Cake Monster Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 5 hours ago, DannyCarlton said: Who's overseeing the project? Sontaya Khunpluem, son of Somchai Khunpluem aka Kamnan Poh the most feared and notorious gangster in Chonburi, convicted of murder and corruption and never served a day in prison, and owner of chunks of Pattaya. Sontaya is also a favourite of Prayut, and served as his political advisor. Had previously served under Taksin. All brown envelopes will go to him. Have to payoff the Old mans debt of 120 Million somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apalink_thailand Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 so...the plan is to herd Chinese onto the monorail now is it? The only ones benefitting from this charade are the ones signing the deals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millymoopoo Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Reminds me of the Simpsons episode 'Monorail' and it will probably end up the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ddotmark Posted December 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2019 I am surprised nobody mentioned that Pattaya is seeking Chinese investment. Be very careful Pattaya officials. Chinese do not just give money away freely...they expect something big in return. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post apalink_thailand Posted December 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, ddotmark said: I am surprised nobody mentioned that Pattaya is seeking Chinese investment. Be very careful Pattaya officials. Chinese do not just give money away freely...they expect something big in return. Ya, just look at the state of Sihanoukville. Bought and paid for now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddotmark Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, apalink_thailand said: Ya, just look at the state of Sihanoukville. Bought and paid for now. Yes...that is exactly what I was thinking. When you take investment money from the Chinese, you are selling your sole. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 6 hours ago, petermik said: My goodness..if this ever gets off the planning stage the amount of brown envelopes going round is going to be astronomical The Chinese can afford it... after-all they're the ones being asked to fund it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRoadrunner Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Here it comes, the next thread will report .... “Baht bus drivers demonstrate against monorail.” The only reason Pattaya would get this project through is due to the profits the local Govt (mafia) are going to siphon off. There are a lot of other things Pattaya needs before a monorail, but there is no profit in it. Edited December 14, 2019 by DaRoadrunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiekerjozef Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Keep dreaming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffshoreMig Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Mono rails do not work. Just ask Sydney who pulled their out Baht-busses need to expand their options and apply a color coded route identification system. That is all. Yes a mCocorinated bus train interchange would be good. Mono rail costs too much and does not help move traffic volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jonnodon Posted December 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2019 Going to be fun waiting at the station for the one in front to move on , we know the Thais won’t leave till full. They will be backed up to the previous station . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemercer Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Many big cities built monorails 30 years ago. The Sydney loop used to be fantastic. The Simpsons even did an episode during the decade of 'monorail fever'. But they have all closed down. The economics just aren't viable. Pattaya is thinking 30 years behind the times! Edited December 14, 2019 by Stevemercer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 build some proper waste and septic facility, then actually hook up any new hotel or building and slowly do the same to existing buildings or businesses the probably will have some grandfathering period. Make that beach swimmable, and you will have tons of tourists. Monorail is lipstick on a pig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, smew said: Ugly and will destroy the sea view if build on or close to Beach road... a BIG BIG mistake !!!!!!!! I tend to agree. Have it run down 2nd would be better and leave the front open. Bangkok is rather unpleasant under the Skytrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterbilt Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Beggar said: About 10 years ago they planned a Monorail for Pattaya already. If I remember correctly we also had public busses and bus stations for them. Do they still exist? Yes, thats true. I don't remember the actual routes, but those buses came in red, yellow and green colour, each colour for a specific route. When I was in Pattaya (I was and I am there only for vacation) those buses were almost empty. A few of those bus stops still exist, at least on Beach Rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agood1963 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Desperate measures for a desperate country . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 climbing up 50 ft to travel a km seems a waste to me, better to jump on a songtel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I'm all for better public transportation but not that monstrosity. Better a lighter-scale tram and a re-working of the baht bus routes to cover roads and areas not served now. Reduce the number of taxi and motorbike taxi licenses--far too many clogging the streets slowing traffic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorCJ Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Baht buses are the best deal in Pattaya. Do not eliminate them unless there is an adequate substitute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Begging to China again-in ten years it will be a big Chinatown Edited December 14, 2019 by Redline 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autonuaq Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Thailand slowly step by step will get assimilated and become more andore into the chinese moneygrip and soon will be another chinese province. Chinese tactics and money realises what other not could to conquer Thailand. How sutpied they not recognized freed is all the was needed to conquer the Thai. Hope they wake up beofee it is too late like other countries found out what the chines help actually implies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Wow, will look very nice on Beach road ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will E Vormer Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Havent read the whole article but I take it someone thought it was a good idea to stick that on the seafront? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Beggar said: About 10 years ago they planned a Monorail for Pattaya already. If I remember correctly we also had public busses and bus stations for them. Do they still exist? The bus stop signs are still scattered around, rusting away, adding to the general rundown, out of order appearance of the town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Up and running in which month of 2023? Edited December 14, 2019 by Destiny1990 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Should be plenty of room on it as the tourist numbers are down !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shy coconut Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 4 hours ago, ddotmark said: Yes...that is exactly what I was thinking. When you take investment money from the Chinese, you are selling your sole. Something fishy about that comment!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 The boys at Pattaya‘s city hall must be smoking seriously good weed. Look at the incredible mess of this city. Central road a total Desaster and the Beach Road (possibly the only beach road on the planet which can get flooded) is being graced with a drainage pipe; one - I repeat ONE lane is open to traffic. Imagine the hell going lose every night and Xmas and New Year is around the corner. The underpass on Sukhumvit is more than proof that Thailand has many, many beautiful spots, advantages and skills but traffic planning and management is seriously not one of them, now or in the future! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNROAMIN Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Quote: "Chinese backing sought", forget Nostradamus, my prediction is that by 3000AD China will be the worlds supreme super power, leaving America some scraps on the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Will E Vormer said: Havent read the whole article but I take it someone thought it was a good idea to stick that on the seafront? If i understand the project there is 2 differents things one is a tram on the ground floor doing a loop beach road\2 road with an extension to Jontiem and the second is a monorail coming from the railway station (On the high speed line between the 3 airports) to the center of Pattaya and probably connected to the tram line (The Bali pier parking could be a good location for the connection) Anyway if they want a chance to success they need to stop issuing new taxi licences NOW for motrbikes, songthaews and others taxi, or they will be dealing with an army of desperate low thinking guys angry to lose their job and he could be a very dangerous and violent situation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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