webfact Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 To intervene or not? Man dies after trying to break up quarrel Picture: Thai Rath A man who tried to intervene in an argument between a man and his girlfriend was stabbed to death in Bangkok last night. Now the couple have disappeared as police try to find them. Violence erupted near the end of Petchaburi Road Soi 22 in Bangkok around 9.30 pm. A man was arguing with the female owner of a spicy salad (yam) stall next to a mobile phone shop. The man was Manit, 39, and the woman was his Vietnamese girlfriend called An. Nui, 28, said he had finished work and gone to see his friend at the mobile shop. A group of five people were drinking outside the shop that is next to the yam stall. Manit arrived and there was trouble but it subsided. However it flared up again and several of the drinkers in the group tried to intervene. Manit picked up an eight inch knife and went for all of them. Khajornjit, 37, didn't flee in time and was stabbed twice in the side and twice in the chest. The knife was found at the end of the soi. Manit disappeared on a motorcycle and his girlfriend An is missing too. Nui said that the man with the knife had yelled: "Don't interfere - it's between me and her". Khajornjit did interfere and paid with his life. Police and rescue services found him barely alive at the scene and he later succumbed in Rathchawithi Hospital. Source: Thai Rath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-12-16 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Jesus wept, rest in peace good man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 For me, if i see two thais quarreling i let it be, not my place to intervene specially when not knowing who's the aggressor and who's the other guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Sad to say, it really is best here to keep right out of any form of aggravation whatsoever, regardless of who is involved. Doing the right thing is highly likely to see you hurt or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Angry Thai man + weapons close by = don't start telling him what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayluttman Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, mauGR1 said: Jesus wept, rest in peace good man. I have been living here for twenty years and would never intervene it always ends badly especially if you're a farang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, rayluttman said: I have been living here for twenty years and would never intervene it always ends badly especially if you're a farang. I agree. Once i intervened to stop a fight between 2 Thai neighbours, and i ended up being hated by both of them. Not sure i would do that again ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, ezzra said: For me, if i see two thais quarreling i let it be, not my place to intervene specially when not knowing who's the aggressor and who's the other guy... Funny thing is, most weapons training for cvilians emphasizes that you generally NOT intervene in even violent disputes if you yourself are carrying a weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 51 minutes ago, webfact said: Violence erupted near the end of Petchaburi Road Soi 22 in Bangkok around 9.30 pm. A man was arguing with the female owner of a spicy salad (yam) stall next to a mobile phone shop. The man was Manit, 39, and the woman was his Vietnamese girlfriend called An. At the same time they charge the man for murder, they can also charge his vietnamese girlfriend for selling spicy salad/yam without work permit due to that is a work only allowed for Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 NOTE TO SELF: Time to change your old ways. Don't intervene. Don't try to help. Will probably be injurious to self. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, darksidedog said: Sad to say, it really is best here to keep right out of any form of aggravation whatsoever, regardless of who is involved. Doing the right thing is highly likely to see you hurt or worse. Totally agree and I have seen fights here on a few occasions and have been tempted to intervene, especially where the numbers are not even, but then recall the number of times I have seen completely innocent bystanders being set upon just because they thought they might be able to help. There is no rhyme nor reason to some of these quarrels and fights, so better to stay away completely or perhaps risk losing one's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schvonsky1 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, darksidedog said: Sad to say, it really is best here to keep right out of any form of aggravation whatsoever, regardless of who is involved. Doing the right thing is highly likely to see you hurt or worse. Agree however we all Carry phones that can record from a distance come on use some intelligence a guy is freakin’ dead now !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Some offensive posts of a denigrating nature toward Thai people have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dddave Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 A good friend died this exact way on New Year's eve, more than 30 years ago. He was a good guy who was always helping people. The really infuriating part was the woman he was trying to help turned on him and helped her boyfriend kill him. The woman never did jail time. The man was back on the streets in less than 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 hours ago, rayluttman said: I have been living here for twenty years and would never intervene it always ends badly especially if you're a farang. What if it's between your wife and her son you will stand by and watch?Never is a big word when misused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mserror Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, dddave said: A good friend died this exact way on New Year's eve, more than 30 years ago. He was a good guy who was always helping people. The really infuriating part was the woman he was trying to help turned on him and helped