chingmai331 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 What is the fascination with the daily or even hourly 'number'? How many tiny particles now in the air near me? Yeah, this is the time of year for bad air in north Thailand, and nearby places. If you have been here before at this time, you know the story. Nothing new about the bad air in April. The solutions, (if your question is: how can i avoid the health consequences of this pollution?) are: 1. protect yourself as best you can, day and night with air machines and masks, and mostly stay inside with the air machine. 2. leave the area for a better place till the air clears. 3. suicide. Since you have no influence in govt decisions, that line of logic won't work. Finally, you are burning yourself up with anger, bitterness and hate towards the smoke and the negative health consequences of those internal emotions may be far worse than 30 days of bad air. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 7 hours ago, chingmai331 said: What is the fascination with the daily or even hourly 'number'? How many tiny particles now in the air near me? Yeah, this is the time of year for bad air in north Thailand, and nearby places. If you have been here before at this time, you know the story. Nothing new about the bad air in April. The solutions, (if your question is: how can i avoid the health consequences of this pollution?) are: 1. protect yourself as best you can, day and night with air machines and masks, and mostly stay inside with the air machine. 2. leave the area for a better place till the air clears. 3. suicide. Since you have no influence in govt decisions, that line of logic won't work. Finally, you are burning yourself up with anger, bitterness and hate towards the smoke and the negative health consequences of those internal emotions may be far worse than 30 days of bad air. click: "bonfire of the vanities" Thank you, Savonarola, this thread really needed a sermon on our ignorance, foolishness, and a lecture on the fundamentals of northern Thai weather. Kind of you to diagnose our feverish dialogues, and answer the question we didn't know we needed to ask ! ~o:37; 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 10 hours ago, chingmai331 said: Finally, you are burning yourself up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 April 13 So much better in Chiang Mai now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HaleySabai Posted April 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2020 Yes it is.....April.14,nicest morning at 31PM2.5 since the last "nice" morning on Jan.24 at 26PM2.5. I'm only referring to the mornings (8am) since the worst no#'s for the day start here. Could be a sign we are finally coming out of it. Which clearing up around Songkran would be consistent with many previous years....BUT not last year,we didn't get relief for another month. Let's hope for some rain! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, HaleySabai said: Yes it is.....April.14,nicest morning at 31PM2.5 since the last "nice" morning on Jan.24 at 26PM2.5. I'm only referring to the mornings (8am) since the worst no#'s for the day start here. Agreed, this morning was the best one in a long time. Could almost see the mountains. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cardinalblue Posted May 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 331.....where do you get 30 days of bad air? Try 5 months of bad air...since Dec 1st CM has had one day under PM 50....that is horrendous an embarrassment...anything above 50 is considered moderate to unhealthy to severe.... people need to first educate themselves rather than making excuses for a far worse health impact on the local population than CV will ever have... its a sad reflection on the gov’s incompetence when rain has to clean up a man made mess...it drops under 50 but 4 consecutive rainless days elevate the PM to anywhere between 80 - 120... and yes, people continue to burn... ignorant stupid selfish poor is me.....they all fit... Edited May 7, 2020 by cardinalblue 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Tea Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, cardinalblue said: 331.....where do you get 30 days of bad air? Try 5 months of bad air...since Dec 1st CM has had one day under PM 50....that is horrendous an embarrassment...anything above 50 is considered moderate to unhealthy to severe.... people need to first educate themselves rather than making excuses for a far worse health impact on the local population than CV will ever have... its a sad reflection on the gov’s incompetence when rain has to clean up a man made mess...it drops under 50 but 4 consecutive rainless days elevate the PM to anywhere between 80 - 120... and yes, people continue to burn... ignorant stupid selfish poor is me.....they all fit... Over 150 last night & this morning in San Kamphaeng. Farmers burning fields. Destroy the economy for covid-19, but ignore the elephant in the room that really kills ???? Edited May 7, 2020 by Yorkshire Tea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Went down to Chom Thong today, rising smoke from fields and apparently in the night lots of fires on and around Doi Inthanon and the smog was visible again after a couple of days of respite. This situation is far more dangerous and will kill many more people that Covid-19 and the only thing the ptb care about is dropping restrictions on the Chinese and Koreans coming back to Thailand. Bloody scandalous! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopy Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 The government has told farmers to plant 3rd week of May to be in time to capture upcoming rains. Thus, by June rains could be sufficient to get green zone quality air in the north (it's yellow/orange zone right now). Decent air quality often green level should then last 4 or 5 months until the rains stop, then air quality will deteriorate rapidly in October as the cycle repeats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, canopy said: The government has told farmers to plant 3rd week of May to be in time to capture upcoming rains. Thus, by June rains could be sufficient to get green zone quality air in the north (it's yellow/orange zone right now). Decent air quality often green level should then last 4 or 5 months until the rains stop, then air quality will deteriorate rapidly in October as the cycle repeats I am delighted to meet an optimist ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Came back from Lamphun way near the 106 /108 ,the fields were on fire all over the place. The crazy thing about it was that had to pass through a police check point (cross province?) with around a dozen officers etc the worst of the burning was literally around the area where the officers were conducting their temp checks etc on drivers and passengers! Around half a dozen substantial fires,impossible to miss! