based on retirement. If, instead, he has an unexpired visa, he can still use that to enter the country and has no need of a reentry permit. If he is entitled to a visa exempt entry (what is his nationality?) he will receive 30 days on arrival, and can do a conversion to non immigrant entry, followed by the new one-year extension based on retirement at his local immigration office. If not entitled to a visa exempt entry, he will need to get a visa from an overseas consulate before returning to Thailand. Best would probably be a single entry Non O visa if that is possible where he is spending those three weeks outside Thailand. He is an US citizen. I am not sure if I understand you right. I, as a German, always buy a re-entry visa if I leave the country (2 times a year). So he has to go to the next Thai embassy or consulate and apply for a new single entry Non O visa. To enter the country as a normal tourist, go to the immigration office and talk to them is not a good idea I guess. Edited December 12, 2019 by CNXexpat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted December 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, CNXexpat said: He is an US citizen. Then he can enter Thailand on a Visa Exempt. His retirement Extension (it is not a Visa) is lost, and he must go through the same process he did initially to get a new one. He can do as you suggest, obtain a Non-Imm-O Visa from a nearby country Thai Embassy or Consulate, or convert a Visa Exempt Entry, to a Non_Imm-O, in Thailand using an immigration office or agent. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Regardless whether your friend arrives with a non-O visa or a tourist visa or visa-exempt, he will have to go to his immigration office to get back on yearly retirement extensions. The non-O visa will save him one step and THB 2,000 in this process. He should, however, avoid being talked into getting a non-immigrant visa O-A by the Thai embassy, as this would make it necessary for him to buy the newly required Thai health insurance. If they won't give him the non-O visa, the tourist visa or visa-exempt entry are his remaining choices. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 5 hours ago, CNXexpat said: He is an US citizen. If he is in the US now he will not be able to get a non-o visa anywhere while there. They do not issue them. His only choice will be to either apply for a single entry tourist visa or enter visa exempt. Then apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) entry at immigration. Then during the last 30 days of the 90 days apply for a new extension of stay based upon retirement. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott424 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 hours ago, ubonjoe said: If he is in the US now he will not be able to get a non-o visa anywhere while there. They do not issue them. His only choice will be to either apply for a single entry tourist visa or enter visa exempt. Then apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) entry at immigration. Then during the last 30 days of the 90 days apply for a new extension of stay based upon retirement. Joe, a friend of mine is under the impression he can get a Non-O from the Thai consulate in New York. Looking at the following website, it does appear to be available. You have to drill down to find the visa page, but this is what it says... http://www.thaiconsulnewyork.com/ NON-IMMIGRANT VISA VISA FEE US$80 (Single Entry) US$200 (Multiple Entry)(Cash or US Postal Service money order only) PERIOD OF STAY Permitted up to 90 days EXTENSION OF STAY The extension is allowed up to one year since your entry into Thailand. You must file a request at the Office of Immigration Bureau before your authorized stay expires. Extending your stay and changing the type of visa is solely at the discretion of the Immigration officer. Find out the Immigration Office near where you stay in Thailand. APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS 1. Visa application form (DOWNLOAD) 2. One passport-size photograph (2” x 2”) taken not more than 6 months. The photograph must show a light color background with a full-face view without wearing a hat or dark glasses. 3. Required documents to be submitted. To fine out your list of documents, please click at the corresponding purpose of your travel in the provided table below. Is this the official website for the consulate? Or if it is official, is the information out of date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack2326 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Is it true that the tm-8 reentry form is no longer needed to obtain the permit. Does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Scott424 said: Joe, a friend of mine is under the impression he can get a Non-O from the Thai consulate in New York. Looking at the following website, it does appear to be available. You have to drill down to find the visa page, but this is what it says... http://www.thaiconsulnewyork.com/ NON-IMMIGRANT VISA VISA FEE US$80 (Single Entry) US$200 (Multiple Entry)(Cash or US Postal Service money order only) PERIOD OF STAY Permitted up to 90 days EXTENSION OF STAY The extension is allowed up to one year since your entry into Thailand. You must file a request at the Office of Immigration Bureau before your authorized stay expires. Extending your stay and changing the type of visa is solely at the discretion of the Immigration officer. Find out the Immigration Office near where you stay in Thailand. APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS 1. Visa application form (DOWNLOAD) 2. One passport-size photograph (2” x 2”) taken not more than 6 months. The photograph must show a light color background with a full-face view without wearing a hat or dark glasses. 