Airbagwill Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I just did a search for road safety in Thailand on this forum and got very limited results. so I put in just one word instead - "carnage" and got hit after hit. I than went to a thesaurus web site and got a few synonyms. bloodshed butchery crime havoc killing mass murder slaughter slaying warfare annihilation blitz blood butchering extermination gore hecatomb holocaust homicide liquidation manslaughter murder offing rapine shambles wasting blood and guts blood bath search and destroy taking out What does all this mean? Well, when it comes to road safety, it seems a pretty good indicator of the paucity of thinking by the media and many contributors to Thaivisa as well. Evey time there is an RTI in Thailand the same set of confirmation bias, prejudice against the Thai nation, and the same old cliches are rolled out time and again by both TV contributors and the authorities. Nothing changes......has it not occurred to anyone that they are part of the reason that road safety shows no significant improvement in Thailand? The problem is simply not seen for what it is, but what those "experts" want it to be. To them, isn't a health problem, it is something to do with all other drivers but themselves. When people start to see the problem for what it is then maybe we will see less cliches and more constructive thought and criticism on the topic and, heaven forbid, an improvement in the situation. Common media less use of "carnage" and a bit more analysis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 sorry but the problem is caused by the mafia Thai police. and that is all there is to it. 100% on them for not enforcing the law and allowing Thais to do what ever they want on the highways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, NCC1701A said: sorry but the problem is caused by the mafia Thai police. and that is all there is to it. 100% on them for not enforcing the law and allowing Thais to do what ever they want on the highways. QED - an utterly incorrect assessment of the situation. Enforcement is only one part of the problem, and looking at single issues has proved hopeless for the past 20 years, yet people still cling to the vain hope that this increasingly complex situation can be explained by one single ill-thought out solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Airbagwill said: QED - an utterly incorrect assessment of the situation. Enforcement is only one part of the problem, and looking at single issues has proved hopeless for the past 20 years, yet people still cling to the vain hope that this increasingly complex situation can be explained by one single ill-thought out solution. ok. thank you. you are entitled to your opinion. i would not have responded in such unilateral way but that is just me. have a nice topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 oh there is one word i forgot. Corruption. Corruption is the source of almost everything that seems so incomprehensible in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: oh there is one word i forgot. Corruption. Corruption is the source of almost everything that seems so incomprehensible in Thailand. So people die of corruption? Just think how that actually affects road safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: you are entitled to your opinion "Entitled"?? An opinion is usually something based on reason and evidence, just blurting out a statement isn't an opinion, it needs to be based on some logic not just some false syllogism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: unilateral How is it unilateral? I would suggest if any comment was "unilateral" it would have been yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 I think it's very telling that the first reply on this post was exactly the cliched perspective I was referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRoadrunner Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, NCC1701A said: sorry but the problem is caused by the mafia Thai police. and that is all there is to it. 100% on them for not enforcing the law and allowing Thais to do what ever they want on the highways. It’s in their upbringing. Thai males are allowed to do what they like with no discipline.... Then they get into a car! Compare this to the strict upbringing of a Thai girl….. Speak when you are spoken to, keep your head down, your mouth shut and your knees together and you will be alright girl! We should not complain though, if they were brought up western style we would not be here enjoying love in a duty free zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 8 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said: It’s in their upbringing. Thai males are allowed to do what they like with no discipline.... Then they get into a car! Compare this to the strict upbringing of a Thai girl….. Speak when you are spoken to, keep your head down, your mouth shut and your knees together and you will be alright girl! We should not complain though, if they were brought up western style we would not be here enjoying love in a duty free zone. Yet another cliche about driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 Let's forget about Thai bashing, bad drivers and racist remarks disguised as criticisms of Thai "culture". These are the underlying factors in road safety as identified by the WHO using scientifically validated evidence "The core components of Save LIVES are Speed management, Leadership on road safety, Infrastructure design and improvement, Vehicle safety standards, Enforcement of traffic laws and Survival after a crash. These components are interrelated and need to be implemented in an integrated manner, following the Safe System Approach, to effectively address the problem of road traffic deaths and injuries." - WHO countries that don't spend time on blame and other cliches have be far the safest roads - it's about time the Thai authorities took their heads out of the sand and embraced the scientific approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creasy Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Another thread with a multi quoter just trolling other posters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 11 hours ago, NCC1701A said: sorry but the problem is caused by the mafia Thai police. and that is all there is to it. 100% on them for not enforcing the law and allowing Thais to do what ever they want on the highways. Caused by reliance on motorcycles and rural roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 10 hours ago, NCC1701A said: oh there is one word i forgot. Corruption. Corruption is the source of almost everything that seems so incomprehensible in Thailand. The source of that which is incomprehensible in Thailand is Animism, beliefs in the spirit world, ancestor worship, Taoism, Buddhism. Corruption is relative. One of the most corrupt countries in the world is the UK, Russia, the USA. Thailand is just an amateur really but a lot more charming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 From the OP: Well, when it comes to road safety, it seems a pretty good indicator of the paucity of thinking by the media and many contributors to Thaivisa as well. Evey time there is an RTI in Thailand the same set of confirmation bias, prejudice against the Thai nation, and the same old cliches are rolled out time and again by both TV contributors and the authorities.Nothing changes......has it not occurred to anyone that they are part of the reason that road safety shows no significant improvement in Thailand? Common media less use of "carnage" and a bit more analysis! The members' opinions on Thaivisa are not likely going to change road safety here. Better to convince the media and the Thai authorities to put forth public safety notices to encourage road safety to reduce the carnage and for the authorities to do a better job of enforcing traffic violations. //Closed// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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