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Thailand said: ... the worst of the burning was literally around the area OK. - But where have you been the last five months? PM2.5 and PM10, It's not the farmers. ******************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Just for reality drop in, a screenshot from Feb 3rd 2020. And it wasn't the worst day up north. Wow. ********** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Yom said: OK. - But where have you been the last five months? PM2.5 and PM10, It's not the farmers. ******************** Do not quote part of my post. It was the fields that were on fire. this was farmland so get you facts straight,I witnessed first hand and quite literally under the noses of the BIB. And not just 5 months here, somewhat longer. This is in addition to the forest fires that are starting again. Covid-19 could not have survived the environment at the checkpoint yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante99 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 19 hours ago, Thailand said: Came back from Lamphun way near the 106 /108 ,the fields were on fire all over the place. The crazy thing about it was that had to pass through a police check point (cross province?) with around a dozen officers etc the worst of the burning was literally around the area where the officers were conducting their temp checks etc on drivers and passengers! Around half a dozen substantial fires,impossible to miss! So what? Did you expect the police to be enforcing laws? Where did you get that idea? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerox Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Here we go again. Foreigners complaining about the pollution in Chiang Mai. Instead of moving out they stay and will start the same complaining cycle again December until May. See you in December. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johng Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, cerox said: Foreigners complaining about the pollution in Chiang Mai Not just foreigners and not just Chaingmai if no one complains then nothing will ever get done about any sort of problem will it ? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Xerox....is air pollution acceptable to you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post orang37 Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/21/2020 at 12:52 PM, johng said: Not just foreigners and not just Chaingmai if no one complains then nothing will ever get done about any sort of problem will it ? If only there were a way to collectivize our deep concern for the air quality into a form that would "make a difference" ! Guess how a public demonstration (as in peaceful protest) by a large group of expats would go down here, given the current political/economic reality. I wonder why Stalin's famous quote comes to mind: "no man, no problem." I believe that many/most Thais care deeply about this problem, and I wish I knew an effective way to support them ! ~o:37; 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cerox Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 Yes, it is acceptable. I tell you why: we are guests here. We have nothing to say. Accept this simple truth. Now Corona shows you more than ever before that we have no rights and for those who are not in Thailand, cannot even return. How is that family/child/marriage/Elite visa working out? Oh, we cannot return, I forgot. We are all simply tourists, no matter what visa we use. For the same reason, foreigners/tourists/guests should not complain. Thais can decide on their own. They decided 2019 that the smoky season lasts much longer now and there is more to burn. Ok, their decision. Their country. They did not ask you or me to move to Chiang Mai. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 17 hours ago, orang37 said: If only there were a way FYI. - Might be a start? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerox Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) please delete; posted in wrong topic Edited May 26, 2020 by cerox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 September 5 Thailand North. There have been 3 months of good and fresh air. Now it returns to yellow and orange. (farmers are burning? - rainy seaon?) AQI 865/Lampang seems to be a mistake or a fake. *********************************************************** 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) The long term effects of the burning will affect many more lives than Covid, including children. The burning now seems to start earlier each year and the authorities do no more than talk the annual talk. Expect more of the same talk and the same inaction and record AQI readings. Edited September 5, 2020 by Thailand 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 15 hours ago, Thailand said: burning now seems to start earlier each year and the authorities do no more than talk the annual talk. This is absolutely correct. 15 hours ago, Thailand said: the burning will affect many more lives than Covid, including children. I think this is correct too. It's a scandal. - Yes or No ? What do you think? ************************* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldfun Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Lets all move out & sink CM & the whole north! Hell lets sink the whole kingdom!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 When I'm checking 'aqicn.org' most of the north seems to be green. But ventusky.com shows a problem (today) in CM and in Bangkok? ******** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza2002 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 AQI getting higher again... over 100 in some places today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Forza2002 Posted October 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2020 https://www.iqair.com/th-en/thailand/chiang-mai https://www.iqair.com/th-en/blog/air-quality/cost-of-air-pollution 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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