Popular Post webfact Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 Thais told: If your young kid dies after letting them drive - YOU'VE MURDERED THEM! Picture: Thai Rath A road safety expert has pulled no punches after a 12 year old died on New Year's Eve behind the wheel of a pick-up. Phrommin Kanthiya said: "Thai society just doesn't care. There can be no more excuses. "Let your kid drive and he dies. You've murdered them, pure and simple". The stark message came after Withaya Kansaeng killed himself on Tuesday. He had been allowed to drive a pick-up but while coming down a hill in Wangsaphun in Loei he lost control, hit a wall and was thrown out as the vehicle overturned. He died from his injuries. Thai Rath - in a story laced with opinion and warnings - said that under 18s are not permitted to drive. Parents can be fined 2,000 baht for letting their children drive. More severe penalties exist under Article 26 (3) that allows for prison terms of three months and fines up to 30,000 baht. This law is based on negligent behaviour in raising minors. They said that this death should be a wake-up call foir Thai society - people should not just be proud that their kids are "geng" (good at something) and let them drive as a result. Young people are just not equipped with the necessary skills to drive. They quoted the victim's grandfather Khamchai, 60, as saying that Withaya had been driving since he was eight or nine and drove all manner of vehicles. He claimed to have spoken up about it but no one listened to him. The boy's mother also said she had tried to stop him. He even drove a six wheel truck, she said. Both said to the wider Thai public: Don't let young children drive or this will happen to you. But safety expert Phrommin said it best when he described the laissez-faire attitude of Thai society in this regard as being tantamount to Thais murdering their children. Source: Thai Rath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-01-02 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 12 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Another unnecessary tragedy ! R.I.P. 6 minutes ago, webfact said: Young people are just not equipped with the necessary skills to drive. Unless you bring in a stringent driving test, neither are a lot of others on the road here. Edited January 2, 2020 by Thaiwrath 45 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ParkerN Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Laissez-faire sums it up pretty well. It's the expression that springs to mind when I see 8 year-olds driving motorcycles near the village I live in. No licence, no training, no roadcraft, no crash-hat, no clue, no brains. And pretty soon, no life. Enjoy the absence of any police or other law-enforcement, and sooner than you might think, the absence of your son/daughter. Then you can look for someone else to blame like most Thais. A quick trip to the wat and back to normal except for the empty chair at dinner time. Edited January 2, 2020 by ParkerN 62 1 3 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilotman Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 Parents are as dumb as bricks. They let their kids get away with far too much and it breeds the lunatics that we see on the road everyday 53 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wiggy Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, webfact said: Parents can be fined 2,000 baht for letting their children drive. Wow, now that's what I call a severe penalty. Not. Nobody will learn and the carnage will continue. Plain and simple. My sympathy went a long time ago. I just have to hope none of these idiots take me with them when they go. 47 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chazar Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, webfact said: thai society just doesn't care. he got that right, shame many more dont think like this Edited January 2, 2020 by Chazar 15 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 A kid failed by idiots ????Rip 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chazar Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, webfact said: The boy's mother also said she had tried to stop him. He even drove a six wheel truck, she said. So how's he get the keys then Mum? 27 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tarteso Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, webfact said: "Let your kid drive and he dies. You've murdered them, pure and simple". A Pure and simple smart Reflexion. ???? 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post varun Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 Increase the penalty to 200,000 baht. The only form of discipline that Thai's can truly understand is all stick and no carrot. Unfortunately, this will never happen in a million years. Just accept it as a twisted form of population control. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, varun said: Increase the penalty to 200,000 baht. no good unless you can actually get it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post varun Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chazar said: no good unless you can actually get it Yup, especially from the phooyai. The only way this could possibly work is if the judges / law enforcement were given unlimited coercive power to force monetary payment via seizure of assets - house/car, freeze corporate/personal bank accounts etc. As I said, never in a million years. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 Happens all the time, there is a 14 year old near us who the locals pay a couple of hundred Baht to do deliveries in his Dad's old Isuzu pickup (which looks like it shouldn't be anywhere near a road). He's also 'geng maak' behind the wheel, apparently. ???? 8 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chelseafan Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, ParkerN said: Laissez-faire sums it up pretty well. It's the expression that springs to mind when I see 8 year-olds driving motorcycles near the village I live in. No licence, no training, no roadcraft, no crash-hat, no clue, no brains. And pretty soon, no life. Enjoy the absence of any police or other law-enforcement, and sooner than you might think, the absence of your son/daughter. Then you can look for someone else to blame like most Thais. A quick trip to the wat and back to normal except for the empty chair at dinner time. I agree with you but there's no transport to get them to school other than the motorbike. You may well say that it's up to the parents to drive them there but mum and dad are working in the fields at silly-o-clock. I'm actually surprised that there's not more fatalities in the sticks. