webfact Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 No life jackets: Four young Thai men drown after canoe overturns at Kaeng Krachan Picture: Sanook Tragedy struck a group of four young Thai men after their canoe overturned on a trip to the Kaeng Krachan area of Phetchaburi. Police were called on 191 just around 4pm after the men went missing. By 6pm they had all been found dead. They were named as Bunnarit, 20, and Preecha, Thanaphan and Suphakorn all aged 21. Witnesses said the young men had set up camp in the Nam Sap area to celebrate the New Year period. They had gone out without life jackets and their canoe had capsized. An investigation is underway. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-12-31 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 RIP... but...tragedy didn't strike...stupidity did ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 10 hours ago, trainman34014 said: RIP... but...tragedy didn't strike...stupidity did ! I wish that was the stupidest thing I ever did at that age. I was just lucky 100 times that tragedy didn't strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Evidently, they did not realize how "topsey turvey" a canoe is. Four men in a canoe in itself is asking for trouble. Perhaps it was much larger than the typical 16' canoes that I am familiar with. Condolences to family and friends of the 4 wasted lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losername Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 The canoe itself should have buoyancy. Even if they do not have life jackets there should be something for the kids to cling to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saminoz Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 22 hours ago, trainman34014 said: RIP... but...tragedy didn't strike...stupidity did ! Absolutley. Darwin hard at work this holiday period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I find it strange that all four died, odds are at least one would be a strong swimmer if not, why go in a canoe without any buoyancy aides none swimmers are usually afraid of water and would want some form of safety protection one would think....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Geoffggi said: I find it strange that all four died, odds are at least one would be a strong swimmer if not, why go in a canoe without any buoyancy aides none swimmers are usually afraid of water and would want some form of safety protection one would think....... Because they are Thai, in general they don't think something like "what would happen if the canoe overturns", or "what would happen if i have an accident while riding the motorbike". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompelli Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, jackdd said: Because they are Thai, in general they don't think something like "what would happen if the canoe overturns", or "what would happen if i have an accident while riding the motorbike". They do think about it, then go buy the appropriate amulet, job's a good un. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomangosteen Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 The 'canoe' is a sit-on-top, photos from a second Sanook article shows the three on it, plus when it was recovered Article states it sank, looking at the second photo there appears to be repairs on the side, note these sit-on-tops are molded plastic not fibreglass, repairing other than with proper plastic welding, ie using car repair 'bog' are doomed to fail (my guess, see the white repaired area on the orange) And there should be watertight covers on those two open hatches. Death trap on the water. My exp, one this size would have a maximum carrying capacity of up to 140-160kg (appears to be a 'double' or even a children's triple, I'm unfamiliar with what model it is), so in that respect would have stayed afloat ok with the three smallish males aboard, though as pic shows, low in the waterline, and definitely would not sink (article states it sank) unless it was holed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I guess at least 2 couldn't swim. What mind would go on water if they cant swim? Drinking probably involved. Rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomangosteen Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Elkski said: I guess at least 2 couldn't swim. What mind would go on water if they cant swim? Drinking probably involved. Rip Answer here: A survivor, identified as Narongrith Meekhun, 21, told police that he and three other friends were drinking and took a kayak onto the lake. He also said none of them were wearing life vests and had been drinking heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 55 minutes ago, jackdd said: Because they are Thai, in general they don't think something like "what would happen if the canoe overturns", or "what would happen if i have an accident while riding the motorbike". situational awareness, critical thinking. safety is NOT a widespread cultural concept. many very good swimmers would wear a life vest. wet clothes get heavy and why fight to stay afloat and swim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 13 hours ago, neeray said: Evidently, they did not realize how "topsey turvey" a canoe is. Four men in a canoe in itself is asking for trouble. Perhaps it was much larger than the typical 16' canoes that I am familiar with. Irrelevant of what design the canoe was, the water remains the same.... you've got two chances sink or swim, if you can't do the latter wear a life jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losername Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 #gomangosteen - thanks for your post, very informative. My previous post referred to buoyancy in the craft. In my view that should include the ability to float even if holed. Very easy to achieve with something like this. Polystyrene inserted during the production process will achieve this. Very tragic, reminds me of the awful Lyme Bay canoeing tragedy in the UK which involved other failings as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_Bay_canoeing_tragedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorayme Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 11/6/2019 at 3:12 PM, Dnyy said: What's bib? Boys in Brown. The police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Peoples Fund Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Cant swim or not strong swimmer but went out without lifevests? Such a tragedy that could have been avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Amount of water in Thai rivers these days they probably would not have drowned if they had stood up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickey rat Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 T.I.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabarin Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Not being able to swim and then going into a unbalanced canoe with 4 pax... I guess I said enough, RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 What disturbs me is the total lack of respect shown here for the lives of local people. I dare anyone to get on the thread about the Brit that died in the fireworks tragedy and make jokes, call out Darwinism or mention stupidity. These deaths are just as tragic. Families are just as devastated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, impulse said: What disturbs me is the total lack of respect shown here for the lives of local people. I dare anyone to get on the thread about the Brit that died in the fireworks tragedy and make jokes, call out Darwinism or mention stupidity. These deaths are just as tragic. Families are just as devastated. I understand what you are saying, but to be fair, there has been numerous comments in the Brit firework thread about his stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, sanemax said: I understand what you are saying, but to be fair, there has been numerous comments in the Brit firework thread about his stupidity I appreciate your update. I hadn't followed that thread for a couple of hours. Sadly, that doesn't improve my impression of the state of mankind, or more specifically, the kind that often ends up in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, impulse said: I appreciate your update. I hadn't followed that thread for a couple of hours. Sadly, that doesn't improve my impression of the state of mankind, or more specifically, the kind that often ends up in Thailand. I do agree though and was thinking the same myself, had the firework guy been a Thai guy , some peoples responses would have been far less sympathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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