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It's just something you have to live with here.  Using air purifiers and wearing a mask helps, but not that much.

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1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

It's just something you have to live with here.  Using air purifiers and wearing a mask helps, but not that much.

 

You may have to live with it, if you choose to continue living here.

 

But using a good HEPA air purifier at home and a N95 mask when outside (when the air is bad) can make a major difference, and protect one's health from the seriously bad stuff in the air.

 

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Melbourne Australia is no better at the moment with the smoke haze getting worse as the bush fires rage over 200 km away.

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I grew up in NYC during the years ConEd was burning coal. Could see the huge, belching smokestacks from our apartment. Even in the winter with the windows closed, wiping the windowsills would have a layer of soot. It was said living in the city was like smoking three packs a day. In those days, what did we know about PPM.

 

LA (not Roi Et) suffered horrible car smog. Both those cities fixed the problem at source. Why can't we? (Answer below.)

 

Look: It's NOT the farmers--it's the CARS!!! All the condo construction doesn't help both in terms of dust & blocking any wind to blow the smog away.

 

Both cars & condos are HUGE revenue sources keeping Thai govt in business. The generals are not going to p*ss in the trough.

 

I'm 70. I like it here. Gonna die of something. (No medical insurance!)

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1 hour ago, marquis22 said:

Melbourne Australia is no better at the moment with the smoke haze getting worse as the bush fires rage over 200 km away.

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What was the air quality like prior to the fires ? Here it's pretty much all year round now. 

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31 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

What was the air quality like prior to the fires ? Here it's pretty much all year round now. 

 

Re BKK, it's season, not year round....

 

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Posted (edited)

I think that you need to leave Bangkok and perhaps Thailand if this is an issue for you because the government will do nothing.

 

The problem is so solvable.

 

We will be moving south in 3-5 years or leave the country all together.

 

With such a lack of accountability I imagine Thailand will look like China, India in a few short years. The only refuge will be the far coastal south. Even then a possibility of haze from Indonesia during the year.

 

Wearing a mask is just stupid and people look plague stricken and/or like Bane (idiots). If it's an issue don't be an idiot, move.

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11 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Re BKK, it's season, not year round....

 

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It's all year round now. Even that graphic of one year shows only three moderately acceptable months.

 

It's a city, I can accept bad air but in 2020 this is ridiculous.

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Truly horrible and it just seems to get worse. I, for one, am not unhappy that I'll be spending less time in Bangkok this year.

 

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1 hour ago, Number 6 said:

It's all year round now. Even that graphic of one year shows only three moderately acceptable months.

 

It's a city, I can accept bad air but in 2020 this is ridiculous.

 

The green in the chart is "good" air. The yellow in the chart is "moderate" air.

 

It's not until you get into the orange/unhealthy for sensitive folks and red/plain unhealthy that it should start impacting anyone's habits or lifestyle.

 

The red-orange parts of the year for PM2.5 are really mostly clustered around November to January, sometimes a bit earlier, sometimes a bit later. But most of the rest of the year is reasonable.

 

 

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Huge fires in Australia and the Amazon (the lung of the planet). Mankind is in big trouble. It's not like we have another planet to go to.

 

In Bkk it smells like crop burning plus insecticide to me. This being Thailand, will they ever do something to educate the farmers? Don't hold your breath waiting (pun intended).

 

It comes to the point where it does not matter what immigration do about the visa reg's. TM30 or 90 day reports vanish into insignificance as we are all going to leave to escape the pollution.

 

And who is going to pay millions of Baht for a condo in Bkk when the air is not fit to breathe? I foresee a Chinese Thai in Bkk, with a fist full of money.... but he is dying as the air and water have turned to poison.

 

Take a look at air quality in Da Nang and Nha Trang Vietnam. Coastal cities and islands are the only places left with clean air. Roadrunner is planning to leave Bkk this year.

 

When will man learn?

 

 

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4 hours ago, Number 6 said:

Wearing a mask is just stupid and people look plague stricken and/or like Bane (idiots). If it's an issue don't be an idiot, move.

When breathing is unhealthy it's an issue for us and I'm no idiot. 😉

 

However, we will be wearing masks until we leave mid February. Don't care <deleted> it looks like or what people think. But, I do feel sorry for the ignorant and those with no other option. 

 

 

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14 hours ago, blackcab said:

@Pravda I've pinned this thread. If it receives regular updates it will stay at the top of the forum.

Why not pin this one instead:

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1021518-bangkok-air-pollution/

 

It's a treasure trove of information about Bangkok air pollution and how to protect yourself from it.

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@edwardandtubs Thanks for the suggestion and the link. The main issue is that most people won't read through nearly a hundred pages of posts.

 

I take your point on board, however, so I have edited the original post in this thread to include links to the previous thread for those people that want to refer back to it.

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