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 they'll easily sideslip slippery squirm themselves away from a Being Complict to Murder charge - by submitting a belated Theft Vehicle Report... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post starky Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, varun said: Increase the penalty to 200,000 baht. The only form of discipline that Thai's can truly understand is all stick and no carrot. Unfortunately, this will never happen in a million years. Just accept it as a twisted form of population control. Bwaaahahaha make the fine what you want how you think some backwater family from loei pays a 200 000 baht fine. Such a privileged way of looking at things. Foreigners here got such a ridiculous way of looking for things. For a subsistence family on Issan 2000 baht is a lot of money. Thats not the problem genius. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Saint Nick Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 Thai-society fails itself on a daily basis! My empathy get's less and less, every day! Let them all kill each other! I just hope, that non of these geniuses runs me or my family over! 12 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ParkerN Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Chelseafan said: I agree with you but there's no transport to get them to school other than the motorbike. You may well say that it's up to the parents to drive them there but mum and dad are working in the fields at silly-o-clock. I'm actually surprised that there's not more fatalities in the sticks. Well, it's a reasonable excuse and one which might have applied 10 years ago. Now there are 3 or 4 school buses running to each village. The silly-o'clock comment rings true though, but it means the school bus excuse does not apply and a parental neglect accusation does apply. Thais are very close to nature, and some of them in my view, share more in common with the local wildlife than with human brings. Watch the way they behave and see what I mean. Let's call a spade a spade. Many, perhaps most Thais have kids for the following reasons: 1. It's expected by parents and rellies, mainly for the following 'traditional' reasons. 2. They need someone to look after them when they get old because the government they elect doesn't and won't. 3. Biological need. This is the big reason. 4 They need someone to send on errands while they're in the fields getting leptospirosis or brain malfunction from spraying noxious weedkillers because Donald Trump want to keep a few voting/contributing executives rich and the locals know as much about protective clothing as they do about child-rearing. 5 Future sinsod. 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ParkerN Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, starky said: Bwaaahahaha make the fine what you want how you think some backwater family from loei pays a 200 000 baht fine. Such a privileged way of looking at things. Foreigners here got such a ridiculous way of looking for things. For a subsistence family on Issan 2000 baht is a lot of money. Thats not the problem genius. More than enough to buy a 2nd-hand motorbike for their under-age kids to ride though. Apparently. Muddled logic. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 Be fair, the parents here seem to have the all the mental capacity of a 12 year old kid anyway 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tifino Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Saint Nick said: I just hope, that non of these geniuses runs me or my family over! and the problem is that the above is really 'your' problem to worry about, not theirs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fruitman Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, starky said: Bwaaahahaha make the fine what you want how you think some backwater family from loei pays a 200 000 baht fine. Such a privileged way of looking at things. Foreigners here got such a ridiculous way of looking for things. For a subsistence family on Issan 2000 baht is a lot of money. Thats not the problem genius. Right, can you explain to us why they all have iphones and a 800.000 baht pickup truck? 11 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ParkerN Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, SkyNets said: The problem is that most people here are mentally 12 years old That's probably the most incisive and insightful remark I've seen on TV for weeks, and from my perspective there is no odium or inferiority express or implied, Thailand has kept it's Isaan residents poor and stupid for generations. In my view, by malice of forthought rather than by stupidity. Edited January 2, 2020 by ParkerN 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, ParkerN said: That's probably the most incisive and insightful remark I've seen on TV for weeks, and from my perspective there is no odium or inferiority express or implied, Thailand has kept it's Isaan residents poor and stupid for generations. In my view, by malice of forthought rather than by stupidity. And who is thailand in this case? The bangkokians ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, SkyNets said: The problem is that most people here are mentally 12 years old Yea, but how about the Thais letting their kids drive? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, fruitman said: And who is thailand in this case? The bangkokians ? One might think so but for the Bankok population who have moved to BKK from Isaan. I estimate a goodly minority of Isaan folk in BKK so any generlisation based on geography is probably moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, sirineou said: Yea, but how about the Thais letting their kids drive? One think is linked to the other on a cause/effect basis. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, tifino said: and the problem is that the above is really 'your' problem to worry about, not theirs One can pretty quickly make it into their problem, always assuming the injuries are not too extensive. If they are and it was my family, there would be very few additional problems for the miscreant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dcnx Posted January 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: They quoted the victim's grandfather Khamchai, 60, as saying that Withaya had been driving since he was eight or nine and drove all manner of vehicles. He claimed to have spoken up about it but no one listened to him. What else needs to be said? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, dcnx said: What else needs to be said? So Grand-Dad was ignored was he? Thais know best I suppose... but then events would seem to suggest otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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