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9 minutes ago, Leaver said:

If I ran a poll and asked, how many beers would you have on a night out, averaged, and how many establishments would you go into, to drink those beers, averaged, do you think it would really equal out to one beer per establishment?

 

I don't think so. 

 

Unless there is something really wrong with the bar, like a bar I went into on Soi 6 recently, the music was that loud that I struggled to order a drink, so I just walked out, the maths equation above would see people have more than one beer in each establishment, so I don't know what the big problem is with the 2 for 1 business model, but happy to hear the argument against it.

Two arguments:

 

It's only fair to the customer if he drinks beers in multiples of 2.

 

What incentive is it to the customer when the price of 2 beers is double the price of one beer in a nearby establishment?

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Leaver said:

If I ran a poll and asked, how many beers would you have on a night out, averaged, and how many establishments would you go into, to drink those beers, averaged, do you think it would really equal out to one beer per establishment?

 

I don't think so. 

 

Unless there is something really wrong with the bar, like a bar I went into on Soi 6 recently, the music was that loud that I struggled to order a drink, so I just walked out, the maths equation above would see people have more than one beer in each establishment, so I don't know what the big problem is with the 2 for 1 business model, but happy to hear the argument against it.

Are you saying that your large floor area bar with live music (that had better be good) and large sports screen TV is going to be sustainable - without sexy available ladies there?  Edit: It would only be successful if it included a freelancer venue.

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10 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Are you saying that your large floor area bar with live music (that had better be good) and large sports screen TV is going to be sustainable - without sexy available ladies there?  

Triangle Bar is, but I would say their clientele is mainly expats, most of whom would have a partner, and not really into mongering these days.

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19 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Two arguments:

 

It's only fair to the customer if he drinks beers in multiples of 2.

 

What incentive is it to the customer when the price of 2 beers is double the price of one beer in a nearby establishment?

 

 

Even if a customer didn't like either of these bars, it's no big deal drinking the second beer and leaving.

 

Both bars are easily seen from the street, so most people would know if the bar appeals to them, or not, before setting foot in the place, plus, there's 2 for 1 signage everywhere. 

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24 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I would stay away from the maths argument if I was you, more than one isn't always an even number you know! And the 'for one' option doesn't even exist. Your original inclusion of 65 baht beers does not exist in either establishment you mentioned. Nearby it does, although these would be simply drinking places. 

 

If all patrons were having more than one beer, I simply fail to see the point of the 2 for 1 arrangement, other than saving the cashier effort. 

It's all about the maths argument for these establishments.

 

Their margins are so small per sale, they need a high turnover of sales, and that means customers buying two beers, minimum.

 

You conveniently left out the live entertainment and sport on TV's.  You have still not named another bar in the area offering these, and having 65 or 70 baht beers.   

 

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Just now, Leaver said:

Even if a customer didn't like either of these bars, it's no big deal drinking the second beer and leaving.

 

Both bars are easily seen from the street, so most people would know if the bar appeals to them, or not, before setting foot in the place, plus, there's 2 for 1 signage everywhere. 

In Triangle, there's NO 2 for 1 signage apart from a vague reference on the bar towels on the tables. Who reads bar towels before they order a drink?

 

You still haven't answered the question, "What if you want 3, 5 beers?"

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1 minute ago, DannyCarlton said:

In Triangle, there's NO 2 for 1 signage apart from a vague reference on the bar towels on the tables. Who reads bar towels before they order a drink?

 

You still haven't answered the question, "What if you want 3, 5 beers?"

Like I said, Triangle is mainly for expats, and they know it's 2 for 1.  I accept the signage there is not as noticeable as Billabong.

 

I, and I suggest, many others, don't go to these bars for 3 or 5 beers.  I'll call in and have two beers, or in the case of Billabong, stay for a couple of sets of the band, because they are good, and have 4 or maybe 6. 

 

If it's such a bad business model, where are they busy?  It seems to attract more customers than it turns away.     

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2 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Like I said, Triangle is mainly for expats, and they know it's 2 for 1.  I accept the signage there is not as noticeable as Billabong.

 

I, and I suggest, many others, don't go to these bars for 3 or 5 beers.  I'll call in and have two beers, or in the case of Billabong, stay for a couple of sets of the band, because they are good, and have 4 or maybe 6. 

 

If it's such a bad business model, where are they busy?  It seems to attract more customers than it turns away.     

Billabong is busy because it's the place for meeting freelancers.

 

Triangle, I really don't know. Maybe ideal location for monging on Amon across the road? Certainly not the band, who only perform for a small percentage of the time that they are open and are loud and awful. Disagree that the customer base is mainly expats.

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23 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Billabong is busy because it's the place for meeting freelancers.

 

Triangle, I really don't know. Maybe ideal location for monging on Amon across the road? Certainly not the band, who only perform for a small percentage of the time that they are open and are loud and awful. Disagree that the customer base is mainly expats.

The freelancers in Billabong a not pretty.  Many guys bar fine a girl from somewhere else and go to Billabong to party.

 

Every time I have gone into Triangle, I see many of the same faces.  I doubt they holiday to Thailand every couple of weeks.  Indeed, I will meet up with other expats in Triangle, before going our separate ways, or I leave them there and head off to LK. 

 

The band in Billabong is better than the band in Triangle, but they are not awful as you say. 

 

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7 hours ago, Leaver said:

It's all about the maths argument for these establishments.

 

Their margins are so small per sale, they need a high turnover of sales, and that means customers buying two beers, minimum.

 

You conveniently left out the live entertainment and sport on TV's.  You have still not named another bar in the area offering these, and having 65 or 70 baht beers.   

 

And you have conveniently not mentioned any, never mind another. Isn't there a new place on Soi Honey, and one opposite Champagne on LK Metro?  I don't mind paying a few baht more....

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6 hours ago, jacko45k said:

And you have conveniently not mentioned any, never mind another. Isn't there a new place on Soi Honey, and one opposite Champagne on LK Metro?  I don't mind paying a few baht more....

I can't mention any, because there are no bars around that area offering live music, with the sport of TV's, normal staff, and 65 baht beers. 

 

Last time I took a stroll down Soi Honey, I didn't see any bars with live music.  If there is a bar on that Soi now offering live music, what is its name, I will check it out. 

 

I also don't mind paying more for a beer.  I go to Billabong for the band, not the 2 for 1.  If that band stopped playing there, I probably would stop going there.

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Sat in the Avenue now. No sign of any bar area being constructed. In fact it looks identical to how it did in December. 
 

and hopefully it stays that way, I love it

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47 minutes ago, Jajazazajaja said:

Sat in the Avenue now. No sign of any bar area being constructed. In fact it looks identical to how it did in December. 
 

and hopefully it stays that way, I love it

It's not the end of March yet.  They have 2 more weeks for completion.  🤣

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10 minutes ago, Leaver said:

It's not the end of March yet.  They have 2 more weeks for completion.  🤣


I can’t be bothered to read the whole thread,  but the woman in Starbucks said the whole thing was cancelled.

true?

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