webfact Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Sa Kaeo: Brit, 71, living in Thailand killed while making U-Turn on motorcycle Picture: 77kaoded Thai media has reported that a 71 year old British man on a motorcycle died after a collision with a car at a U-turn in Sa Kaeo province on Monday. The man was named as David Denis (surname withheld) who lived nearby with his Thai family. Wang Nam Yen police and foundation rescue staff called to the scene on Route 317 (Sa Kaeo to Chanthaburi Road) found a Toyota Vios smashed into signage. Some way away was a white Honda motorcycle on its side. There were bloodstains on the road. 77kaoded said that the victim was making a U-turn when he was clipped. CPR was given at the scene and the man was taken to hospital but died thereafter. An autopsy has been ordered and the British Embassy has been informed. An investigation is underway. The accident happened at the Wat Wang Daeng U-turn. A funeral is expected to be held locally. Source: 77kaoded -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-01-08 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAFETY FIRST Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 Geeze, these news bulletins are becoming a monthly thing Elderly foreigner killed while making a U-Turn I have some elderly friends that ride, it surprises me how competent they are on the roads at their age. Saying that Id say there are around 1 to 2 percent of the elderly that can do this, ride competently on Thai roads. The rest of you elderly for the sake of your family and friends dont ride a motorbike on Thai roads, it a very selfish thing to do for all involved when your riding skills are lacking and a death happens. There are many people that suffer, family, friends and 3rd party involved in the accident. 6 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 hours ago, webfact said: 77kaoded said that the victim was making a U-turn when he was clipped. From behind or left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wiggy Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 53 minutes ago, Vacuum said: From behind or left? Could be from behind, left, right, above, or below in this country. 11 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 A U-turn is one of the most dangerous manoeuvres but I've seen farang do it without looking both ways 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Michael Hare Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 I agree about the elderly driving on motorbikes on Thai roads. My 72 year old friend even has difficulty walking and when he drives his motorbike he wobbles all over the place. Last year, a dog ran out between parked cars and he hit the dog and ended up on the concrete road with cuts and bruises. He was lucky. Next time maybe not. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jane Dough Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 I'd put more trust in an experienced 70 year old motorcyclist than an 18 year old. Rooster 43 1 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post legend49 Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 33 minutes ago, Wiggy said: Could be from behind, left, right, above, or below in this country. Doesnt matter , other party was not competent and the farang pays the price. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Death-turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SymS Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 U-turns are super dangerous. Roundabouts are much safer, but I understand it's not always possible, and there are associated costs with updating the infrastructure. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 Skill and awareness matter alot. You have to drive here with eyes in all directions and as if your life truly depended upon your care and ability to be very conscious at all times. Yet even then, you have alot of other drivers with very little skill and exercising very little caution. Driving anything here is very dangerous. Be aware of that at all times. 16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wiggy Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, legend49 said: Doesnt matter , other party was not competent and the farang pays the price. Possibly, but how do we know it wasn't the Brit's fault? He may have pulled across in front of the car to do the u-turn and got clipped on the right hand side. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post natway09 Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 Motorcycles in Thailand. Not for me. Right or wrong the poor fella is dead. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post john terry1001 Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, SymS said: U-turns are super dangerous. Roundabouts are much safer, but I understand it's not always possible, and there are associated costs with updating the infrastructure. Almost all Thais don't understand how to use roundabouts, they just treat them as crossroads. The carnage would multiply massively if u-turns were replaced by them. There are 2-3 in the Chonburi area. Just come and watch for a mere ten minutes if you don't believe me. And they are being used by people who know they are there. Edited January 8, 2020 by john terry1001 11 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Badrabbit Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 I was hit on a U turn at night by a speeding motorbike going over 80kph(I was on my motorbike, I'm very lucky to be alive, I had a smashed shoulder and road rash down my left side including a hole in my ankle, he had no injuries! I never use U turns now. I had to pay for his bike and him being off work, apparently as he was travelling straight it was my fault for u turning. 