Popular Post Longcut Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 7:57 AM, Chomper Higgot said: Keep in mind this is Trump’s first impeachment. Congress are still actively seeking access to evidence and witnesses that may well lead to a second impeachment. After this fiasco, (Fiasco definition is - a complete failure.) I don't see the Democrats attempting to do this again. I would be willing to bet they wish they never got into this one. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 39 minutes ago, Longcut said: But, he will be cleared by enough to win re-election. Do you want to know the truth? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 38 minutes ago, Longcut said: After this fiasco, (Fiasco definition is - a complete failure.) I don't see the Democrats attempting to do this again. I would be willing to bet they wish they never got into this one. You never know with Trump ability to stumble into controversy. That’s the nature of the man stupidity and arrogance. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nyezhov Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: That’s the nature of the man stupidity and arrogance. Would you consider the act of impeachment to be stupid and arrogant? Or either? Does arrogance preclude effectiveness as a Chief Executive (LBJ, Obama)? In fact, is not arrogance an essential part of the political climber? How do you measure the intelligence of a President? Book learning? Street political instincts? Can you be a personal paranoid scumbag (Nixon), a felonius sexual predator (Clinton) in bed with the mob (JFK, FDR, HST) or a rascist authoritarian (WTW) and still be an effective and consequentional President? Compared to a paragon of virtue like Carter? Again, the constant name calling without questioning ones beliefs. The conviction of righteousness leads to unseeing fanaticism. I wish it wasnt so polluted today, I feel like schmoozing somewhere. O well. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricohoc Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Longcut said: After this fiasco, (Fiasco definition is - a complete failure.) I don't see the Democrats attempting to do this again. I would be willing to bet they wish they never got into this one. I believe you're correct regarding 2020, but there's always an outside chance that the complicit media and Dems can fabricate something even more grand than before. When Trump is re-elected, Democrats will attempt to fabricate something new. I only predict this because Democrats have begun to realize that all of their focus on mean Trump orange man bad has gotten them nowhere. While Dems put all their energy into telling us how crazy, incompetent, mean, crude, rude and racist Trump is, the "America First" agenda marches on with positive results on many levels. Democrats are also starting to realize the impact of Trump's efforts in the courts with Originalist judges. The Circuit courts are beginning to be composed of more balance, and in some cases, the Originalist judges have already surpassed the number of activists appointed by Democrat presidents. Democrats are no longer able to go "judge shopping" in their efforts to legislate from the bench. The biggest judicial concerns of all will be the anticipated SCOTUS appointments, and there could be as many as two in the next 5 years. Those appointments could swing the SCOTUS to 6-3 or 7-2 in favor of Originalists. Every media "bombshell" and event of walls closing in and the beginning of the end for Trump has been a backfire on Democrats, walls collapsing around Democrats, and the beginning of the end for Democrats in the House in 2020. All of the predicted economic crashes did not happen. All of the predicted WWs 3, 4 and 5 haven't happened. Yes, Democrats won the House in 2018 by a slim margin through Democrats claiming to be moderate and willing to work with Trump to help America. Those moderate Dems did just the opposite -- under orders from Nancy. Many of those moderates can see into the future as a result of their town hall meetings during the Christmas recess. With Trump on the ballot in 2020, it is far more likely that many Americans in those purple districts that voted for Dem moderates, will vote straight ticket Republican after the impeachment fiasco. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 10:30 PM, Sujo said: No. The congress investigates and charges. It was not a trial. Very easy for trump to have this finished since day 1. Allow his witnesses to the perfect call give evidence. Ask yourself why he does not want direct witnesses to testify and clear him. Perhaps to drive the Dems crazy. Seems to be working. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Sujo said: Do you want to know the truth? Who's truth? I suspect the "truth" Dems will accept is not what the GOP will accept. Far as I can see, the anti Trumpers have determined that he is guilty, even if nothing so far has been found that would warrant a conviction. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 10:32 PM, Sujo said: So you must be happy and want this to proceed for a long time. Been going for 3 years now. So long as Trump is president, IMO it's never going to stop. 5 more years of it 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 1:57 PM, Chomper Higgot said: Keep in mind this is Trump’s first impeachment. Congress are still actively seeking access to evidence and witnesses that may well lead to a second impeachment. Those in the Washington bubble may think that a good idea, but I'll warrant the voters may have a different opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Ricohoc said: Yes, Democrats won the House in 2018 by a slim margin through Democrats claiming to be moderate and willing to work with Trump to help America. Those moderate Dems did just the opposite -- under orders from Nancy. Many of those moderates can see into the future as a result of their town hall meetings during the Christmas recess. With Trump on the ballot in 2020, it