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5 hours ago, P Funk said:

How did the hospital justify the surcharge?

that's an easy one - he farang he have money maak maak

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Hospitals, listed on the stock market, overcharging sick people and double charging Farang.

 

Question is, what can we do about it?

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17 hours ago, Queenslander said:

The other day I visited one the BKK hospital chain. Staff excellent treatment excellent. Time taken for treatment 15 minutes, mild infection.

7 X antibiotic tablets (normal retail price for 10 = 80 THB) = 1351 THB.

Fair price that a Thai could afford...methinks not! 

Yes, private "healthcare" is all about profit maximalisation.

You could always go to a state hospital and stop supporting private hospitals and money grabbing insurance companies.

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11 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

I would propose that the regulation is illegal. It is also racist.

 

While I am at it; forcing foreigners to buy health insurance from Thai companies as a condition of getting your Visa is also probably illegal. People have a right to buy insurance anywhere they like.

 

How do we get our rights? Oh, we have no rights.... TIT.

It seems to be not legal to force any resident of Thailand to buy health insurance............

Tax registered,  amphur registered foreigners are residents.

 

It is rather obvious, all this health insurance noise is about enriching insurance companies, in no way it is helping the state hospitals to cope with unpaid bills, simply because it are not the expats or tourists but the illegal workforce that are to blame for nearly all the unpaid bills.

 

A simple 500 Baht extra on any extension of stay would have paid for the unpaid bills, a state controlled insurance for foreigners only valid in state hospitals would have been ideal for the ailing state hospital fund.

Instead the "poor" insurance companies must be "helped".

 

I wonder, all policies ordered in this scheme pay Out a maximum of 400,000 Baht inpatient and 40,000 Baht outpatient.

Having 440,000 Baht in the bank to cover the amount must be the same, I think.

 

In my case, due to my age, the insurance was cancelled.

The premium was around 25,000 per year.

The same company offered me the new policy, with a lot of exceptions, for 104,345 baht per year......

No thank you.

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I think TheDutchEngineer is right to pursue this.  Unless people (or policies) are held accountable then two-tier pricing and gouging will just continue.  And this is the worst kind of exploitation too, of sick and injured people.  If the extra money was going to hospital coffers then it’s a policy issue.  If the directors were benefitting financially then it is criminal corruption and they should be punished.

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Queen Sirikit charge much more that 50 percent. First time a few years ago went there for a simple hernia operation. Total price just over 12.000 baht. 6 month ago went there again for same type of operation (the other side) and I was quoted 100.000 baht. Aprox. 800 percent increase. They do have a sign telling that no Thai will get charged 50 percent more.

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On 12/19/2019 at 5:39 PM, Tropposurfer said:

I just got quoted around 26K AUD for right hip replacement by Vejthani Hospital in bkk lol 😆

same frigin price as Australia.

What a laugh.  
I know I can get it for as low as 12K, 7K in one of India’s best private orthopaedic hospitals.

talk about Thai’s shooting themselves in the foot ... again haha.

Same with dental implants and crowns nowadays, became insane expensive. 

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On 12/19/2019 at 10:50 PM, Inn Between said:

What a sick  and twisted approach to life in Thailand where people sit in their offices and decide to bilk a man suffering with cancer for bogus reasons -- pure lies. Then when they're caught, they shamelessly ignore the court and punishment they were given knowing that since a farang is involved, they'll get full cooperation from the legal system to do whatever they wish.

 

Do most Thais have a broken moral compass or do they simply go through life without one?

Its a sick world. But as the saying goes ... Doctors bury their mistakes. And Thai doctors.... I will let you write your own ending as you wish!

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The directors appear to have been transferred possibly to Nakhon Pathom as the courts drag their feet and the case appears to have gone cold. 

 

I bet three of my Mia Nois that this never happened. How would the Dutch guy even find that out?

 

   Lies over lies. And they call themselves Buddhist.  

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44 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

wonder why the foreigner numbers are dropping as such ?

That's only a strange example. Overcharging of 13 k is a criminal matter.

 

   I wish I had the money foreigners pay more than Thais for anything in only one day all over Thailand.

 

  And I might even top Bill Gates.  

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On 12/20/2019 at 10:08 AM, hansnl said:

It seems to be not legal to force any resident of Thailand to buy health insurance............

Tax registered,  amphur registered foreigners are residents.

 

It is rather obvious, all this health insurance noise is about enriching insurance companies, in no way it is helping the state hospitals to cope with unpaid bills, simply because it are not the expats or tourists but the illegal workforce that are to blame for nearly all the unpaid bills.

 

A simple 500 Baht extra on any extension of stay would have paid for the unpaid bills, a state controlled insurance for foreigners only valid in state hospitals would have been ideal for the ailing state hospital fund.

Instead the "poor" insurance companies must be "helped".

 

I wonder, all policies ordered in this scheme pay Out a maximum of 400,000 Baht inpatient and 40,000 Baht outpatient.

Having 440,000 Baht in the bank to cover the amount must be the same, I think.

 

In my case, due to my age, the insurance was cancelled.

The premium was around 25,000 per year.

The same company offered me the new policy, with a lot of exceptions, for 104,345 baht per year......

No thank you.

It is rather obvious, all this health insurance noise is about enriching insurance companies, in no way it is helping the state hospitals to cope with unpaid bills, simply because it are not the expats or tourists but the illegal workforce that are to blame for nearly all the unpaid bills.

 

  It's true that the cheap labor from neighboring country who very seldom even have any type of insurance even doing very dangerous jobs have caused the big minus in the hospitals.

 

   Then they make up numbers of foreigners who didn't pay their bills and blame us?

 

   It's all to make the richer even more rich and the poor will go down the drain. As usual. 

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