rooster59 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 SRT plans to buy 184 AC diesel trains By THE NATION The State Railways of Thailand (SRT) will propose to the board on January 16 a plan to procure 184 air-conditioned diesel trains at a budget of Bt20 billion. SRT acting governor Worawut Mala said that the state agency would submit the revised plan to the board. In a separate matter, he said civil work construction of the double track railways is on course. It is estimated that the construction of the first phase of the three routes will be gradually finished and in operation in 2024. The first phase of the development of the southern Nakhon Pathom-Chumphon route is expected to be finished in 2021, and the northern Lop Buri-Pak Nam Po route in 2022. The first-phase construction of the Isaan segment of the Map Kaboa-Jira Junction route is expected to be completed in 2023. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/business/30379948 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-12-29 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 unfortunately we forgot the electricity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Chazar said: unfortunately we forgot the electricity Electricity in thailand is intermittent.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Chazar said: unfortunately we forgot the electricity Diesel trains don't need electricity...they can make their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Do they come with the dents already in them like the one in the photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 This is a much smarter purchase than subs, tanks, Stryker vehicles and big guns. And the "kick back" is probably just about the same. Generallylspeaking, a win/win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, marko kok prong said: Do they come with the dents already in them like the one in the photo? ??? perhaps an unintended consequence of kickbacks ? I'd suppose those are also a design feature included (for cost) to the rear of a car to increase aerodynamics, prevent rust on the rails and reduce global climate change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Vacuum said: Electricity in thailand is intermittent.... So are the trains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 I wander if that is 184 trains - 2,3 or more car sets - or 184 individual carriages? Either way it makes sense,; there is little point in increasing route capacity by doubling the track if you don't have the rolling stock to operate the extra trains on those routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Vacuum said: Electricity in thailand is intermittent.... Back handers aren't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, PatOngo said: Back handers aren't! Correct, hence the introduction of the 10% biodiesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 8 hours ago, johng said: Diesel trains don't need electricity...they can make their own. Enjoy breathing in the diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 8 hours ago, neeray said: This is a much smarter purchase than subs, tanks, Stryker vehicles and big guns. And the "kick back" is probably just about the same. Generallylspeaking, a win/win. no win as not electric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, Chazar said: no win as not electric Of course they are not electric. As pointed out in earlier posts the electricity supply is not 100% reliable and to buy electric trains for use is a waste of money, unless you are going to electrify the entire rail network and build the power stations to supply the power. Of course you need to build "clean" power stations which of course are more expensive. That needs to be done before you buy the trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, billd766 said: Of course they are not electric. As pointed out in earlier posts the electricity supply is not 100% reliable and to buy electric trains for use is a waste of money, unless you are going to electrify the entire rail network and build the power stations to supply the power. Of course you need to build "clean" power stations which of course are more expensive. That needs to be done before you buy the trains. who would of thought it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chazar said: who would of thought it Any farang with the least bit of intelligence and probably a lot of Thai engineers as well, which is why they ordered diesels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinthebox Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 12 hours ago, Chazar said: unfortunately we forgot the electricity unfortunately we forgot standard gauge. So Thailand trains will not only be stinky-diesel powered but also bumpy uncomfortable at speed above 90kph until the end of the century ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 3 hours ago, billd766 said: Any farang with the least bit of intelligence and probably a lot of Thai engineers as well, which is why they ordered diesels. breath it all in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I'd settle for a couple of extra carriages on the BTS. I visit Bangkok three or four times a year & have done for the last dozen years. I have yet to sit down despite being 77 now - none of the seated (mainly Thai) refuse to look up from their phones lest they are required to give up their seat. Maybe if I wore saffron ....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 19 hours ago, billd766 said: Of course they are not electric. As pointed out in earlier posts the electricity supply is not 100% reliable and to buy electric trains for use is a waste of money, unless you are going to electrify the entire rail network and build the power stations to supply the power. Of course you need to build "clean" power stations which of course are more expensive. That needs to be done before you buy the trains. You would last 1 day on a planning team here. You buy them then admire them for a while, and wait until the next phase kicks in. ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 We need clarification of what 184 will comprise of, is it 184 carriages that can be pulled behind locomotives, 184 sets of carriages or 184 units including motor units and carriage unitS to run as sets. Now I am going to be forced to read the linked article to put my mind at rest...... ???? PS: After reading the link I am still in the dark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 12/29/2019 at 6:26 AM, rooster59 said: SRT plans to buy 184 AC diesel trains Looks like Thailand will be able to burn up its palm oil surplus in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Holland has many used ones for sale....not sure if they have aircon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, fruitman said: Holland has many used ones for sale....not sure if they have aircon.. If they have 184 then they should send the white shoe brigade over to negotiate. I am sure the Thai's can convert them from standard gauge to Dinky toy gauge. Just imagine how much tea money would be in that deal! Crikey, I would be happy with the cut on all the grinding and cutting disks and welding rods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 12/29/2019 at 10:23 AM, marko kok prong said: Do they come with the dents already in them like the one in the photo? Made by Landrover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 37 minutes ago, Grumpy John said: If they have 184 then they should send the white shoe brigade over to negotiate. I am sure the Thai's can convert them from standard gauge to Dinky toy gauge. Just imagine how much tea money would be in that deal! Crikey, I would be happy with the cut on all the grinding and cutting disks and welding rods. They have 48 of them, Roemenia had bought them but they never came to pick them up so now they are for sale again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 12/29/2019 at 7:01 PM, billd766 said: Of course they are not electric. As pointed out in earlier posts the electricity supply is not 100% reliable and to buy electric trains for use is a waste of money, unless you are going to electrify the entire rail network and build the power stations to supply the power. Of course you need to build "clean" power stations which of course are more expensive. That needs to be done before you buy the trains. Why not Diesel/electric locomotives ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 48 minutes ago, Don Mega said: Made by Landrover. Ahhh,of course,the rugged look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said: Why not Diesel/electric locomotives ? When they write diesel... it is a given they mean diesel-electric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, tifino said: When they write diesel... it is a given they mean diesel-electric Maybe ...Maybe not ; there are many sort of locomotives diesel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_locomotive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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