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I was in Sukothai recently for two job interviews for positions as an english teacher, 

 

Long story short I was short listed at a pretty prestigious government high school there as well as a private school owned by a Chinese gentleman and his family. 

 

For those who have experience teaching in Thailand is there a direction I should be going? Is one considered better than another? The government school was incredibly straight laced and I sat in a room for 3 hours with a half dozen Middle aged Thai woman who picked apart pretty much every aspect of me they could. In the end they came to the decision they are willing to fire the current teacher to hire me, would be at the end of March. The private school offered me the job on the spot after an interview. 

 

My plan is still the NGO route but options are good and I am malleable and willing to work wherever doing whatever on top of boxing and my volunteer work. 

 

TLDR: government, highschool vs Chinese/Thai primary school (private)

 

cheers! 

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35-40 contact hours? 
 

is that the norm these days? Even if that was periods, that’s still seems a lot.

Presuming, you will be receiving the regular rate of 33-35k less tax, that’s a pretty hefty day for a little over $35 US / day.

 

I would also ask, how many grades that is over, ask how many “lesson plans” you would need to write every week. I would always calculated the repeat lessons, and theN factor in the odd once a week to the EP programme, the lesson to a grade one because the Thai teacher was on leave, a club activity and the like. This is all added pressure. 


Btw .. I have never worked at a (government) school that’s hasn’t been prestigious. 
 

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1 minute ago, recom273 said:

35-40 contact hours? 
 

is that the norm these days? Even if that was periods, that’s still seems a lot.

Presuming, you will be receiving the regular rate of 33-35k less tax, that’s a pretty hefty day for a little over $35 US / day.

 

I would also ask, how many grades that is over, ask how many “lesson plans” you would need to write every week. I would always calculated the repeat lessons, and theN factor in the odd once a week to the EP programme, the lesson to a grade one because the Thai teacher was on leave, a club activity and the like. This is all added pressure. 


Btw .. I have never worked at a (government) school that’s hasn’t been prestigious. 
 

they both offered more than 33-35 but yes I felt it was a lot of hours, unless something was lost in translation. I will post the details from both jobs here when I receive them via email.

 

The chinese school paid a fair bit higher, but I also felt like less stability and the fact they were pretty much ready to hire me on a whim after they met me and saw my resume. it felt too quick and maybe too good to be true. I am pretty cynical and try to cover my basis so I don't get burned in situations such as this, but maybe I misjudged it

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40 and 35 is insane!!!!

 

 

  If that's teaching hours where you've got to be physically in a classroom, it will burn you out.

 

  I've got 22 teaching/contact hours, and that's enough for me, including lesson planning, testing, attendance, Bookmark ( a Thai program we have to use for their grades which takes a huge amount of hours!), and plenty of other "extracurricular activities".

 

Preparing students for competitions in your free time is only one of them. 

 

  How could you teach for eight hours a day? That's the number of hours we have to stay at school. 

 

  Please be careful before you sign a contract, it's the worst time now to find a job, I understand.

 

Plenty of jobs will be available starting from March, and the new academic year usually begins in the middle of May. 

 

  

 

   

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13 minutes ago, otherstuff1957 said:

35 - 40 hours on campus is fairly normal.  The real question is how many teaching hours and how many classes/grades and lesson plans will be required?  A normal teaching load is somewhere between 16 and 24 teaching hours per week. 

 

Most Government schools have several classes per grade, so 24 hours could be 4 lessons repeated 6 times, which is quite doable.  Private schools, on the other hand, will often only have 1 or 2 classes per grade, so 24 hours could require planning and teaching 12 different lessons twice a week for grades 1 - 12!

 

 

Social security must be included, even when it's a private school where they're trying to not pay for you. 

 

   If you need to produce 12 lesson plans that can take your whole weekend away.

 

It shouldn't be more than 22 hours actually teaching in class. 

 

P.S. Ask them if you'll teach in air conditioned classrooms.

 

If you have to teach without and might not even have a fan to cool you down, you'll know what hell is like.

 

But if you start as a PE teacher then I understand the workload. You'd have to teach all their classes and often in the hot sun. 

 

  That's something you've gotta find out before you sign anything. Best of luck! 

 

 

  

 

  

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@Isaanbiker thank you for taking the time to help me out, I shot you a quick PM. cheers!

 

thanks again,

 

also thanks to the others who offered some advice and opinions, I appreciate it

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5 hours ago, Nakmuay887 said:

they both offered more than 33-35 but yes I felt it was a lot of hours, unless something was lost in translation. I will post the details from both jobs here when I receive them via email.

 

The chinese school paid a fair bit higher, but I also felt like less stability and the fact they were pretty much ready to hire me on a whim after they met me and saw my resume. it felt too quick and maybe too good to be true. I am pretty cynical and try to cover my basis so I don't get burned in situations such as this, but maybe I misjudged it

If you have a good CV and they think during the interview that it matches with your skills, you can get hired very quickly for a lot of jobs.

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4 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

this would ring alarm bells for me

Not really. But the canteens are usually not known for good food.

 

   We have a huge canteen ( 4,000 + students) , but I always eat out. 

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17 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

If you have a good CV and they think during the interview that it matches with your skills, you can get hired very quickly for a lot of jobs.

yeah that is exactly what happened, 

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51 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:

Not really. But the canteens are usually not known for good food.

 

   We have a huge canteen ( 4,000 + students) , but I always eat out. 

when free meals/accomadation are offered as part of the package, this usually isnt a good thing, regardless of cost

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