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13 hours ago, zydeco said:

There is no deal. Terms will not made public. Each side will sign its own version of the "deal." Signing is supposed to be in January. All this was announced in October, remember, and was supposed to be signed then. There is no enforcement provision. All China does is to promise and try to hit buying targets. Trump OTOH has cancelled one set of tariffs and reduced an earlier set of tariffs. All for promises. China has made promises for the same things since Bill Clinton. And they never fulfill them. Trump traded his tariff leverage for nothing. US Trade Negotiator Lighthizer in fact says China only promised to buy $32 billion over two years. That is $1 billion less per year than they bought in 2017. Fat man was rolled.

 

That's a heap of opinionated speculation unless you have inside info on any of this. 

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On 12/13/2019 at 12:16 AM, zydeco said:

Yea, a list of failure:

North Korea

Venezuela

The Wall

DACA

Immigration moratorium

5 percent reduction in the deficit (BIGGEST LAUGH OF ALL!)

Budget sequester (LOL)

Birthright Citizenship Executive Order

Mexican Cartels designated as terrorist Executive Order

On and on and on and on.

Failure.

And people praising him for his success.

Remember the tariffs on steel and aluminum?  Check the stock prices of US Steel Corp (X) and Alcoa (AA) over the past 2 years to see how well that went.

 

Not to distract, but Moscow Mitch is bringing in a Russian metals company (Rusal) to his home state of Kentucky.  How's that for patriotism? 

 

 

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4 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

LOL...I'll believe the November jobs report over some biased study publicised by a Dem mouthpiece.

LOL - usual highly partisan nonsense encouraged by trump the destroyer.

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14 minutes ago, neeray said:

greedy western manufacturers started packing up their production equipment and sending it to China for operation by cheap labour.

Although the Westerner public  that bought those cheap Chinese goods were also pleased with the cheap price

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Troll posts and replies removed.   You may stop with the needless baiting and bickering.  

 

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10 hours ago, neeray said:

greedy western manufacturers started packing up their production equipment and sending it to China for operation by cheap labour.

Just like the fat man and his folks did........want to buy a MAGA cap going cheap!

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55 minutes ago, shenanigans997 said:

Really, you need to go back and look at the latest economic data, in particular the employment report, the tariffs have had no discernible impact in the states outside of farmers which have temporarily been subsidized. I would have preferred he just increase the tariffs to the point US corporations are forced to develop supply chains outside of China...there will never be fair trade with China.  

US numbers show trump tariffs on China so far has cost the US taxpayer approx US$80+ billion plus job losses. How long will it take to recoup the losses. trump Administration is well known to make misleading and false claims so what are the documented T&Cs the Chinese have allegedly agreed? Some US corporation have shifted some production to countries such as Vietnam, what is the net benefit to the US tax payer? BTW has the trump family ceased offshoring production of goods for their businesses? To add even after his election trump was still employing illegals, the man is a conman and criminal.

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And while Trump was folding on the trade deal, the Chinese have been expanding their inflitration of American military bases, educational institutions, and research facilities. Apparently, the Trump administration kept it all under wraps, afraid to publicly embarrass the Chinese. 

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The base intrusion took place in late September on a sensitive installation near Norfolk, Va. The base includes Special Operations forces, said the people with knowledge of the incident. Several bases in the area have such units, including one with the headquarters of the Navy’s elite SEAL Team Six.  Chinese citizens have been caught not just wandering on to government installations but also improperly entering university laboratories and even crossing farmland to pilfer specially bred seeds. In 2016, a Chinese man, Mo Hailong, pleaded guilty to trying to steal corn seeds from American agribusiness firms and give them to a Chinese company. Before he was caught, Mr. Mo successfully stole seeds developed by the American companies and sent them back to China, according to court records. He was sentenced to three years in prison.   https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-secretly-expelled-chinese-officials-suspected-of-spying-after-breach-of-military-base/ar-AAK8JgO

 

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3 hours ago, zydeco said:

And while Trump was folding on the trade deal, the Chinese have been expanding their inflitration of American military bases, educational institutions, and research facilities. Apparently, the Trump administration kept it all under wraps, afraid to publicly embarrass the Chinese. 

 

Allowing foreign nationals to inflitrate your military bases is just criminally careless.

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