2 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I generally do not go for the whole "RIP" thing ... but have to say, this made me quite sad for him and his family. He was "living the dream" and clearly active in life. Sorry to see this ... accidents happen ... and life goes on ... but taking a moment to say "Best of luck on the next go round Mate" .. yeah ... I am ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbri Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I'm 77 and NEVER get on a motorbike, not even a taxi. I'll walk first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropposurfer Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 Poor bloke. RIP. Sad for his missus and family too. Says he was "clipped" ? ... looking at the bike there is appears no substantial damage to it. Makes me think the impact was slight, yet enough to bring him off. Was he wearing a good helmet I wonder? ... if not was his mortal injury from his head hitting the road? If so then his death may well have been avoidable. Any falangs reading this who don't wear helmets, or ride with <deleted> ones, or any sort that don't fit properly, or no chin strap properly adjusted then you pay the risk price of being in the inevitable lottery to pay the ultimate price. It's not cool, not smart, not freedom, not cost effective to ride a bike in any country (let alone this one!) without a very good helmet. Wake up all you folks who don't wear one and go get one (unless of course you have a latent death wish, caring so little about yourself that you ride without). I wear and $400 full-face AGV because I can afford no less to take care of my fragile brain. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: A U-turn is one of the most dangerous manoeuvres but I've seen farang do it without looking both ways Or even this way... cover all angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnc99 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 U-turns are very dangerous here. Usually just getting into the right lane on a small motorcycle can be difficult, then having to wait for an opening to be even able to u-turn can take ages. I've seen some people u-turn thinking the coast is clear then out of nowhere one of those black smoke pickup trucks doing 150+ smashes into them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Jane Dough said: I'd put more trust in an experienced 70 year old motorcyclist than an 18 year old. Rooster Compare an 18 yo cyclist knowing and learned the rules with an old experienced but never got driving lessons nor knowing any rules??? Rediculous. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VBF Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, SymS said: U-turns are super dangerous. Roundabouts are much safer, but I understand it's not always possible, and there are associated costs with updating the infrastructure. I tend to agree except have you seen how most Thai drivers behave at roundabouts? I presume they're either not taught or just don't care but their already minimal lane discipline seems to completely vanish and they appear to either just keep going or stop and panic! Give way to the right? Fat chance! ???? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AhFarangJa Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, john terry1001 said: Almost all Thais don't understand how to use roundabouts, they just treat them as crossroads. The carnage would multiply massively if u-turns were replaced by them. There are 2-3 in the Chonburi area. Just come and watch for a mere ten minutes if you don't believe me. And they are being used by people who know they are there. Same in Hua Hin on Soi 88, I promise you have never seen such a clusterf*** in all your life. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesinnz Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: A U-turn is one of the most dangerous manoeuvres but I've seen farang do it without looking both ways In any country, a U turn is dangerous... even in NZ, Police have been involved in serious road accidents doing U turns, avoid them at all cost, pull off and then join the road again so you can easily see both ways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post digger70 Posted January 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, SymS said: U-turns are super dangerous. Roundabouts are much safer, but I understand it's not always possible, and there are associated costs with updating the infrastructure. Roundabouts are Safer IF people know how to Use them. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, digger70 said: Roundabouts are Safer IF people know how to Use them. Agree Digger and your comment sits well with your signature! Sometimes people do try and STILL don't know! ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sletraveler Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Wiggy said: Possibly, but how do we know it wasn't the Brit's fault? He may have pulled across in front of the car to do the u-turn and got clipped on the right hand side. Yes! But making inane comments about things they know nothing about is how many spend their lonesome days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Look - it's a motor bike!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Jane Dough said: I'd put more trust in an experienced 70 year old motorcyclist than an 18 year old. Rooster At 18 I'd been riding for 7 years, joined Jim Aireys motorcycle club at 12. Thai roads are a different animal, the road rules are not the same, the Thai riders attitude are fearless, no regard for safety. You got to have your witts about you. As you get older decision making is a lot slower. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: A U-turn is one of the most dangerous manoeuvres but I've seen farang do it without looking both ways And Thais do? I too have seen "ting tong farangs" on motor bikes, but by far the biggest offenders (and OK there are more Thais on the road!) are the young teenagers on the souped up "bees on wheels" that drive recklessly at high speed without a thought for themselves or other road users - and often at night with no lights, so how can they be "looking both ways"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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