her boyfriend kill him. The woman never did jail time. The man was back on the streets in less than 2 years. This is common, and advice from a policeman friend was not to get involved in couple fights. And sometimes the woman is more angry and violent, people just see them fighting, and the man is trying to protect himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: What if it's between your wife and her son you will stand by and watch?Never is a big word when misused. A lover's quarrel in public is one of my favourite forms of free entertainment. The best one I ever witnessed was on a public bus in the rush hour, between a couple arguing about the number and make-up of the wedding guests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJPom Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 At my age I will step back and not interfere, the odds are very much in favour of the younger man. Many ,many years ago I did interfere and ended up in Casualty with broken fingers and a large Policeman warning me to get my story right as I could be charged with GBH, the only instance in my life where I could say , you should see the other chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, dddave said: A good friend died this exact way on New Year's eve, more than 30 years ago. He was a good guy who was always helping people. The really infuriating part was the woman he was trying to help turned on him and helped her boyfriend kill him. The woman never did jail time. The man was back on the streets in less than 2 years. Sorry to hear about your friend. Learned my lesson many years ago in the UK. First time was walking with a group of friends and we heard a female screaming from down an alleyway. People looking but doing nothing. 5 of us went down the alley into a big square. Lad had a girl pinned in the corner. We surrounded him and asked if she was o k - she spewed the most vitriolic obscene verbal attack on us and told us to f'off. Which we did. Second time I was walking in the city center about 3.30 am after finishing working at a night club with one of my mates. We saw a man hitting a lady who was sitting on the floor screaming and crying. Over we went. My mate told the man to stop, he drunkenly swung at my mate, who was stone cold sober, and got floored with one punch. The woman jumped up, took her shoe off and started laying into my mate. The police told us this was a regular occurrence with drunk couples. Nowadays, with telecoms as they are, call the police and film for evidence to help them. Put your life on the line and you may well loose and get little thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Dough Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I intervened in a fight just yesterday. I grounded my six year old for an hour but let the three year old off. Rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Don't get involved. It's a no win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjoo888 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Police always say the most dangerous situations they face are domestic violence calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Jane Dough said: I intervened in a fight just yesterday. I grounded my six year old for an hour but let the three year old off. Rooster You realize it’s usually the younger ones that are the trouble makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 7 hours ago, darksidedog said: Sad to say, it really is best here to keep right out of any form of aggravation whatsoever, regardless of who is involved. Doing the right thing is highly likely to see you hurt or worse. This why you see so many Thais standing by taking a video or photo... they know all too well what can happen if you step into another persons quarrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 7 hours ago, mauGR1 said: I agree. Once i intervened to stop a fight between 2 Thai neighbours, and i ended up being hated by both of them. Not sure i would do that again ???? Me too. Very similar experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Me too. Very similar experience. No good deed goes unpunished, as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluek Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Worth saying that it's not only in Thailand where getting involved in an altercation between strangers can be dangerous. Back in the States my one-time roommate pushed a drunk guy after seeing him slap a woman on the sidewalk after the bars closed late at night. The drunk laid into him, and roomie stumbled home with a broken jaw, broken nose, several broken teeth and eyes so swollen he could barely see. I took him straight to the ER but his face has never looked the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 8 hours ago, dddave said: A good friend died this exact way on New Year's eve, more than 30 years ago. He was a good guy who was always helping people. The really infuriating part was the woman he was trying to help turned on him and helped her boyfriend kill him. The woman never did jail time. The man was back on the streets in less than 2 years. From what I understand is that a domestic situation is the one most hated by police. The perps hate each other in the heat of the moment then suddenly hate everyone else when they step in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 When the Thais lose face, it is really them losing control of their emotions and they go into a rage. That is when it is dangerous to even be around them. Best thing to do is move away to another place and let them cool down. Been there, see that happen. I have never tried to help any who are fighting other than get out of their way. Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 12/16/2019 at 9:53 AM, Matzzon said: At the same time they charge the man for murder, they can also charge his vietnamese girlfriend for selling spicy salad/yam without work permit due to that is a work only allowed for Thais. Need a 'swoop' first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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