3. Required documents to be submitted. To fine out your list of documents, please click at the corresponding purpose of your travel in the provided table below. Is this the official website for the consulate? Or if it is official, is the information out of date? Scroll further down the page and you'll find it's not available for the purpose of retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jack2326 said: Is it true that the tm-8 reentry form is no longer needed to obtain the permit. Does anyone know? Depends entirely on your Immigration office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott424 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tanoshi said: Scroll further down the page and you'll find it's not available for the purpose of retirement. Thank you Tanoshi, I will point that out to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, Scott424 said: Joe, a friend of mine is under the impression he can get a Non-O from the Thai consulate in New York. Looking at the following website, it does appear to be available. You have to drill down to find the visa page, but this is what it says... That is only the general requirements. If you scroll down the page to non-o visas you will only see these 2 reasons for it to be issued. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott424 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Thanks Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post natway09 Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 If I have posted once, I have posted 1000 times, when you get your visa extension pop around & get a multiple reentry straight away. Then when anything should happen & need to leave unexpectedly already done. To those that say too expensive, maybe you are in the wrong country 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post statman78 Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 I recommend that he either enters visa exempt for 30 days or he gets a SETV. If he could get a non-imm O in the US I would not recommend it. There is more paperwork involved. When I came to Thailand From the US last year I entered with a SETV. I then went to my local immigration office here in Thailand and switched to the non-imm O. Much easier than getting it in the US. It was good for 90 days. During the last 30 days I applied and received my extension of stay based on retirement. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain 776 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 The Retirement Visa is finished, if u leave the country without multiple entry or re entry......it’s VOID. Have to completely start over....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSF Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 14 hours ago, natway09 said: If I have posted once, I have posted 1000 times, when you get your visa extension pop around & get a multiple reentry straight away. Then when anything should happen & need to leave unexpectedly already done. To those that say too expensive, maybe you are in the wrong country Agree entirely. Every year I renew my ret ex + multi re-entry. Then can come and go as often as I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, natway09 said: If I have posted once, I have posted 1000 times, when you get your visa extension pop around & get a multiple reentry straight away. Then when anything should happen & need to leave unexpectedly already done. To those that say too expensive, maybe you are in the wrong country Waste of time and money for many who just never leave Thailand. Leave unexpectedly, I will simply get one at the airport...... spending 3800 baht for something I am unlikely to use, well, I can use it elsewhere. Edited December 13, 2019 by jacko45k 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPG59 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 7:31 AM, ubonjoe said: If he is in the US now he will not be able to get a non-o visa anywhere while there. They do not issue them. His only choice will be to either apply for a single entry tourist visa or enter visa exempt. Then apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) entry at immigration. Then during the last 30 days of the 90 days apply for a new extension of stay based upon retirement. I got a 3-month single entry non-o visa in Miami this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 32 minutes ago, KPG59 said: I got a 3-month single entry non-o visa in Miami this year. Was that a single entry Non O for retirement, or for visiting Thai spouse/children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinca tinca Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 do you MEAN A RE ENTRY PERMIT?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinca tinca Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 IT IS NOT A RE-ENTRY VISA..... IT IS a re entry PERMIT......!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, tinca tinca said: IT IS NOT A RE-ENTRY VISA..... IT IS a re entry PERMIT......!!!!! Ok thanks he heard you the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinca tinca Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, jimn said: Ok thanks he heard you the first time. well you did not reply FIRST TIME !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 No because I have only just seen it, but the OP did. He sent me an urgent message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimewoodworker Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 2:55 PM, natway09 said: If I have posted once, I have posted 1000 times, when you get your visa extension pop around & get a multiple reentry straight away. Then when anything should happen & need to leave unexpectedly already done. To those that say too expensive, maybe you are in the wrong country No point in getting a multi re-entry if you have no plans to leave. If you want insurance against forgetting get a single 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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