is far more likely that many Americans in those purple districts that voted for Dem moderates, will vote straight ticket Republican after the impeachment fiasco. It is to laugh. Democrats won House midterms by largest margin since Watergate scandal, report says https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/21/democrats-won-house-midterms-largest-margin-since-watergate/2084052002/ The One Issue That’s Really Driving the Midterm Elections Ask voters what they care about, and they’re very clear. Here’s an amazing political statistic: In 2016, the Affordable Care Act came up in just 10 percent of pro-Democrat campaign advertisements and 16 percent of pro-Republican ones. This year, it came up in more than half of Democratic ads and nearly a third of those for Republicans. Those numbers, which come from the Wesleyan Media Project, help demonstrate the way the law’s politics have gone topsy-turvy and its political sway has grown since President Donald Trump came into office. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/11/healthcare-midterm-elections-trump/574780/ Congressional Retirement Tracker 2020: House Republicans Head for the Exits House Republican retirements are continuing to pile up, a sign many members aren’t enjoying their time in the minority and don’t think they’ll return to power any time soon. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/j5yp37/republican-greg-walden-quits-congressional-retirement-tracker-for-2020 https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=irpromo 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Who's truth? I suspect the "truth" Dems will accept is not what the GOP will accept. Far as I can see, the anti Trumpers have determined that he is guilty, even if nothing so far has been found that would warrant a conviction. It doesnt matter qho will or wont accept it. If you wont call witnesses you are hiding the truth. The public deserves to know. I also see hannity has threatened to release the phone numbers of any senator that calls for witnesses. Repubs are very afraid and the public deserves to know why. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Those in the Washington bubble may think that a good idea, but I'll warrant the voters may have a different opinion. Why would it matter what you think voters will do. What matters is they do their constitutional duty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Perhaps to drive the Dems crazy. Seems to be working. Sso you are happy he is wasting taxpayers money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, Sujo said: Sso you are happy he is wasting taxpayers money. LOL. The Dems been wasting soooooo much taxpayers money on Trump witch hunts for past 3 years, and you are worried about a bit more. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: LOL. The Dems been wasting soooooo much taxpayers money on Trump witch hunts for past 3 years, and you are worried about a bit more. No. Trump has obstructed for 3 years. He is the cause of the waste. All he had to do was allow witnesses and provide documents that prove his perfect call. The dems have wasted nothing. They are obliged to do their constitutional duty. As are the senate who will swear an oath to be fair and impartial. What are you afraid of. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nyezhov said: Dont tell me that you have the "truth" when all you are doing is offering the same old same old. Same old spin - you must takes lessons from Giuliani. Ain't me, but reporting on trumps repeated lies, misinformation and decisions contrary to the Rule of Law that should bring him down - so long as the republicans in the Senate grow some. However, pence would possibly be even worse, that's why I personally disagree with the impeachment process. IMO hold back and concentrate on the 11/20 elections. it's quite possible trump's criminality will never get an airing in the Courts as he is now 73 & will for sure use every tactic possible to delay proceeding as its his M.O. Edited January 12, 2020 by simple1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post i84teen Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 1:55 AM, simple1 said: trump was well short of a majority of voters. trump does not have a remit to reshape the Courts for years to along ultra conservative partisan lines. trump is unfit to represent the Office of the President of the USA Lol...Trump is exactly what more countries need, including yours. 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, i84teen said: Lol...Trump is exactly what more countries need, including yours. You can have him. Rest of the world just doesn’t like him. Got add most world leaders laugh at his stupidity. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/08/trump-mostly-earned-disapproval-from-33-nations-survey 4 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, bristolboy said: It is to laugh. Democrats won House midterms by largest margin since Watergate scandal, report says https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/21/democrats-won-house-midterms-largest-margin-since-watergate/2084052002/ The One Issue That’s Really Driving the Midterm Elections Ask voters what they care about, and they’re very clear. Here’s an amazing political statistic: In 2016, the Affordable Care Act came up in just 10 percent of pro-Democrat campaign advertisements and 16 percent of pro-Republican ones. This year, it came up in more than half of Democratic ads and nearly a third of those for Republicans. Those numbers, which come from the Wesleyan Media Project, help demonstrate the way the law’s politics have gone topsy-turvy and its political sway has grown since President Donald Trump came into office. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/11/healthcare-midterm-elections-trump/574780/ Congressional Retirement Tracker 2020: House Republicans Head for the Exits House Republican retirements are continuing to pile up, a sign many members aren’t enjoying their time in the minority and don’t think they’ll return to power any time soon. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/j5yp37/republican-greg-walden-quits-congressional-retirement-tracker-for-2020 https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=irpromo Thanks for the facts reflecting just the opposit of was just said. Some keep repeating oping the lie becomes truth. Nancy's Hosue will soon gain many more seat than the majority they have, facts back up this assertion. Not empty repetition which is all they have. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) Another trump lie. Will bring troops home but is doing everything he can to keep them in iraq. Threatening to freeze irq bank accounts if they force US out. Hey trump, doesnt a country have a right to decide who it wants in its country? https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/us-to-iraq-kick-out-our-military-and-we-will-seize-your-central-bank-account-20200111 On top of that lie. He has stated only 2% of asylum seekers show up for court. Fact, 99% showed up. https://www.vox.com/2020/1/10/21059924/trump-asylum-seekers-show-up-court-hearing Edited January 12, 2020 by Sujo 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post earlinclaifornia Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, simple1 said: Same old spin - you must takes lessons from Giuliani. Ain't me, but reporting on trumps repeated lies, misinformation and decisions contrary to the Rule of Law that should bring him down - so long as the republicans in the Senate grow some. However, pence would possibly be even worse, that's why I personally disagree with the impeachment process. IMO hold back and concentrate on the 11/20 elections. it's quite possible trump's criminality will never get an airing in the Courts as he is now 73 & will for sure use every tactic possible to delay proceeding as its his M.O. Good point. I only want the supporters to admit theymade a mistake. It is not Right VS Left that matters. America has a history of forgiveness when you admit you made a mistake 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nyezhov Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: I only want the supporters to admit theymade a mistake. mistake about what? 8 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: America has a history of forgiveness when you admit you made a mistake who is gonna do the forgiving? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, i84teen said: Lol...Trump is exactly what more countries need, including yours. What, more leaders that think they can do anything they want? Putin, rocketman, duterte, xi. The fab 4. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2020 21 hours ago, Sujo said: What are you afraid of. The whole anti Trump scenario depends on him having done something that rises to the level of a high crime or misdemeanor, AS DETERMINED BY THE SENATE MAJORITY. So far IMO nothing is other than politics as usual. Nothing to fear. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post WalkingOrders Posted January 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2020 McConnell, has gotta be laughing his ass off, especially, if the whole witness can of worms gets opened. The best thing that can happen for Democrats is this ends quickly next week. The Leftist scumbag game is over! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 6 hours ago, WalkingOrders said: McConnell, has gotta be laughing his ass off, especially, if the whole witness can of worms gets opened. The best thing that can happen for Democrats is this ends quickly next week. The Leftist scumbag game is over! The Orwellian processes of trump and his supporters is truly mind boggling. How anyone can keep on supporting trump I do not know. Nearly everyday trump or his sycophants are tweeting or using talking points which are destructive for a free and open society. A recent example... https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/donald-trump-pelosi-schumer/index.html 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2020 14 hours ago, simple1 said: The Orwellian processes of trump and his supporters is truly mind boggling. How anyone can keep on supporting trump I do not know. Nearly everyday trump or his sycophants are tweeting or using talking points which are destructive for a free and open society. A recent example... https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/donald-trump-pelosi-schumer/index.html I guess that is as strange to you as anyone supporting the current lot of Dems is to me. I supported Trump only because the alternative was so unacceptable, and that situation still stands today. Bernie has had his day in the sun, and his heart attack rules him out for me, so that leaves............................. absolutely no Dem contender I'd vote for at present. BTW, I'm not in favour of either party, each is as bad as the other, IMO. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: I guess that is as strange to you as anyone supporting the current lot of Dems is to me. I supported Trump only because the alternative was so unacceptable, and that situation still stands today. Bernie has had his day in the sun, and his heart attack rules him out for me, so that leaves............................. absolutely no Dem contender I'd vote for at present. BTW, I'm not in favour of either party, each is as bad as the other, IMO. I would be interested to see links that show senior Dem representatives have stooped as low as trump in his personal attacks 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, simple1 said: I would be interested to see links that show senior Dem representatives have stooped as low as trump in his personal attacks + 1 plus I want to see TBL produce evidence of Dem lying as much as Trump or having world leaders laughing at his POTUS. He back the wrong horse but too proud to admit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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